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    Thumbs up Bee Honey

    Is Bee Honey that effective in a weight/fat loss plan?

    Definitely, Bee Honey is good enough to think of introducing it into your daily diet plan but what is there more than that?

    Many articles had been written about Honey importance, taking 1-2 teaspoons in the morning with breakfast and another before bedtime.

    In the morning, adding Honey to White or Green Tea, Cinnamon and Lemon boosts your energy levels and is said to help in fat loss process.

    I cheer eating everything from the nature especially organic food, so why not every bodybuilder try this wonderful mixture.

    At end, if it does not help you in burning some fat and loosing weight, it will surely boost your energy and improve your overall health(sexual performance & sperm production within too ).
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    It's the same as consuming table sugar.
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    Interesting signature. The same could be said for nutrition.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    It's the same as consuming table sugar.
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    Interesting signature. The same could be said for nutrition.
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    Originally Posted by StrongJake View Post
    Is Bee Honey that effective in a weight/fat loss plan?

    Definitely, Bee Honey is good enough to think of introducing it into your daily diet plan but what is there more than that?

    Many articles had been written about Honey importance, taking 1-2 teaspoons in the morning with breakfast and another before bedtime.

    In the morning, adding Honey to White or Green Tea, Cinnamon and Lemon boosts your energy levels and is said to help in fat loss process.

    I cheer eating everything from the nature especially organic food, so why not every bodybuilder try this wonderful mixture.

    At end, if it does not help you in burning some fat and loosing weight, it will surely boost your energy and improve your overall health(sexual performance & sperm production within too ).
    Wonderpug stated it correctly.
    The only advantages of honey are that it tastes better than table sugar and honey can be purchased in the comb, which is quite good on toast.
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    I prefer ostrich honey personally. Those crazy ostriches, making their honey in hives.
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    Originally Posted by KayPS View Post
    Interesting signature. The same could be said for nutrition.
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    Originally Posted by usawinston View Post
    Wonderpug stated it correctly.
    The only advantages of honey are that it tastes better than table sugar and honey can be purchased in the comb, which is quite good on toast.
    Eliminating all Honey Benefits by saying it's just like sugar is not wise.

    Would post some of Honey Benefits(taking from an article) for all to understand why I started this important topic.

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    Honey Health Benefits:

    1. Prevent cancer and heart disease:
    Honey contains flavonoids, antioxidants which help reduce the risk of some cancers and heart disease.

    2. Reduce ulcers and other gastrointestinal disorders.
    Recent research shows that honey treatment may help disorders such as ulcers and bacterial gastroenteritis. This may be related to the 3rd benefit…

    3. Anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-fungal:

    “All honey is antibacterial, because the bees add an enzyme that makes hydrogen peroxide,” said Peter Molan, director of the Honey Research Unit at the University of Waikato in New Zealand.

    4. Increase athletic performance.

    Ancient Olympic athletes would eat honey and dried figs to enhance their performance. This has now been verified with modern studies, showing that it is superior in maintaining glycogen levels and improving recovery time than other sweeteners.

    5. Reduce cough and throat irritation:

    Honey helps with coughs, particularly buckwheat honey. In a study of 110 children, a single dose of buckwheat honey was just as effective as a single dose of dextromethorphan in relieving nocturnal cough and allowing proper sleep.

    6. Balance the 5 elements:

    Honey has been used in ayurvedic medicine in India for at least 4000 years and is considered to affect all three of the body’s primitive material imbalances positively. It is also said to be useful useful in improving eyesight, weight loss, curing impotence and premature ejaculation, urinary tract disorders, bronchial asthma, diarrhea, and nausea.

    Honey is referred as “Yogavahi” since it has a quality of penetrating the deepest tissues of the body. When honey is used with other herbal preparations, it enhances the medicinal qualities of those preparations and also helps them to reach the deeper tissues.

