So I’ve been bulking or recomping basically since January. I was really sick with kidney crap from autoimmune crap in December and lost a bunch of weight and strength. I went down to 90 lbs now my kidneys are better after a medication and a few treatments while I was in the hospital for three weeks.
I’m up 12-14lbs to about 102-104 and some how I look way leaner.
I’m thinking I was holding water because my kidneys were only working at about 40-50% of what they normally would. Lupus sucks. Flare or what ever is over and I think I have been able to gain muscle but with the weight gain it’s interesting my bf looks like it has gone down? I’m on 2300 cals a day 120 G protein minimum and 60 g of fat
I’m thinking I’m around 12%?
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05-20-2021, 07:56 AM #9241
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05-21-2021, 04:04 AM #9242
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05-21-2021, 08:42 AM #9243
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05-21-2021, 08:52 AM #9244
Can you give me an estimate? Picture is in bodyspace.
Current weight 180 pounds, height 6.
Im trying only to get ripped and as fast/best possible. Have upto 3-4 hours a day now for gym and or excercise. Never been actually "ripped", thats why i want it now as a primary objective because been trying to get there for years but now I actually have the dedication to go through.
Thanks
Edit: if this shows my age as 51 its actually 35, i made an error and fixing it.
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05-21-2021, 12:14 PM #9245
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05-21-2021, 01:11 PM #9246
You've lost some weight man! Some loose skin makes it hard to tell. Legs look great and seeing some vascularity in the arms. I'm no expert and I tend to estimate higher than others but I'm going to say 16-18%. It might be lower but skin is hiding it.
Either way, you have been working at it! Keep it up.
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05-26-2021, 04:48 PM #9256
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05-26-2021, 05:23 PM #9257
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05-26-2021, 08:31 PM #9258
That's a big kettle of worms to open up. Depends on how you want to look. If you want to be leaner, you're going to have to move more or eat less.
If you're just starting, one might say you should be able to still build some muscle while in a slight deficit. You'll build more muscle bulking but you'll get fatter.
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05-27-2021, 02:43 AM #9259
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05-28-2021, 06:14 PM #9264
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05-28-2021, 06:34 PM #9265
Thanks for your thoughts. Fun fact: I actually have gained strength not lost it during this cut. Though I know muscle is impossible not to lose in a cut. So go figure that pickle.
Once I lose another 4 lbs I'm going to do a full body composition analysis. It kind of boggles my mind that even though I look better than my last check-in and have lost more visible fat, the bf estimate I hear hasn't changed. I'm really curious to see how the proof matches the pudding.
I know of course everyone means well, but to me 20-22 seems high when I see that range on pics like attached. I probably sound like a broken record, but I'd have guessed 18-19 by now.
In any event, as small as I am now- how far away can I really be from 15-16 percent? Maybe my pics seem like I'm bigger or wider but I'm a small stature dude with a thin bone frame.Last edited by brianadelstein; 05-28-2021 at 06:57 PM.
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05-28-2021, 08:40 PM #9266
I have the opinion you can gain muscle and certainly strength in a cut depending on the deficit and bf%; though some might not agree, it's not impossible.
It's possible you are lower than 20%. Remember, I am going off of one picture. No side pose, no relaxed new pose. No back pose, no legs pose.
Gotta give me a +/- 1-2% estimate minimum here.
However, based on the one photo you sent, I'm not seeing sub-20% definition. Maybe someone else has an opinion.
Good work regardless.
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05-28-2021, 09:31 PM #9267
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05-28-2021, 09:34 PM #9268
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One big issue with the picture of him is that he’s stretching upward and not flexing his abs…
I agree with your assessment based on the pose he’s taking… I don’t see sub 20% based on that.
However, sometimes when people suck in, they lose all an definition because their insertions are shallow
I’d want to see him crunch his abs in and not stretch them out, or at least tense them slightly"When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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05-29-2021, 04:08 AM #9269
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05-29-2021, 04:25 AM #9270
You can gain muscle in a cut, plenty of studies show considerable body recomposition in a calorie deficit. It’s going to be easier the higher your BF is, the less training experience you have and the smaller the calorie deficit is.
I am not sure the «body composition analysis» will be any more precise than the estimates from people here...
I still think you should go all out for gaining mass instead of cutting further. You don’t need to eat in a surplus for that, maintenance is enough for many people.The first principle is that you must not fool yourself—and you are the easiest person to fool.
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