http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16
fat loss forum, make a thread in there
telling us what you eat is arbitrary, you could be eating 5kg chicken breasts and half a gram of spinach and call it chicken and spinach
figure out what macros youre eating (carbs/protein/fat) and post that instead. also weigh your food if you arent already. its *very* easy to over/underestimate how much youre eating
read this thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=129523333
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13
nutrition forum, very important info in most of the stickies there. covers how to calculate macros, how many calories you expend daily (roughly), what you should be eating and lots more good stuff
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02-08-2017, 01:54 PM #301
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Yeah I tend to notice the winging from day to day but I've been paying it attention recently too. It is quite obvious though
I'll start stretching my chest (any specific recommendations?) and training my serratus anterior/lower traps more and let you know of any noticeable differences
What ROM is lost during bench press?
Also out of curiosity can you elaborate on the shin splints comment about muscle "floating"
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02-08-2017, 03:50 PM #303
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wait..you mean that someone lied to me and said a BS = PhD? God damnit guys...just cant win
It sounds like you have a biomechanical issue that limits your ROM in your ankle. There are a chit ton of bones in the ankle and its hard to pin point where the actual issue may be.
IT band issues usually stem from the knee and sometimes the hip, but its definitely not outside the realm of coming from the ankle. To work on the IT band, you dont need to directly attack it because its a fibrous/tendinous structure where muscles insert. What you'll want to do is stretch out your TFL (tensor fascia latae, which is just above your femur next to the illac crest; the most forward part of your ilium). What you'll do is lay on your side. take your top leg (which ever one is in the air) and plant that foot in front of your knee (of the leg that is on the ground; this is to keep your bottom leg from moving forward). Next, take the bottom leg and stretch it back until you feel your quad stretching.
Do you have a leg length discrepancy? they arent that common, but do occur. if nt, then you may need to have your hips adjusted by a chiro so that they are even and track correctly. lay face down and bend your knees where the pads of your feet are aiming at the ceiling. If you have a mip misalignment, then one foot wills tick up a bit higher making it seem like one leg is longer. Other than that, i'm really nto that sure what to tell you
We learned ~80 muscles (origin, insertion, action, innervation, palpation adn antagonist) in undergrad, and nearly doubled that in grad PLUS getting waaaayyyy down ontot he cellular level. mTor synthesis, pyruvate conversions....
VO2 Max is the maximum amount of oxygen uptake by your body. The better cardio vascular shape you are in, the higher your VO2 max. Lactate threshold is the point where lactic acid production increases exponentially. Lactic Acid is a nitrogenous waste produced when muscles operate at high levels and causes soem of "the burn" in the muscles. similarly to VO2 Max, the better CV shape you are in, the better lactate threshold will be
Well, ROM isnt really lost in heavy lifts or times of getting winded, its more along the lines of form goes out the window and ROM can go with it. Ideally, you want to take up to 3 seconds for eccentric phase, and 1.5 sec for concentric. On BP, people tend to bounce the weight which strains the rotator cuff muscles and may not even raise the weight to max height
Shin splints is literally where the tibaialis anterior becomes inflamed and tries to pull away from the tibia. It can be cause by a few different issues like flat feet, uneven heel strikes/mid stances and knee tracking issues.
"Floating" isnt an official term because it implies that a muscle contracts in a different way, which they do not. "winging" is just what the motion associated with a weak serratus anterior is called because the scapulas will flutter out a bit like wings“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.” - The Nameless City by HP Lovecraft
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The point in the run at which you feel the burn will get later and later. Unless you're talking about burn while lifting being effected by running in which case I'm not qualified to answer and I'll leave that to op
Interestingly, there are a few cases where people are extremely efficient at clearing lactate and it essentially allows them to run or swim forever providing they have the energy via food
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"The higher the prevalence of infectious diseases the higher the probability of totalitarian political attitudes."
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"The search for a moral equivalent of war continues to define American Liberalism to this day."
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02-08-2017, 08:13 PM #307
Yeah, not even close...With a BS, you just scratch the surface. The depth of information is entirely different. You can learn alot with internships and mentorships but a MS and PhD are on a whole different level which most don't realize until they experience it firsthand.
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02-09-2017, 03:47 AM #308
I'm not 100% sure but my right leg in general is much much more weaker than my left one + ankle flexion is much worse on my right leg as well. Today as I was doing leg press I barely got 6 reps with my right leg and my left leg felt like I could've got at least 10 and it just sucks bad. Should I just continue doing leg press and ending my sets when my right leg gives up although my left leg could keep on going?
