BREAKING NEWS: The terror in norway. 80(!!!) teenagers confirmed KILLED

[Rambo26]

have to be honest I bet if this happened in the US a team would have got there quicker

[notsureifsrsss]

You should call your nearest police station and educate your self. You can get guns for hunting and competition purposes only. You will not get a permit to go hunting with your modified single action AK-47. If you ever saw "Landsskyttter stevnet" you'd know the only people allowed to compete with automatic weapons, modified or otherwise, are people who are currently employed by the police or military.

As I said, we are talking about the ACQUIRING process. If you are a member of a shooting club/ shooting range, you can apply for owning semi automatic assault rifles.

Read this:
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?showtopic=857768

[stopsign]

have to be honest I bet if this happened in the US a team would have got there quicker

Just because it tends to happen more often in the US.

These things almost never happen in Norway.

[SoSick]

RIP Norway brahs

[SeizeTheWeight]

i lol @ you *******s who thought it was muslims, especially you OP, you dumb kunt.

Shocking how one man on an island just slaughtered kids tho :/
No security on the island?

There probably was unarmed security (I'm guessing, as pretty much any event with lots of people has security of some sort, but even majority of police don't carry guns in Norway)

[HassanChop]

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=25501

why isn't the EDL out on the streets opposing this attack then?

[Beast92]

RIP teen brahs

[marin3muscl3]

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=25501

why isn't the EDL out on the streets opposing this attack then?

**** the EDL. They preach but don't follow. The majority of their members are involved in paki bashings.

[Lord_Lemon]

You are not allowed to carry guns in Norway. How did this guy gets guns if he's not allowed?

[QT]

You are not allowed to carry guns in Norway. How did this guy gets guns if he's not allowed?

You need a license. Alot of hunters got guns.

[Lord_Lemon]

You need a license. Alot of hunters got guns.

Civilians can carry with a license? Don't think so bub.

[notsureifsrsss]

You are not allowed to carry guns in Norway. How did this guy gets guns if he's not allowed?

Do you realize there is a difference between carrying a gun and acquiring a gun? Anyone can acquire a semi automatic weapon here if they fill out the paperwork etc.

[SonnyBIlly]

You can read an extensive compilation of Anders Behring Breivik's (the terrorist) contributions to a Norweigian political website via Google translate here:

http://translate.google.com/translat...ing-breivik%2F

It provides an insight into his political motivations. He's not a loon, or even particularly extreme in his ideology. His politics appear to be centre-right (his ******** heroes are Winston Churchill and John Stuart Mill!), and where he does move to the fringe on multi-culturalism, his views are still similar to Angela Merkel's and Nicholas Sarkozy's recent comments against it.

He appears to be an otherwise mainstream political operative who choose terror as a political tactic. Instead of trying to defeat his opponents at the ballot box, he kills them.

He wasn't lead astray by a descent into radical politics or by some personal mental illness, he just chose terror as a tactic.

He's a tactician of politics of mass murder (of children!), a political terrorist in the worst traditions of a Robespierre or Lenin, but who admires John Stuart Mill. Absolutely horrifying.

If you want to place it in the context of the politics of massacre and terror read the articles here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Ter...ambiguation%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_T...ambiguation%29

Such an empty feeling, contemplating the horror of it. Makes you reflect that life always comes first, before liberty, and that likewise, civil peace is worth more than any political difference.

My condolences to the families and friends of the kids, the party and Norway.

[JonnyNUFC87]

Just looked on sky news and they say 91 total confirmed dead. This is just getting worse. Very sad that this happened.

[Lord_Lemon]

Do you realize there is a difference between carrying a gun and acquiring a gun? Anyone can acquire a semi automatic weapon here if they fill out the paperwork etc.

It's not as easy as just "filling out the paperwork" in Norway. You can't have a gun for defense there. Only for hunting and sporting and if it's for sporting you have to prove you are a sports shooter. Hunters are allowed rifles.

It's not like anyone can just get a license.

[QT]

Got a couple of close friends missing :/ From the island.

[JoeTheBarbarian]

according to the media, the killer enjoyed bodybuilding...

was he a miscer? srs

[LostInTheKHole]

according to the media, the killer enjoyed bodybuilding...

was he a miscer? srs

Well, he also hated Muslims and immigration like a lot of Miscers do, so it wouldn't be surprising.

[notsureifsrsss]

It's not as easy as just "filling out the paperwork" in Norway. You can't have a gun for defense there. Only for hunting and sporting and if it's for sporting you have to prove you are a sports shooter. Hunters are allowed rifles.

It's not like anyone can just get a license.

Nobody is discussing defense. Your original post was asking how he acquired the gun...Which I've answered, and proven that he acquired it legally.

What more do you want?

[TheOak]

Well, he also hated Muslims and immigration like a lot of Miscers do, so it wouldn't be surprising.

You are one thick kunt mate I swear, people hate Muslim extremists. You know, the kind that immigrate to our countries and hold protests on our streets spouting hatred towards us and vowing to bring sharia law to our countries and to kill us if we object to this. How the fuk do you expect us to react?

[notsureifsrsss]

You are one thick kunt mate I swear, people hate Muslim extremists. You know, the kind that immigrate to our countries and hold protests on our streets spouting hatred towards us and vowing to bring sharia law to our countries and to kill us if we object to this. How the fuk do you expect us to react?

