Nut Misc "Do You Even Lift?" Thread Part II

[RugbyTank]

OOC to those who have completed Smolov:
what type of other lifts did you guys do?
Did you try fitting in those lifts after squats or go in on off days?

[snrygo]

So breathing out at the top and holding it while doing the rep does increase back support?

would you want your abs to be loose in a squat?

[PerpetualMotion]

OOC to those who have completed Smolov:
what type of other lifts did you guys do?
Did you try fitting in those lifts after squats or go in on off days?

Go back to the page before. I provided a link on how to run the base mesocycle of Smolov.

[Chuck2600]

would you want your abs to be loose in a squat?

I just never thought of it before.

I do own and use a belt too.

[ErickStevens]

OOC to those who have completed Smolov:
what type of other lifts did you guys do?
Did you try fitting in those lifts after squats or go in on off days?

Monday: Squat + Push Power
Wednesday: Squat + Pull Power
Friday: Squat + Push Hyper
Saturday: Squat + Pull Hyper

Although I'll be honest, I skipped some of those extra workouts.

[RugbyTank]

Go back to the page before. I provided a link on how to run the base mesocycle of Smolov.

Ya I'vestarted smolov : I've completed Intro Micro, Base Meso, (skipped switching I just rested) and now I got 3x more lift days until I try my new 1-RM in Intense Meso

Monday: Squat + Push Power
Wednesday: Squat + Pull Power
Friday: Squat + Push Hyper
Saturday: Squat + Pull Hyper
Although I'll be honest, I skipped some of those extra workouts.

I've been trying to fit in other lifts on same day but its alot of time in the gym
(unless if I sacrifice some sets &/or exercises)
A full day of rest vs 5 days on deal

[FenderElectrics]

Buying my first belt. From here it seems pretty clear that the inzer 10mm belt is the best option for someone like myself. My question is what size should I get - I am anywhere from a 32-35 depending on whether I'm on a cut or bulk. It looks like the medium is 29-34 and the large is 34-39, any idea which I'd be better off with or does it not matter which I choose?

[ErickStevens]

Buying my first belt. From here it seems pretty clear that the inzer 10mm belt is the best option for someone like myself. My question is what size should I get - I am anywhere from a 32-35 depending on whether I'm on a cut or bulk. It looks like the medium is 29-34 and the large is 34-39, any idea which I'd be better off with or does it not matter which I choose?

This is why I like the lever belt. You can move the buckle depending on your fatness/leanness. I guess you could always drill new holes in a prong belt if you got too lean.

[midcoastking33]

Lifting isn't a good time right now

[RugbyTank]

Lifting isn't a good time right now

Why?

[Nimm]

My shoulders have recently started hurting, and I think it's related to the chest work that I've been doing. It's not a terrible pain, but it doesn't feel just like DOMS either. It's hard to describe - kind of like a "sharp" DOMS - I can't really tell if it's an injury or not.

Anyway, for a while I'd just been doing flat bench for chest work, but...I have no chest. I figured this was bad form on the BP, not enough volume, or both. About a month ago, I switched over to madcow. So now I'm doing:
1. flat BB bench 2x/week, using a wider grip than I had been (forearm is now roughly perpendicular to bicep when I'm starting the press, maybe slightly wider);
2. incline BB bench 1x/week;
3. once or twice per week on off days I'll do some DB flys.

It seems like I'm finally getting some noticeable hypertrophy on the pecs, and I'm still making decent progress on the BB weights, so I want to stick with this if I can. But not wrecking myself is more important, obvs.

Am I injuring myself, or am I just hitting new parts that aren't used to being hit? Any suggestions for how to reduce the chance of shoulder/rotator cuff injury?

[FenderElectrics]

This is why I like the lever belt. You can move the buckle depending on your fatness/leanness. I guess you could always drill new holes in a prong belt if you got too lean.

okay cool since I'm planning on adding to the fatness I'll just grab the large one

thanks

[Lvisaa2]

Other Lee, in my experience incline is by far the most hnnnggg mmc chest movement. Slow tempo and full squeeze at the top is retarded pump/burn out for the last few sets. I do 8-10 sets of incline on my chest hypertrophy days. 5x5-7 for the first sets and then lighter/burn out work.

The wider grip may take a harder toll on your shoulders, be sure to still tuck the elbows in some. Also is this higher volume/intensity than your used to? It usually takes some time for my joints.to get fully accustomed to a new routine.

[Nimm]

Other Lee, in my experience incline is by far the most hnnnggg mmc chest movement. Slow tempo and full squeeze at the top is retarded pump/burn out for the last few sets. I do 8-10 sets of incline on my chest hypertrophy days. 5x5-7 for the first sets and then lighter/burn out work.

The wider grip may take a harder toll on your shoulders, be sure to still tuck the elbows in some. Also is this higher volume/intensity than your used to? It usually takes some time for my joints.to get fully accustomed to a new routine.

It is a significantly greater volume and intensity - which is why I'm not sure if I'm injuring myself. As dumb as it sounds, I really can't tell.

Any suggestions for the best strategy on the elbows? I gotta admit, once I position them on the bar, I don't feel like I have much control over them during the actual lift. And thanks for the advice.

[snrygo]

It is a significantly greater volume and intensity - which is why I'm not sure if I'm injuring myself. As dumb as it sounds, I really can't tell.

Any suggestions for the best strategy on the elbows? I gotta admit, once I position them on the bar, I don't feel like I have much control over them during the actual lift. And thanks for the advice.

For me it was simply getting my lats engaged since I already had a tight lb setup. A few light sets of bw chin-ups and pull-ups before bench and I feel so stable.

[gymjunki3]

Gym was closed today. SOJA was pissed.

public holiday?