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im gonna chime in here with my own thoughts. im sure tank will give a much more detailed answer though
it's much better for triceps than regular BP, not necessarily going to be as good as isolation exercises
you should not be bringing the bar up that high, the bar should touch your chest fairly low down. in fact im not quite sure how you can comfortably bring the bar down to your high chest with a close grip
here is a video showing solid form
https://www.muscleandstrength.com/ex...nch-press.html
it's not an exercise you're going to get the craziest pump from either IME
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02-09-2017, 08:01 PM #313
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B.S., for me, was much more practical and grad level was more theoretical (if you get what i mean, cellular level knowledge...almost completely abstract). Internships and mentorships basically cement your B.S. knowledge
when one leg or arm is weaker, try unilateral work to really focus. Have you ever injured your back with an nerve injury? I ruptured my L5/s1 in 2012 and my left leg has been the same. Ive been out of the gym for a year and my left leg atrophied by almost an inch and was ultimately what got me back into the gym. If one side isnt close to equal (its natural to have one leg or arm bigger/weaker/stronger. The jury is somewhat out on why that is though). Measure your quads and calves. to measure your quad, find half way measurement between where your femur bends at the hip and the superior aspect of the patella, divide it by 2, then measure circuference, unless this isnt the thickest part of your quad, then measure that. do the same with your calves, expcept pick the half way point between the bend in your ankle and the inferior aspect of the patella, divide by 2 and measure girth there, unless the tthickest part is in a different position. This can give you an idea if its undertraining or a nervous system issue
MikeWines, jalundah and Ausaric are very good miscers to ask questions. we'll mostly agree, but they usually have a slightly different view
Close grip bench isnt all that effective for me. I prefer cobras. where you lay face down ont eh ground, and do a partial push up, but only as far as just raising your stomach off the ground. if your hips come up, then youve done too much. Close grip bench is pretty straight forward. The Majority of motion should be in your elbows with some at your shoudler, so that could be an issue. Dont lower the weight over your face. this can cause some elbow pain because its a bastardized version of skull crushers. If you REALLY want a tricep pump, then do tricep kick backs, but finish with your palms up, just do it slowly and controlled. Finsihing with your palm up REALLy activiates your medial heads
Well, it is a start. If you have several years of successfuly trianing under your belt, or worked with really talented trainers, then i think its ok. for some, its a great stepping stone to tech what they love, like me. Ive had 4 PT certs in addition to my degree and internships so i dont need them, but if i had the money, i'd have 10 PT certs. You can never stop learning. Its similar to medial school. If youve been out of med school for +5 years, a significant portion of your medial knowledge is probably obselete.
Ex: Behind the head OHP - Slow and controlled is walking a fine line becaus eof your RC muscles but try to amp up the intensity and you'll be dealing with nagging shoulder pain at the least
Tricep kick backs (finishing with palms up gives me a berserker pump. Triceps make up 2/3 or your brachium and have a HUGE potential that eclipses the upper limit for biceps“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.” - The Nameless City by HP Lovecraft
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02-10-2017, 06:31 PM #316
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02-11-2017, 06:38 AM #318
take NSAIDs, do some light activity. honestly wouldn't bother stretching, it won't improve recovery or reduce DOMS, if anything it'll impede recovery.
you goofed but honestly you'll probably be okay. your performance in the 10k will be limited by physiological factors that won't necessarily be hindered to any significant degree by sore legs from a lifting session. all its gonna do is test your tolerance to pain lol.
as long as you didnt do balls to the wall whatever it takes goddammit 8 hour legs workout, your performance won't be hindered that much.
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02-11-2017, 12:47 PM #319
Ice is probably the worst suggestion, that will only delay healing time even further by slowing lymphatic flow and promoting vasoconstriction. The goal is not to slow fluid shifts, it is to enhance it. Heat, compression, sauna, active recovery, and non weight bearing activities to stimulate blood flow (biking, rowing, etc. - Marc Pro or Norma Tec if you really want to get fancy).
DO NOT use NSAIDs, you'll just be shooting yourself in the foot.B.S. Exercise Science
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02-11-2017, 10:50 PM #320
how so?
NSAIDS are counterproductive in the long run as a recovery tool, but in the short term its likely the pros outweigh the cons in terms of pain relief and reduction in inflammation.
yeah it will screw with the inflammatory response slightly, but honestly that's going to be negligible if he does it just this once. the pain relief will be worth it.
need to look at the big picture, which is to maximize performance for the event. the net effect of a single dose of NSAIDs over the course of 1 day is going to amount to an extremely minute negative physiological effect but will yield a noticeable decrease in pain during the event.
definitely debatable, thats just my opinion.
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02-12-2017, 02:56 PM #323
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02-12-2017, 04:48 PM #324
Regarding incorporating low rep / high rep variations. I often do supersets and dropsets so does that cover both low and high rep? Normal sets I'm 6-10 range so that covers lower rep and then with supers or drops its after failure with lower reps on first set (4-6) then the super and drop obviously brigs total reps to 12 +
Is that sufficient or should I do days of 12 - 15 rep ranges with the same weight on same exercise on most sets? Fanks in advance
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As long as you are increasing the demand on the body then you should be fine. You dont need to swing a kettle bell while doing flips on a swiss ball. If you dont increase the weight, mode (db vs barbell vs etc), time etc, then you will continue to adapt. Otherwise, it is called the reversibility principle. If youa rent using what you have, then you'll lose it. Muscle confusion isnt a tough principle to understand. Throw some more weight on the bar, increase the rep range, pause between eccentric/concentric cycles etc....no need for all that cross fit BS
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02-12-2017, 08:32 PM #327
how long is the road from a 225lb squat ass to grass to 315lb squat ass to grass?