React by hating the EXTREMISTS instead of hating the entire group of muslims, which is 2 billion people?

[LostInTheKHole]

You are one thick kunt mate I swear, people hate Muslim extremists. You know, the kind that immigrate to our countries and hold protests on our streets spouting hatred towards us and vowing to bring sharia law to our countries and to kill us if we object to this. How the fuk do you expect us to react?

Not to single out regular Muslims who also hate Muslim extremists as much as you do and perhaps not call for wiping them out from the face of the Earth.
When you have posters like Testifier making posts like this:http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...&postcount=387

lol @ muslims trolling the world and no one trying to stop that ****ing piece of **** religion.

EDIT - someone needs to ****ing nuke mecca, then it'll send a ****ing message to those dip****s.

You really think the hatred is against extremists there?
Brah get a clue, a lot of people here put all Muslims into collective guilt

[TheOak]

React by hating the EXTREMISTS instead of hating the entire group of muslims, which is 2 billion people?

uh, I just said that in bolded...

[TheOak]

Not to single out regular Muslims who also hate Muslim extremists as much as you do and perhaps not call for wiping them out from the face of the Earth.
When you have posters like Testifier making posts like this:http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...&postcount=387

You really think the hatred is against extremists there?
Brah get a clue, a lot of people here put all Muslims into collective guilt

Muslim communities need to and could do more to root out the extremists but according to one member here this isn't done because of this:

"keep living in your finnish bubble. you try reporting your local terrorist when you know it will equal the death of your entire family".

When moderate Muslims say that to you it's pretty hard to completely disconnect them from the extremists and the killings they're responsible for, when they could have done something about it.

[Lord_Lemon]

Nobody is discussing defense. Your original post was asking how he acquired the gun...Which I've answered, and proven that he acquired it legally.

What more do you want?

You didn't prove ****. The shooter had automatic weapons. Those cannot be obtained legally. He also had 2 pistols. How do you know those were obtained legally?

My first post was sarcasm to make a point.

Also I didn't know bombs could be obtained legally there either.

[WhatUpDoee]

Muslim communities need to and could do more to root out the extremists but according to one member here this isn't done because of this:

"keep living in your finnish bubble. you try reporting your local terrorist when you know it will equal the death of your entire family".

When moderate Muslims say that to you it's pretty hard to completely disconnect them from the extremists and the killings they're responsible for, when they could have done something about it.

You mean, when 1 moderate muslim says that?

[LostInTheKHole]

Muslim communities need to and could do more to root out the extremists but according to one member here this isn't done because of this:

"keep living in your finnish bubble. you try reporting your local terrorist when you know it will equal the death of your entire family".

When moderate Muslims say that to you it's pretty hard to completely disconnect them from the extremists and the killings they're responsible for, when they could have done something about it.

You're pretty bold to lecture Muslims about the need to crack down on extremists (which they have done many times in America) while ignoring the amount of extremists that exist within your own midst.
If this douchebag shot up an Islamic school and bombed packed mosques in Oslo, would you be willing to deny the amount of hate directed towards Muslims?
You don't think the hate against left-wing governments, immigration, and Muslims/Islam didn't contribute to this man's brutal actions?
You should take your own advice and do something about right-wing extremism, it's going to cause more problems for Europe than Islamic terrorism ever could.
And read this Europol report: https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/...te-sat2011.pdf
7 persons were killed in terrorist attacks. Some 160 of these attacks that year were carried out by separatists. The number launched by people of Muslim heritage? 3.
Am I saying to ignore Islamic terror plots? **** no, they should be monitored and exposed.
But at the expense of letting European separatists, far leftists, and neo-Nazis off the hook?
Uh no.

[notsureifsrsss]

You didn't prove ****. The shooter had automatic weapons. Those cannot be obtained legally. He also had 2 pistols. How do you know those were obtained legally?

My first post was sarcasm to make a point.

Also I didn't know bombs could be obtained legally there either.

Let me spoon feed this to you:

He legally acquired semi automatic weapons which he modified illegaly to become automatic, and then used them to kill 80+ innocent people on a small island. Now do you understand that he ACQUIRED THE WEAPONS HE USED, LEGALLY? Do you also understand that this fact completely disproves your first post, which implied he got the weapons ILLEGALY?

Jesus christ

[SonnyBIlly]

If you want a quick summary of the terrorists politics then here is a list (via Google translate, same link as my previous post) of the values he wants a political newspaper, that he envisioned creating, to have:

Primary Doctrines:

Critical to multiculturalism (Anti-kulturmarxistisk) (Marxist culture, as in Marxist internationalism manifested as muti-culturalism, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proleta...ternationalism)
Anti-racist
Pro Progress Party (maybe right)
Pro Israel (+ support for Armenia, Christian Copts / Maronite / Assyriere, cultural conservative Indians, support for the establishment of a Christian state Biafra, Southern Nigeria and support to the establishment of a Christian state in Sudan, support for Russian / Thailand / Philippines / China + Fighting Jihad)
Anti-UN
Anti-EU
Critical to kulturmarxistiske media (all)
Pro free market
Pro Christian

Apart from being hard on the multi-culturalism issue, which is now shared by establishment right figures like Merkel, Sarkozy and Cameron, it's run-of-the-mill centre-right stuff.

There's no excuse of ideology, he chose terrorism (against children) as a political tactic. Just horrifying.

[FS2]

Absolute sickening.