    7. Blood sugar regulation:
    Even though honey contains simple sugars, it is NOT the same as white sugar or artificial sweeteners. Its exact combination of fructose and glucose actually helps the body regulate blood sugar levels. Some honeys have a low hypoglycemic index, so they don’t jolt your blood sugar. (Watch this video Sweetener Comparison where I compare stevia, brown rice syrup, honey, molasses and agave, and discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each.)

    8. Heal wounds and burns:
    External application of honey has been shown to be as effective as conventional treatment with silver sulfadiazene. It is speculated that the drying effect of the simple sugars and honey’s anti-bacterial nature combine to create this effect.

    9. Probiotic:
    Some varieties of honey possess large amounts of friendly bacteria. This includes up to 6 species of lactobacilli and 4 species of bifidobacteria. This may explain many of the “mysterious therapeutic properties of honey.”

    10. Beautiful skin:

    Its anti-bacterial qualities are particularly useful for the skin, and, when used with the other ingredients, can also be moisturizing and nourishing!

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    Finally, We must not neglect food facts that had been proven thousands of years ago.
    If people just go back to eating food from nature instead of junks, fast food..etc, many hospitals around the world would be empty from patients who ruin their health from eating according to what advertisements and marketing show us.
    People who lived thousands of years ago relying on their own agriculture for eating were not stupid and we are the smart!!

    Just an advice to be careful when choosing a bee honey brand, some that are imported come with removed pollen, don't buy that, best if you can buy it from a trusted local farm.
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    Let me give you a bit of warning: just because you think you're very good at nutrition, it should not go to your head that you are an expert.

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    Originally Posted by KayPS View Post
    Let me give you a bit of warning: just because you think you're very good at nutrition, it should not go to your head that you are an expert.

    See, I can copy and paste, too.
    WOW, Brilliant, you are good in something

    Well, actually better than posting something useless as a signature
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    I have recently been drinking 8oz green tea (refrigerated brew overnight lipton green tea) with 1 tablespoon of honey in the morning and I really do feel better after drinking it. I don't know if its my blood sugar balancing out or the caffeine or just a placebo effect that I feel like I am doing something good but seriously it improves my mood and energy levels noticeably. Before I was doing this my normal breakfast would be
    1 cup oats = 300 cal
    2 scoops protein 240 cal
    3 eggs = 210 cal
    750 cal, 56 carbs, 76 protein.

    now

    1/2 cup oatmeal 150 cal
    3 eggs with cheese 250 cal
    Green tea with 1 tbls honey 80 cal
    2 scoops protein 240 cal
    48 carb, 74 protein
    720 cal

    The first one was a breakfast I have eaten for years. The second one I have been doing for about 3 weeks so..... Thoughts?
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    It's the same as consuming table sugar.
    From a diet perspective: yes but it's healthier than table sugar.
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    From a diet perspective: yes but it's healthier than table sugar.
    Actually, honey is vastly more metabolically damaging than sugar in high doses due to the high concentration of fructose.
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    I find that honey from Africanized honeybees is far more anabolic than regular beees, makes me want to kill it in the gym, instead of just droning through my workout.
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    Originally Posted by usawinston View Post
    Wonderpug stated it correctly.
    The only advantages of honey are that it tastes better than table sugar and honey can be purchased in the comb, which is quite good on toast.
    Would rep you for honeycomb mention. That stuff is good. especially when you just cut a slice and eat it straight.
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    Originally Posted by StrongJake View Post
    .. if it does not help you in burning some fat and loosing weight....
    Please explain how eating honey helps in burning body fat and "loosing" weight.



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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Please explain how eating honey helps in burning body fat and "loosing" weight.



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    Makes you loose around the midsection.
    Middle America must consume lots of honey!!!
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Please explain how eating honey helps in burning body fat and "loosing" weight.



