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    MMA and lifting at the same time - How the F do you do it?

    First off, Im so out of shape its just sad.

    With that said, Im trying to juggle BJJ and lifting at the same time but cant figure out the best way to go about it.

    monday wednesday friday is with Gi from 5-6:30. Tuesday and thursday no gi which I prefer not to go to. Lifting schedule is m-w-f but I could change it.

    Ive tried bjj first then lifting right after, but Im too out of energy. Ive tried bjj 1 day and lifting the next but it feels like Im not giving myself time to recover leaving me sore as hell. Right now getting big is higher on my priorities so I figure getting a shake before lifting an hour before class then getting another shake would be best which Ill try soon.

    Something like:

    <2 pm - whey concentrate

    3-4 pm - lift

    4:30 pm - whey isolate

    5 pm - bjj


    I also only have 1 gi and cant keep washing this thing every day, so I might just have to substiture with no-gi for a while until I can get a second gi

    So what schedule works best for you?
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    Only when my whole day is free do I attempt to lift and do BJJ or MMA. I usually pick one or the other and alternate days.
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    I would lift in the mornings and then carb up.

    My current schedule is something like this:

    10-12: BJJ

    3-4: Lift

    6-8: BJJ

    I don't believe in protein shakes, so I'm drinking chocolate milk PWO and then eating as soon as I can. I'm not huge though by any means, but I don't feel dead at either workout.

    I also tend to nap at 1-2 ish.
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    I work 1130-8, Friday - Tuesday
    I workout before work, on a MTTF split. I do bjj (in one form or another) Monday-Thursday after work. Wednesday is a day I can double up on classes. Same with Thursday. As I train both JJ and BJJ plus no-gi
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    Originally Posted by TheClips View Post
    Only when my whole day is free do I attempt to lift and do BJJ or MMA. I usually pick one or the other and alternate days.
    Originally Posted by Croaker View Post
    I would lift in the mornings and then carb up.

    My current schedule is something like this:

    10-12: BJJ

    3-4: Lift

    6-8: BJJ

    I don't believe in protein shakes, so I'm drinking chocolate milk PWO and then eating as soon as I can. I'm not huge though by any means, but I don't feel dead at either workout.

    I also tend to nap at 1-2 ish.
    Both of these are great advice. You def need more protein and carbs to compete with the depletion you are experiencing with your training, for the recovery aspect. If you can't find time off to train with weights, then you need to put at least a few hours between weights and BJJ (both being fairly anaerobic) or you'll over train.
    Make sure you avoid hypertrophy routines too. In my experience that will just about tear your body up. I've experienced torn ligaments, tendinitis, chronic inflammation, etc. from doing this. I avoid it like the plague now, or do very little, being careful to be aware of what else I have to do that day. I focus more on "functional" exercises or sprint style weight lifting (not repping fast, but doing compound exercises in giant sets with little to no rest. Mimics the effect of a sprint for heart rate purposes).
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    eh, i would say lifting isn't necessary with your current situation.

    if you are out of shape you shouldn't be trying to bulk, when you can roll and go through class and find enough energy to lift, than you are ready. also, if you find yourself too sore the next day, try taking supplements. i take whey protein and usually im fine the next day. some kids at my high school take creatine and swear they aren't sore the next day.
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    Originally Posted by Croaker View Post
    I would lift in the mornings and then carb up.

    My current schedule is something like this:

    10-12: BJJ

    3-4: Lift

    6-8: BJJ

    I don't believe in protein shakes, so I'm drinking chocolate milk PWO and then eating as soon as I can. I'm not huge though by any means, but I don't feel dead at either workout.

    I also tend to nap at 1-2 ish.

    Most forms of sold protein powders are Whey's, which are derived from milk. There's no way I could get my daily protein requirement by simply drinking the milk. I wouldn't be eating anything else if I did.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    eh, i would say lifting isn't necessary with your current situation.

    if you are out of shape you shouldn't be trying to bulk, when you can roll and go through class and find enough energy to lift, than you are ready. also, if you find yourself too sore the next day, try taking supplements. i take whey protein and usually im fine the next day. some kids at my high school take creatine and swear they aren't sore the next day.
    once you're loaded, creatine works good to get rid of the lactic acid buildup.

    it wont heal you any faster, and if they werent taking it, they'd be sore for at least a couple days. creatine masks the soreness, so i'd wait an extra day before continuing till the body gets used to it.
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    try doing mma lifting and having part time job, fulltime you cant even squeeze in anything other then sex and sleep.



    im trying to get lifting but its hard
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    I do the Rippetoes routine which is 3 days a week of lifting. And right now I'm only doing 3 days a week of Judo (I hit two classes per day h/e since it's only 3 days a week).


    Mon: Lifting
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    Fri: Judo then lifting at night (A good 4 hours after Judo).



    Its sorta hard to balance all that with 18 hours of college, skateboarding, friends/family, and personal time.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    eh, i would say lifting isn't necessary with your current situation.

    if you are out of shape you shouldn't be trying to bulk, when you can roll and go through class and find enough energy to lift, than you are ready. also, if you find yourself too sore the next day, try taking supplements. i take whey protein and usually im fine the next day. some kids at my high school take creatine and swear they aren't sore the next day.
    Where did he say he was trying to bulk? Just because he lifts weight, doesn't mean he is trying to add muscle.
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    Straight off the bat I don't think you can really do it.

