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    Lifting heavy after certain age is not worth it, SRS

    I know tons of guys over 40 that cant lift anymore, have herniated disc...hey even my dad cant at 56 years old

    a guy I know who was a bodybuilder and a powerlifter here, cant even walk anymore and he is only 60

    all Im saying, as a 29 years old guy, stay safe, think in the long term


    you dont need to squat heavy or do deadlifts to get bigger...there is nothing alpha about lifting heavy weights lol, be smart about it
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    I recently stopped lifting heavy too. Was having pains in my shoulders and back. Not worth fuking up my joints just to impress a bunch of *******s on the internet.
    Lifting is just a hobby for me anyway, not like I compete. As long as I can have a decent physique and strength level, I'm not too concerned.
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    you are aware 29-35 is when men are at their strongest?
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    been relatively the same size as my AVI, give or take some BF% for the last 5-6 years...aside from the obvious risk to long term aches and pains, I personally don't find lifting heavy fun and haven't for years. Its all about getting that pump, its like a drug.

    The only place being strong and lifting heavy weight matters is in the gym, sh*t is not useful in outside the gym, been there, done that.

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    you are aware 29-35 is when men are at their strongest?
    A lot of people will say that...but its not typically people that are in that age range. Theres literally no bodily reason that makes that true. If youv been training since you were 15-20 years old your not going to have been getting stronger and stronger over the 10-15 year period, unless youv made ****ty progress over a decade or more...or you become a cyclist. Also our hormone levels that actually help strength training and building muscle aren't at their peek anymore.
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    Can confirm. I'm 35, have a bulging disc in my neck that makes it painful to use heavy weight on any upper body exercise and a bunch of other nagging injuries I've accrued since I started lifting at 21. Safety and health is my main priority now, took a few years to admit to myself I cant go as hard as I used to.
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    yup. unless your competitive its not worth it imo.
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    I have arthritis in my neck and I feel like dying on this bulk cuz I'm lifting heavy. Can't wait to cut
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    I'd have to disagree entirely.

    Although, I've suffered through numerous injuries during my lifting career, I still tend to lift heavy during a training cycle.

    Keeps me strong, fast and able to keep up with my kids.
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    Started dead lifting 1.5 years ago with 75 pounds.

    Op is right 45 is too old.

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    What rep range do you guys recommend for longevity? I used to do 3-5, testing my 1rm at least once a week. But now I'm doing sets of 10.
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    Originally Posted by Zerafian View Post
    been relatively the same size as my AVI, give or take some BF% for the last 5-6 years...aside from the obvious risk to long term aches and pains, I personally don't find lifting heavy fun and haven't for years. Its all about getting that pump, its like a drug.

    The only place being strong and lifting heavy weight matters is in the gym, sh*t is not useful in outside the gym, been there, done that.



    A lot of people will say that...but its not typically people that are in that age range. Theres literally no bodily reason that makes that true. If youv been training since you were 15-20 years old your not going to have been getting stronger and stronger over the 10-15 year period, unless youv made ****ty progress over a decade or more...or you become a cyclist. Also our hormone levels that actually help strength training and building muscle aren't at their peek anymore.
    They should be if you are lifting in your 30's.....if you know what I mean.

    otherwise yeh no point if you wanna get big.....lifting heavy is retarded anyway.....hypertrophy brahssss
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    What rep range do you guys recommend for longevity? I used to do 3-5, testing my 1rm at least once a week. But now I'm doing sets of 10.
    My training cycles vary from 12-15 to 1-3 as it progresses.
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    Originally Posted by lolnattylifting View Post
    you are aware 29-35 is when men are at their strongest?
    Thank you. I'll be 36 by the time my next PL meet is here and I haven't been stronger in my life. Dropping to 181 and still hit great numbers.

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    Can confirm. I'm 35, have a bulging disc in my neck that makes it painful to use heavy weight on any upper body exercise and a bunch of other nagging injuries I've accrued since I started lifting at 21. Safety and health is my main priority now, took a few years to admit to myself I cant go as hard as I used to.
    that sucks bro, I see the pain my dad goes through at 56 years old...pain all the time, sleeps like chit, he cant even play golf like a normal person, taking pills for the pain...all because lifting weights


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    I don't know that I agree. I think you can lift heavy as long as you are smart. I have had two shoulder surgeries and I lift with permanent nerve damage in my right hand. I try to train smart, but i enjoy pushing myself. I don't have any problems and am getting stronger. I just think you need to listen to your body. I mean I don't do a lot of dumbell work because of my hand, but I just hit a PR on bench of 135. While I have to use hooks to deadlift, my back is stronger than ever.
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    Thank you. I'll be 36 by the time my next PL meet is here and I haven't been stronger in my life. Dropping to 181 and still hit great numbers.