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    Jake, what are your views on ostrich honey? I've noticed that you only seem to be referring to bee honey here, and I was wondering if all the other kinds provide the same magical benefits.
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    Originally Posted by Xiantium View Post
    I have recently been drinking 8oz green tea (refrigerated brew overnight lipton green tea) with 1 tablespoon of honey in the morning and I really do feel better after drinking it. I don't know if its my blood sugar balancing out or the caffeine or just a placebo effect that I feel like I am doing something good but seriously it improves my mood and energy levels noticeably. Before I was doing this my normal breakfast would be
    1 cup oats = 300 cal
    2 scoops protein 240 cal
    3 eggs = 210 cal
    750 cal, 56 carbs, 76 protein.

    now

    1/2 cup oatmeal 150 cal
    3 eggs with cheese 250 cal
    Green tea with 1 tbls honey 80 cal
    2 scoops protein 240 cal
    48 carb, 74 protein
    720 cal

    The first one was a breakfast I have eaten for years. The second one I have been doing for about 3 weeks so..... Thoughts?
    Your breakfast meal is very rich and somehow similar to mine, but 1 tablespoon of honey is too much(if taking twice a day, breakfast and before bedtime, you better switch to 1 heaped teaspoon for each) and protein supplement is not necessary I believe.

    On an empty stomach, I drink white tea(sometimes green) with a honey teaspoon add in it cinnamon and lemon. That really boosts your energy levels(surely health too), you feel as if "Refresh". As much as I feel full of energy, sometimes directly start workout only relying on the above. Try it if you like.

    After that by some hour, instead of the protein(supplement) you use, I eat as breakfast 0% fat Milk with Oat and Darts, enough to feel gooood until my next meal that is some 3 hours later.

    A good tip would be to drink a cup of the tea mixture(mentioned above) on empty stomach, eat your breakfast then drink another cup, it helps in digestion and weight/fat loss overall process.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Please explain how eating honey helps in burning body fat and "loosing" weight.



    Thanks.
    Not claiming that Honey directly helps in burning fat and losing weight, as you see I asked it as a question but am sure it helps your health, no doubt whatsoever.

    I believe Honey promote in fat/weight loss when you add it into a mixture consisting of White/Green tea, Cinnamon and Lemon.

    Honey is not just like Sugar as some insist to mention! Maybe they don't know that honey is a very good source of nutrients vitamins/minerals which when digested is completely different than your body digesting sugar.

    I know many will come here saying what's the proof backing up that..etc Well, if the FDA have many products not approved despite being actually proven on people with facts, improving patients health, how will anyone give you a proof on anything(long lasting debates!)

    If many pro doctors around the world still totally disagree with Chinese Treatment(Meridians, pressure points..etc) despite you can try it yourself and feel the effectiveness, how will I give you a proof on Honey for fat/weight loss?!

    I believe "Ironwill2008" that you must try anything from nature, feel how your body adapts to it then decide if it's good for you or not.

    Your body never lies but doctors doooo
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    Originally Posted by StrongJake View Post
    Finally, We must not neglect food facts that had been proven thousands of years ago.
    If people just go back to eating food from nature instead of junks, fast food..etc, many hospitals around the world would be empty from patients who ruin their health from eating according to what advertisements and marketing show us.
    People who lived thousands of years ago relying on their own agriculture for eating were not stupid and we are the smart!!
    You should write your own self-help diet books.

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    Originally Posted by Makween View Post
    Jake, what are your views on ostrich honey? I've noticed that you only seem to be referring to bee honey here, and I was wondering if all the other kinds provide the same magical benefits.
    There are many different kinds of honey but I believe Bee Honey is like the soul, that does not neglect the effectiveness of others or in same category like Royal Jelly, all have enough similar benefits.

    If you want to eat it for its health benefits that's good, if just because of studies indicating possible weight/fat loss thats good too especially when taken before bedtime because it is said to enter the liver and release a fat burning hormone during sleep.
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    You should write your own self-help diet books.