I'm lean bulking right now and all my lifts are going up. My squat sucks like crazy though. I posted my form to several forums and they all said it was amazing so it's not that. I'm just a crappy squatter. My bench is going really well though. I added 20lbs in the past 38 days to my bench 3rm and my other lifts are going well. Why do I just suck at squatting? I honestly want to lean bulk until I can bench around 240lbs for reps and squat 315lbs for reps and then cut hard as fukc. Bulking is depressing because it's life on rot mode because I'm just so focused on getting stronger that I don't feel the drive to do anything else in life besides studying and lifting. I'm confident I'll hit my bench goals soon enough but my squat is just terrible. Wat do? I'm 5'8 160lbs btw.Voices NEGGED without fear of being opinion crew
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Cutting sucks balls bro. Big donkey balls. I think we can all argue you are on top of a plateau. The ACSM/NCSM protocol for plateau breaking is increase rest time between sets, but, honestly, that has never worked for me at all.
how on point is your lean bulk? Are you kcal counting or estimating as best as you can? I dont think it matters much, just wondering
anyway...so your form seems to be on point, but the legs just arent responding. What is your leg workout?
How strong would you say your legs in general? do you have a respectable leg press (i think the leg press is slowly disappearing from gyms)? I'm just asking because (i'm sure you know this) you cant have a good squat with a weak leg press or weak ham development, ya know? Weak ISO = weak compounds.
the thing to remember about squats is that it is a HUGELY compound movement. The weight on your shoulders raises your center of gravity, Your core muscles (abs, erector spinae, inter/external obliques, transverse abdominal, multifidus and depending on who you ask the psoas major) keep you stable along with your glutes, then your hamstrings and quads contract in almost unison so the upper body can come down close to straight up. 100k years ago, human legs were probably solid as fuuuuuuuuck because there were no toilets and we had to squat to chit, so this isnt an unnatural movement. Usually where yous hould pause between eccentric and concentric phases is where the money is made but most dont exactly work on that, it just comes with the territory.
There are a bunch of factors that could reveal the culprit. PM me some and i'll take a look. Me thinks you should work on your hip drive. Lexira can give you an A+ run down on that. The guy can dick thrust a semi. But along with hip thrusts and also hamstring (i keep typing 'hamSTRONG' contraction because instead of hamSTRING. Maybe is hould coin that...) because they do more than just bend the knee. The also thrust your pelvis forward. Glutes area factor too.
What i'm getting at, and i'm sure you already knwo that its a multitude of muscles working in sync to achieve your goal, even down in the calves. Think in terms of a kinetic chain:
-Energy generates from the ground into your feet
-Which travels up to your calves
-Then hams/quads, then glutes
-and abs
when one group is lacking, the others pick up the slack and can cause injury. Knee issues tend to arise from poor stance. I personally like to rest y hands Over the bar rather than grab because it hurts my wrists. Also, make sure your elbows are pointing to the ground and tucking into your lats. This helps save face with your RC muscles. IMO, ATG squats are harmful, but to each his own. try puasing and the bottom and holding for 5-10 seconds and then EXPLODING up, you'll need to lower the weight though. You can also use plyometrics to help get a boost. Put as much effort in other lifts as ou do quat. And it never hurts to mix things up. Shock that sh*t up and FORCE your legs to respond
Edit:“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.” - The Nameless City by HP Lovecraft
"The higher the prevalence of infectious diseases the higher the probability of totalitarian political attitudes."
-Dr. Jordan Peterson Sept 2017
"The search for a moral equivalent of war continues to define American Liberalism to this day."
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02-14-2017, 04:20 PM #329
Sprints the day after heavy legs? Putting together my program for football, running twice a week and unfortunately both days fall after legs (heavy legs and explosive/plyo days) Not sure what i can change due to my schedule outside of training, am i just going to injure myself attempting this?
Also i know not quite on topic, wondering if you could recommend any supps that genuinely improve athletic performance, just asking since there's a good few experience lifters in here. Thanks for the thread tankbruh
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Sprinting the day after leg day is gonna suck balls. If I understand you correctly, you will be int he gym 2 days a week and sprinting 2 days (day after leg day)? What exactly will our leg day look like? It REALLY seems like you'd be dangerously close to over training. Personally, i'd EASE sprints in there because i hate doing them, i'm built like a deep freezer and i'm slow as fukkkkk. But you could go balls out on sprint day and slowly bring in leg day. I mean, if you REALLY put effort into sprints, especially after heavy leg day, you'll be damn near paralyzed for 2 or 3 days. Sprints are no fukking joke when you give it your all. can you give me a preview of what your workout will resemble?
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