    OP, tell this dude its not worth it...

    http://youtu.be/rI5uiwxe0NU
    what are the stats though. how many injured vs not due to "heavy" lifting. and I am talking any injury, from a strain to hernia. the saying "at what cost" comes to mind.

    you will always have those that are the exceptions
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    Not knowing what you are doing and then hurting yourself =/= lifting heavy weights.

    Tons of strong as fuk old dudes.
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Not knowing what you are doing and then hurting yourself =/= lifting heavy weights.

    Tons of strong as fuk old dudes.
    This.

    OP brings up 3 alleged true stories and takes it for the gospel.
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Not knowing what you are doing and then hurting yourself =/= lifting heavy weights.

    Tons of strong as fuk old dudes.
    it would be interesting to see though the stats on strong old dudes with and without injuries.
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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    Thank you. I'll be 36 by the time my next PL meet is here and I haven't been stronger in my life. Dropping to 181 and still hit great numbers.

    OP, tell this dude its not worth it...

    http://youtu.be/rI5uiwxe0NU
    I have a lot of respect for you and guys who are even older and still lift heavy, but you know what Im trying to say

    its all good until it happens...then comes the regret

    talked to many docs because of my dad problem...they have all said lifting heavy is very dangerous and many end up paraplegic
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    Originally Posted by NKWulf View Post
    what are the stats though. how many injured vs not due to "heavy" lifting. and I am talking any injury, from a strain to hernia. the saying "at what cost" comes to mind.

    you will always have those that are the exceptions
    I don't know his injuries and honestly don't care. Phil is about 215lbs and 79 years old. He trains 3 days a we and it keeps him mentally young, allows him to set goals and reach them.

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    I have a lot of respect for you and guys who are even older and still lift heavy, but you know what Im trying to say

    its all good until it happens...then comes the regret

    talked to many docs because of my dad problem...they have all said lifting heavy is very dangerous and many end up paraplegic
    Comes regret for who? FUK that...I'd rather do something that made me happy than spend my life being boring and ordinary.

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    Now that I'm 30 I can't deadlift as heavy as I used to and my knees are shot to chit to the point that I can't squat anymore. Hell, doing OHP yesterday lit up my shoulders and disks.
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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    I don't know his injuries and honestly don't care. Phil is about 215lbs and 79 years old. He trains 3 days a we and it keeps him mentally young, allows him to set goals and reach them.
    then youre missing the point of the conversation.
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    Originally Posted by pablocai View Post
    I have a lot of respect for you and guys who are even older and still lift heavy, but you know what Im trying to say

    its all good until it happens...then comes the regret

    talked to many docs because of my dad problem...they have all said lifting heavy is very dangerous and many end up paraplegic
    You can end up paraplegic driving a car, walking across the street, or in your own home. If you train smart, do not ego lift, rest, listen to your body, train with good form, take care of your body and fuel it, you will not be at severe risk of injury when lifting heavy.

    Also heavy is relative.
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    Originally Posted by pablocai View Post
    talked to many docs because of my dad problem...they have all said lifting heavy is very dangerous and many end up paraplegic
    Lol, unless your doctor lifts, I wouldn't trust their lifting advice.

    If you lift with good form for several years, take deloads and take care of your joints, there is no reason you can't lift heavy at 40 years old.

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    Originally Posted by JimFromRaleigh1 View Post
    You can end up paraplegic driving a car, walking across the street, or in your own home. If you train smart, do not ego lift, rest, listen to your body, train with good form, take care of your body and fuel it, you will not be at severe risk of injury when lifting heavy.

    Also heavy is relative.
    very true point.
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    OP, you cant talk for everyone, will be 46 in Oct., frankly if you don't lift heavy go home. 3 time Michigan Raw Heavy Weight Power Lifting Champion and I do not lift in the Masters division. Lift with form and technique, I have had my issues with injury, but 99% of the time it is because I was foolish or did not warm up correctly. I lift at a college and most just believe I am part of the football team, age is only a number.
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    Originally Posted by NKWulf View Post
    it would be interesting to see though the stats on strong old dudes with and without injuries.
    I bet it(the injury rate) would be lower than the general population who is untrained.

    There are all kinds of weak, broken old people with bad hips, knees, backs, shoulders etc just from working and never touching a barbell in their life.
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    Originally Posted by BioDiver View Post
    Now that I'm 30 I can't deadlift as heavy as I used to and my knees are shot to chit to the point that I can't squat anymore. Hell, doing OHP yesterday lit up my shoulders and disks.
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    Originally Posted by NKWulf View Post
    then youre missing the point of the conversation.
    I completely get the point...my point is people should stop being pussies.

    If you're really injured then don't be an ass...if you have a little elbow pain then go fuk your mother and get back under the bar. Not telling you to violate your mom...I'm speaking in general.
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