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    Would you be the first buyer
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    A lot of nonsense claims and the only source stated is the "director of the Honey Research Unit at the University of Waikato in New Zealand"?

    Negged.
    The above statement/post does not represent the opinions of anyone in real life. This is the internet. Not real life. Anyone who cannot grasp the difference between the two lacks the basic intelligence necessary for survival and should not be allowed to form opinions.
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    Originally Posted by StrongJake View Post
    Would you be the first buyer
    Yes, and possibly the last.

    Jokes aside, honey is pretty awesome and I usually have it once every day or so. I have no doubt that it (like many other whole foods) has many benefits as part of a balanced diet, but there is nothing magical about it.
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    I find that honey from Africanized honeybees is far more anabolic than regular beees, makes me want to kill it in the gym, instead of just droning through my workout.
    bravo
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    I know the OP did a poor job of backing up his claims with anything other than "I believe" but immediately dismissing even the thought that honey has nutritional superiority over table sugar without thinking about it strikes me as bizarre. Yeah, from a calorie standpoint it's basically sugar; yeah, from a GI standpoint it's like sugar. But when did that alone render judgment about what is and what is not "better for you"? I've seen several articles that discuss some of the (admittedly narrow) benefits of honey.

    "In a study involving 105 children aged 2-18 years with upper respiratory tract infections of 7 days or less and night-time coughing, a single night-time dose of buckwheat honey was an effective alternative treatment for symptomatic relief of nocturnal cough and sleep difficulty, compared to a single dose of dextromethorphan (DM).

    Researchers from the Penn State College of Medicine asked parents to give either honey, honey-flavored dextromethorphan (DM), or no treatment to the children. The first night, the children did not receive any treatment. The following night they received a single dose of buckwheat honey, honey-flavored DM, or no treatment 30 minutes before bedtime. The trial was partially blind as parents could not distinguish between the honey and the medication, although those administering no medication were obviously aware of the fact. Parents were asked to report on cough frequency and severity, how bothersome the cough was, and how well both adult and child slept, both 24 hours before and during the night of the dosage.

    Significant symptom improvements were seen in the honey-supplemented children, compared with the no treatment group and DM-treated group, with honey consistently scoring the best and no-treatment scoring the worst."

    Not consuming it... but...

    "Wound healing activity of honey: A pilot study.
    Vijaya KK, Nishteswar K.
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    Medical Officer, Government Ayurvedic Speciality Clinic, Rajahmundry, Andhra Pradesh, India.
    Abstract
    Vrana (wound) and its sequels play a major concern in the field of surgery as Vrana Ropana (wound healing) requires uneventful healing. The aim of the study was to evaluate the changes in physical and morphological properties due to topical application of Madhu (honey) on fresh traumatic wounds or cutaneous wounds. Ten patients of wounds of either sex were randomly selected. Site of the wound, shape, size, floor, and margin were recorded on day 0 and observed on day 7, 15, 20, and till the end of the healing for the progression of granulation, scar type, shape, size, and clinical symptoms. There was significant improvement in the healing process as Madhu possesses antibacterial, wound cleansing, wound healing properties and showed beneficiary effects."

    Also see:

    Antibacterial Activity of Honey on Cariogenic Bacteria
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    When you ^^^ stand with honey health benefits that my thread is all about, why are you that aggressive!?!
    Must every person who start a thread back up claims by making researches through the net and post many articles!? I provided the health benefits which is the most important fact, who cares if some studies from here and there approve it or not.
    If you want to select that path, the debates does not end, one that cheer the claim another study does not.
    If for Honey you and others need a PROOF or STUDIES or APPROVALS, what if it was something else not from nature?!!

    It really amazes me every time I read people asking for more proofs on natural food when they don't open their mouths when their doctor give them a prescription DRUG!!
    And, when they buy supplements not known its original source other than surely full of chemicals, they take it on daily basis with a Big Grin like good boys!!!
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