    After a few months of BJJ your body will be more use to the workload it's under and then you can get back into the weight room. I'm good for weights a few hours after BJJ most of the time (not a huge fan of weights first though)
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    Originally Posted by Dark Phoenix View Post
    Where did he say he was trying to bulk? Just because he lifts weight, doesn't mean he is trying to add muscle.
    i don't know what kind of weight training you do, but when i lift weights i bulk.

    whether it be intentional or not, lol.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    i don't know what kind of weight training you do, but when i lift weights i bulk.

    whether it be intentional or not, lol.
    What do you bulk to? 147? 148?
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    what do you bulk to? 147? 148?
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    Originally Posted by stasgolbom View Post
    try doing mma lifting and having part time job, fulltime you cant even squeeze in anything other then sex and sleep.



    im trying to get lifting but its hard
    I train, lift, work full time, and go to school part time. It's not impossible. But it does suck.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    i don't know what kind of weight training you do, but when i lift weights i bulk.

    whether it be intentional or not, lol.
    haha there are ways to lift to maintain strength and explosiveness without gaining significant weight
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    Originally Posted by Clark_Kent View Post
    What do you bulk to? 147? 148?
    ouch lololol

    well i don't really know right now, i haven't been able to lift in about 4 months.

    im walking around at 135 and around 6% body fat, all i can do nowadays is legs and abs.

    got surgery about 3 months ago and haven't fully recovered yet....dick =P
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    ouch lololol

    well i don't really know right now, i haven't been able to lift in about 4 months.

    im walking around at 145 and around 6% body fat, all i can do nowadays is legs and abs.

    got surgery about 3 months ago and haven't fully recovered yet....dick =P
    You aren't 6% body fat.. You might be 6% muscles mass, but you aren't 6% body fat.

    And your pic from July isn't exactly "bulky"
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    Originally Posted by Croaker View Post
    You aren't 6% body fat.. You might be 6% muscles mass, but you aren't 6% body fat.

    And your pic from July isn't exactly "bulky"
    haha okay dude, that pic is from before i started training MMA.

    and don't try to tell me my body fat percent, or ill bust out my purple belt in the ufc.

    i was 13% body fat 2 years ago when all i did was drink massive amounts of soda and play video games. im a freak of nature, stfu.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    haha okay dude, that pic is from before i started training MMA.

    and don't try to tell me my body fat percent, or ill bust out my purple belt in the ufc.

    i was 13% body fat 2 years ago when all i did was drink massive amounts of soda and play video games. im a freak of nature, stfu.
    You don't have muscle striation, you aren't 6% bodyfat.

    And why were you taking pictures of yourself in handwraps while you weren't training MMA?
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    Originally Posted by Croaker View Post
    You don't have muscle striation, you aren't 6% bodyfat.

    And why were you taking pictures of yourself in handwraps while you weren't training MMA?
    just because i didn't train doesn't mean i didn't spar and hit a heavy bag.

    this is the internet, where everyone can be an expert. so why don't you be an expert about things you know. like your own body fat percentage.
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    Originally Posted by 636 HunteR View Post
    Right now getting big is higher on my priorities so I figure getting a shake before lifting an hour before class then getting another shake would
    What is your diet like? If you want to gain lean muscle while doing a lot of anerobic/ aerobic activity you're going to need to eat a lot more. If you are experiencing soreness you should up your dark greens, water and vitamin C. You should also cut down on grains and lactose.
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    You just get used to it.

    I train 6 days a week, my own training and then either BJJ/MMA

    If I have a private lesson with my coach that makes it three times in one day.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    just because i didn't train doesn't mean i didn't spar and hit a heavy bag.

    this is the internet, where everyone can be an expert. so why don't you be an expert about things you know. like your own body fat percentage.
    tyler just go...


    you wrap your hands wrong, you cant even make a proper fist, and your punching sucks because you scraped all of your joins on your hands which makes me think you hit the heavy bag with no gloves... fail all around.

    also you are not 6% bodyfat i got better muscle saturation then you and im 12% so stfu.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    i don't know what kind of weight training you do, but when i lift weights i bulk.
    I put weight on bar. i move said bar. I repeat. Again, there are more types of weight training than just bulking.
    I am not trying to be better than you, just better than myself
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    just because i didn't train doesn't mean i didn't spar and hit a heavy bag.

    this is the internet, where everyone can be an expert. so why don't you be an expert about things you know. like your own body fat percentage.
    in your pic, keep your hands up son... even when your kicking or you'll get clipped
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    Originally Posted by HardGainer82 View Post
    I train, lift, work full time, and go to school part time. It's not impossible. But it does suck.
    This

    I do 2-3 BJJ classes a night, College part/full time (somewhere in between the two), lift 3x a week and have to make time for the woman and socialize a little. Lifting in the morning is great if you're a morning person, I'm just not a morning person at all despite how regular my sleeping is. For those who aren't the best solution is something like I do:

    Monday:
    School
    BJJ

    Tuesday:
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    night off from BJJ (since they only have 1 BJJ class that night)
    Lift

    Wednesday:
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    Thursday:
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    Lift since I finish rather early
    BJJ

    Saturday:
    BJJ

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    Originally Posted by Croaker View Post
    I would lift in the mornings and then carb up.

    My current schedule is something like this:

    10-12: BJJ

    3-4: Lift

    6-8: BJJ

    I don't believe in protein shakes, so I'm drinking chocolate milk PWO and then eating as soon as I can. I'm not huge though by any means, but I don't feel dead at either workout.

    I also tend to nap at 1-2 ish.
    don't believe in protein shakes?? Why? Could help your recovery out big time and increase your progression in strength and power.
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    Originally Posted by TylerManning View Post
    ouch lololol

    well i don't really know right now, i haven't been able to lift in about 4 months.

    im walking around at 135 and around 6% body fat, all i can do nowadays is legs and abs.

    got surgery about 3 months ago and haven't fully recovered yet....dick =P
    Forget your bodyfat, forget your abs, eat some cheeseburgers dude. That is just downright unhealthy.
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