What Makes The Best Prohormone For The Average User?

[ahalliday69]

This question is one that many people want answered before they put something into their body. So, what really makes the best pro-hormone for people to use? First we need to understand the difference between prohormones and steroids and decipher the many products on the market that use both steroids and pro-hormones in their formulations.
Steroids are active hormones in the body that are naturally produced or unnaturally taken to perform a specific task. Steroids are NOT anabolic steroids, there is a difference. Steroids can be birth control, cortisone or even cholesterol. Something that is a steroid isn?t anabolic (builds muscle) and it doesn?t make the item illegal. Legal steroids that are not anabolic that you will find in a health food store are: progesterone creams and pregnenolone. These are all considered steroids but they are NOT anabolic steroids or androgens. So, the word steroid is like ?vehicle? composed of trucks, bikes, motorcycles and cars. It is a generic term that has no real meaning other than to classify a compound.
Under this is a class called Androgens, which are anabolic steroids that are derived from testosterone and its analogs. These testosterone derivatives are the typical suspects that one would see on the black market or in cancer patients. Products like ?deca? (nandrolone), equipoise (boldenone) or D-Bol (methandrostenolone) compose this class of drugs. Some anabolic steroids are sold as dietary supplements because they are not classified as drugs by the DEA. These are NOT legal however, since the FDA doesn?t recognize them as dietary supplements. The problem is that the FDA has a hard job in enforcing laws such as DSHEA. There is another class of legal products designed to increase levels of androgens legally and these are called prohormones.
Illegal anabolic steroids are classified into two groups: oral anabolic steroids and injectable anabolic steroids. Oral steroids have a 17aMethyl group which blocks liver enzymes and therefore can cause liver enzymes to increase. Often grey market anabolic steroids (ones not classified by the DEA, yet not legal by FDA standards) use this 17a Methyl delivery system to increase potency. This delivery method should be clearly visible on the product information as in the grey market prohormone 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol. This product is actually a prohormone but one that contains the 17a-methyl delivery system, making it liver stressful. Compounds that are in this category on the open market usual have a ?Halo?, ?Phera? or ?Drol? in their name. They are clone products of the products ruled upon by the FDA in 2005 as not being DHSEA compliant. Also, black market steroids such as ?D-bol?, ?Anadrol 50? and ?Winstrol? have this liver stressing delivery system. Injectable steroids do not share this liver stressing situation and they are not sold as supplements, since the FDA prohibits anything sold as a supplement from being injected however they are available on the black market as ?Equipoise?, ?Deca? and ?Test Prop? or ?Sustenon 250?. Injectables do not carry the liver stress of the oral pills, but they have their own set of issues like the need for often painful injections. Are these the best prohormone for the average guy? I think not, since they are either illegal or grey and are not always safe. I think the best prohormone is actually one that IS a prohormone vs. an anabolic steroid.
There is another option which I feel is the best product for the average person, which is a TRUE prohormone. PRO means precursor to, or converts into. Provitamin A (beta carotene) is a vitamin that converts into vitamin A via an enzyme system. These ?pro? drugs or ?pro? supplements are much safer since your body converts them to active constituents as they are needed. True ?pro? hormones are things that convert to testosterone and testosterone analogs in the body in order to be fully active. They do not carry the liver stress of the grey market steroids either which is a big benefit for long term use. Some pro-hormones are 100% legal by both the DEA and the FDA (complying with DHSEA) and will be outlined later. The FDA laws require that the hormone be naturally occurring and ALSO be sold as a dietary supplement intended for that use prior to 1994 (which is conveniently forgotten by many supplement companies). I will run down a short list of pro-hormones that are on the market and my opinion on their legal status and listing them in potency:
Relative Potency of TRUE Prohormones:

1-Androsterone (DEA Legal, Pending DSHEA Compliant) - Rating 10
** Search 1-Androstene-3b-ol,17-one
(best used for size and strength gains in cycles of 4-6 weeks @ 300-600mg/Day)

4,9 Estra-Diene (DEA Legal, NOT DSHEA Compliant) ? Rating 9.5
(best used for size gains in cycles of 4-6 weeks @ 300mg/Day)
** Search 4,9 Estra-Diene

19Nor-Androsterone (DEA Legal, DSHEA Compliant) ? Rating 8.5
** Search Norandrostene-3b-ol,17-one
(best for safe size gains in cycles of 4-6 weeks @ 300-400mg/Day)

5a-epiAndrosterone (DEA Legal, DSHEA Compliant) ? Rating 8.5
** Search epihydroxyetioallocholan-17-one
(best for cutting cycles and strength gains in cycles of 4-6 weeks @ 300-600mg/Day)

11-keto-Androstenedione (DEA Legal, Pending DSHEA Compliant) ? Rating 8
** Search Adrenosterone
(best for mild gains and mild fat loss in cycles of 4-6 weeks @ 300mg/Day)

4-Androsterone (DEA Legal, Pending DSHEA Compliant) ? Rating 8
** Search 4-Androstene-3b-ol,17-one
(400-800mg/Day)

1,4 Andro-dione (DEA Legal, NOT DSHEA Compliant) ? Rating 6.5
** Search Boldione
(300-600mg/Day)

DHEA Ethanoate Ester (DEA Legal, DSHEA Compliant) ? Rating 6

DHEA (DEA Legal, DSHEA Compliant) ? Rating 5
(500-800mg/Day)

Here are some good stacked items:
Ultimate Mass Stack

1-Androsterone + 4-Androsterone = Combination of wet and dry compounds for maximum gains
Ultimate Wet Size Stack

4-Androsterone + 1,4 Andro-dione = both can help you retain water weight for hard gainers who need instant “looks”
Ultimate Cutting Stack

5aEpiAndrosterone + 11-keto-Androstenedione = combination of anti-estrogenic, lipolytic and cortisol reducing effects
Ultimate Safety Stack

19NorAndrosterone + 11-Keto-Androstenedione = combination of mild prohormones
Ultimate Strength Stack

1-Androsterone + 5aEpiAndrosterone = crazy strength gains (use the 5aEpi right before working out)

[philbitty]

cliffs?

[airmike]

I think I saw a sailboat!

[blaise00]

cliffs?

hdrol = grey
dbol = black
etc...

[Eyayo]

this is from the lg sciences site

[Brandenburg]

this is from the lg sciences site

beat me to it!

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