CKD bloated after refeed

[Insilicio]

So I started CKD, around 190 lbs atm. Had my first refeed yesterday, around 500g carbs, low fat. Started at like 3pm, my skin looked pretty tight around 9pm. This morning however, I looked very bloated. Does this mean I overdid it with the carbs, or is it fine?

I had around 1800kcal during the week, and yesterday around 3500kcal.

[scudda]

Bloating is bound to happen after you introduce carbs in your diet since you have been eating only fats and protein. Even a small meal containing carbs causes bloating. But dont worry about it, its just water weight.

[WiseDisguise]

Even with a refeed, 500g carbs seems like too much in my opinion. It's pretty much impossible to consume that much without having some turn to fat. The muscles and liver will reach their glycogen capacity after ~ 100-200 grams of carbs max. Even a single meal with some carbs (50g) I have noticed glucose energy for my workouts up to 3 days later.

I'm all for the idea of a refeed every once in a while; I just don't think that consuming several hundred carbs is necessary or more effective. If I ate 600 carbs in a day after being in keto I would feel like s***.

[Insilicio]

Thanks guys.

@WiseDisguise: Where do you base this on? I don't get where you get those numbers from.

I will just do another week of CKD at the same kcal, and if next week I didn't drop fat I know I overdid it last time, and will dial back a little bit.

[thesilent1]

Thanks guys.

@WiseDisguise: Where do you base this on? I don't get where you get those numbers from.

I will just do another week of CKD at the same kcal, and if next week I didn't drop fat I know I overdid it last time, and will dial back a little bit.

Sounds like an epic refeed dude; 3500cals!!! Remember you are storing loads of water due to the carbs which you will lose in the next few days. Hope you enjoyed the food though; that's the main thing. Enjoy food, enjoy life!!

[Insilicio]

Yeah it was good. And 3500kcal during the entire day it was, not one meal. Had like 500kcal before 3pm, after that I did eat 3000 kcal devided over 3 meals with carbs. Wasn't too hard lol. Let you guys next saturday if I lost fat

[Spawn8214]

People answered it kind of, but missed it.

Generally, the bloating is a sign that your glycogen stores are full. Scudda is wrong, if you had a meal with 10g of carbs, you won't bloat from it. You will only bloat once you completely fill your glycogen stores.

I would try this, on your next refeed, cut the carbs you consume in half (250g) and see if you bloat the next day or not. If not, then your next refeed go up 50g to 300g of carbs. Do this until you find the balance between where you bloat and where you don't. When I was doing CKD, I found that my refeed limit on carbs was about 300g as I am somewhat carb sensitive.

[scudda]

People answered it kind of, but missed it.

Generally, the bloating is a sign that your glycogen stores are full. Scudda is wrong, if you had a meal with 10g of carbs, you won't bloat from it. You will only bloat once you completely fill your glycogen stores.

I would try this, on your next refeed, cut the carbs you consume in half (250g) and see if you bloat the next day or not. If not, then your next refeed go up 50g to 300g of carbs. Do this until you find the balance between where you bloat and where you don't. When I was doing CKD, I found that my refeed limit on carbs was about 300g as I am somewhat carb sensitive.

By small meal I meant like 100g. How come one wont bloat from it, you are suddenly introducing carbs after a long time thus you gain water weight?

[Spawn8214]

Gaining water weight doesn't cause bloating immediately. The carbs get shuttled into your glycogen stores and your muscles draw in water while your glycogen stores fill. This is what causes you to 'fill out' and look bigger and more defined. Once you consume too many carbs and your glycogen stores spill over, then you begin to bloat. Which is why it's a sign that your glycogen stores are full.

[Tounx]

Fiber, magnesuim, and acidophilus is what I used to get rid of bloating

Fiber: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...T36HYS6XZ6F6YJ
Magnesium: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...QKGGPAPRNWDI2N
Acidophilus: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...UVTS4FLCGNOW5D

[tomrose9]

Just a suggestion here - whilst that amount of carbs may well cause bloating, surely it wouldn't impact total weight loss over a week if an overall deficit was maintained? Yes, weight would go up because of water and glycogen for a few days, but would there be any fat gain?

Say I diet on 1600 6 days of the week and still have a carb up day of 3000 cals and my daily maintenance =2300. This still leaves me with a week deficit of 3600...