[PR1MO]

Not sure if this will be disallowed cos he discusses cell-tech, so mods remove it if so, but pretty cool video otherwise:

[DaBubzy]

Gym was closed today. SOJA was pissed.

happened to me this summer. went out of town 10 days for work, got back for first lift in 10 days all hyped up on stims to see they'd decided to close and remodel, closest gym was 25 mins in traffic.

I almost lost it.

EDIT:

after being sick as a dog all week last week, PR'd across the board this am. squats up to 325 (from 315) for triples, RDLs up to 285 4x6 from 275 3x8

[King222]

had my second squat day today since my hip/thigh pain last week, and it was still giving me sharp pain although rather than pain whilst going into the hole it was only once i reached max rom and then tried to push out... just did 3x185x8 and I still had a pretty good feel in da quads (should've been on track to do 4x240x8) but I suppose if I'm going for hypertrophy to begin with this isn't a HUGE set back... leg pressing is starting to suffer ROM due to the pain as well.

anything else i can do besides add glute work in order to possibly resolve this :x?

[Andrew_S]

had my second squat day today since my hip/thigh pain last week, and it was still giving me sharp pain although rather than pain whilst going into the hole it was only once i reached max rom and then tried to push out... just did 3x185x8 and I still had a pretty good feel in da quads (should've been on track to do 4x240x8) but I suppose if I'm going for hypertrophy to begin with this isn't a HUGE set back... leg pressing is starting to suffer ROM due to the pain as well.

anything else i can do besides add glute work in order to possibly resolve this :x?

Sharp pain? Then yes, let it heal and do things that don't cause pain until it's better.

[snrygo]

dont be an idiot like me and try to work through it if its sharp. let it heal and you might be able to squat soon instead of waiting 2 months for it to heal

had my second squat day today since my hip/thigh pain last week, and it was still giving me sharp pain although rather than pain whilst going into the hole it was only once i reached max rom and then tried to push out... just did 3x185x8 and I still had a pretty good feel in da quads (should've been on track to do 4x240x8) but I suppose if I'm going for hypertrophy to begin with this isn't a HUGE set back... leg pressing is starting to suffer ROM due to the pain as well.

anything else i can do besides add glute work in order to possibly resolve this :x?

[TomBremner]

once i finish my deload im either going to do the smolov meso cycle again or give the bulgarian method a shot. anyone have any input? im really chasing a 500 pound squat.

[PerpetualMotion]

once i finish my deload im either going to do the smolov meso cycle again or give the bulgarian method a shot.

No to Bulgarian method. Run Smolov again if you really want.

[King222]

dont be an idiot like me and try to work through it if its sharp. let it heal and you might be able to squat soon instead of waiting 2 months for it to heal

i always work through the pain... hell i used to have a sharp pain in my rotator cuff/shoulder area and it used to make me stop mid pressing movements.. kept pushing through it and added rotator cuff work before all upper days and it took like 3 weeks to heal haha, probably wasn't the smartest idea though :/ Yeah I'll just light squat and a little reduced rom / lighter leg press for a few weeks and see how it's doing, getting out of the hole with the pain attached makes heavy squats just impossible

[midcoastking33]

Why?

Just going through the motions, can't wait to bulk and possibly join the dark side

[TomBremner]

No to Bulgarian method. Run Smolov again if you really want.

any reason why not to try Bulgarian method aside from lack of tech?

[PerpetualMotion]

any reason why not to try Bulgarian method aside from lack of tech?

What's your total and lifts at now?

Tech isn't even a good reason and I'd never use it as an excuse not to do the Bulgarian method (BM). I think BM assumes that an individual is honest with him or herself in regards to technique and their daily max as well as not abusing or really using pump up techniques, stimulants, etc. People have problems scaling back when necessary or they feel like they need to run themselves into the ground every workout or have grindy repetitions.

Perryman put it nicely one time: "CNS fatigue is the product of psychological and emotional stress." Most people can't control either and will either spin their wheels or run themselves into the ground. If you really want to give a go and think you can control all that stuff then go for it. It isn't magic, though, and you're not going to see an insanely rapid increase in strength. If you're curious about it and what the parameters are then check the links below.

Perryman's article on BM:
http://www.myosynthesis.com/workouts...style-training

Here's a good, recent article on BM from T-Nation:
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...ifts_every_day

[TomBremner]

What's your total and lifts at now?

Tech isn't even a good reason and I'd never use it as an excuse not to do the Bulgarian method (BM). I think BM assumes that an individual is honest with him or herself in regards to technique and their daily max as well as not abusing or really using pump up techniques, stimulants, etc. People have problems scaling back when necessary or they feel like they need to run themselves into the ground every workout or have grindy repetitions.

Perryman put it nicely one time: "CNS fatigue is the product of psychological and emotional stress." Most people can't control either and will either spin their wheels or run themselves into the ground. If you really want to give a go and think you can control all that stuff then go for it. It isn't magic, though, and you're not going to see an insanely rapid increase in strength. If you're curious about it and what the parameters are then check the links below.

Perryman's article on BM:
http://www.myosynthesis.com/workouts...style-training

Here's a good, recent article on BM from T-Nation:
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...ifts_every_day

bench 355
squat 460
DL i dont know, my gym has small plates so its always from a deficit but i have pulled 455 from a deficit so off the floor maybe 480
military press 200

and it was perryman who got me considering the bulgarian method

[hcoyle545]

have any of you *******s switched from low bar to high bar squatting and if so, why?

[PerpetualMotion]

and it was perryman who got me considering the bulgarian method

If you think you can follow Perryman's guidelines then you could give it a go.

have any of you *******s switched from low bar to high bar squatting and if so, why?

On my warm-up sets and that's so I can go deeper.

Eric Lilliebridge high-bar squats and he kind of almost hit 904 raw.