If you had to pick just ONE intra-workout product to take DURING YOUR WORKOUT, what would be the best one?
Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!
(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take intra-workout products, if you should take intra-workout products, or why some intra-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite intra-workout product and give your detailed reason.)
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08-07-2008, 02:12 PM #1
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Best Overall Intra-Workout Supplement?
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08-07-2008, 02:24 PM #2
Here's two great threads that portray quite nicely how everyone feels about IntrAbolic...mind you the polls in the first thread got a little out of hand (they're private, so people tend to exploit)..but the posts are great reads.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=109105271
Here, with public polls, you can see how the voting changed.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6143631
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08-07-2008, 02:29 PM #3
I would pick AEN's Intrabolic as the premier supplement in the Intra-workout category. Simply put, no other products comes close in terms of formulation or quality of ingredients. When priced out for the amount of amino acids per serving, it is actually a very reasonable product with an incredible profile.
There is also a tremendous scientific backing for the product in terms of using study suggested optimal doses of ingredients to create the product. I am also reassured that AEN utilizes cGMP facilities to assure us that what is on the label is in the product.
I also believe it to be a very versatile product in terms of use. It can be utilized for both cardio and weightlifting amongst other applications. It can also be stacked w/ additional synergistic ingredients or paired with effective carbohydrate supplementation to truly give a powerful addition to one's supplementation.
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08-07-2008, 02:44 PM #4
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08-07-2008, 03:11 PM #6
FREE purple wraath samples here: (give it a try before you buy, bb.com also has free ones to add to your cart)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
incredible value at 90 servings per container
lots of amazing feedback (just scratching the surface):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=108679411
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3903493
just some quick feedback I found, this is part of thousands of quotes I could post up
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08-07-2008, 03:13 PM #7
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08-07-2008, 03:40 PM #11
Good to see, IntrAbolic's support is growing. There is NOTHING like it in the industry.
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Beta-alanine article- science meets real world results, in Muscular Development
Beta-Alanine compared to creatine
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08-07-2008, 03:49 PM #12
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My vote would definitely goes towards AEN's IntrAbolic. Not only do I think the product is of the highest quality, but it's also the most complete. I like the lack of stims such as caffeine as all to often people become dependent on them to make it through their day and their workouts. Eventually you become too tolerant and workouts can suffer. Not with IntrAbolic. From almost Day 1 to as long as you want to use it, Intrabolic keeps on working and continues to get better and better. I've used it and can honestly say it helped me not only with strength, but endurance as well. I continued to make weekly progress in both strength increases and endurance. If not for an injury I can only imagine how far I would have gotten. Add this with my other favorite, IntraXcell, and you've found the holy grail of intraworkout supplements. AEN is a top notch company with top notch products and I would highly suggest giving them a try.
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08-07-2008, 03:55 PM #13
for an aggregation of feedback, the master thread:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...wraath+awesome
some more very recent feedback:
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08-07-2008, 04:46 PM #14
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In my view, it really depends on what type of workout. If it is a Cardio workout, Purple Wraath kicks the **** out of everything out there, at least that I've tried so far. If it is a Lifting workout, IntrAbolic is so far ahead of everything else, they might as well call it the Best Overall IntrAbolic Supplement and then get everyone to fight over which flavor is best...
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08-07-2008, 11:48 PM #16
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AEN's IntrAbolic FTW :
IntrAbolic by AEN is a winner :
Well where do i start with this one......
I knew this product was going to be good as i have had good results from the IntraXcell and the Steel Edge but i didn't think it was going to be as good as it is.
To start with however the taste to me was a little bitter and not too good. I experimented a little with different amounts of water and scoop sizes and once i got this to my liking i really started to enjoy the flavour and now it is very refreshing through the workouts.
Throughout the couple of months of using the IntrAbolic my workouts have improved each and everytime and started to hit PB again. My stamina, endurance and overall strength increased quite dramatically over this time too. My Recovery times decreased and so felt as though i could hit the gym harder everytime.
I did however feel that the DOM's felt deeper within the muscle after the workouts and put this down to the IntrAbolic allowing me to push my self more throughout the workouts and so work the muscles harder. This been said however even though they felt deeper and a little more sore they only felt like this for the same length of time as i was before using the IntrAbolic, So it must have helped with recovery to get me back to the same level even though the DOM's where deeper.
I initialy used this for resistance training only but then incorporated it into my Cardio regime and my endurance improved quite dramatically. I started doing something called Commando Cardio twice a week also and used the IntrAbolic for this and it brought my times down drastically each time i did it until i got to the point i was doing the session within 35 mins (from a start time of 50 mins within only a few weeks) with a recommended time of 40 mins.
My overall view of the IntrAbolic is Excellent and the best Intra workout supplement i have used so far. It is now part of the Family and will be for a long time i'm sure.
This got a BIG 10/10 from me and still feel there is nothing out there at the moment to match it.Last edited by Mickfootie; 08-08-2008 at 06:55 AM.
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08-08-2008, 06:41 AM #17
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If you have a dairy allergy like me, or you are a vegan, then i think Core ABC is your best option behind Intrabolic. Even if you arent they are very comprable.
You get 10 grams of BCAA's per serving in ABC versus 8 grams of EAA's in Intrabolic. This does not include the AA's you get from Intrabolic's 7 grams of protein however, and both ABC and Intrabolic have a full 5g of free form Leucine per serving. The one thing ABC definitly has the edge on though is the fact that it has 2.5 grams of citrulline malate per serving. CM is a solid supplement that has improved many of my workouts. I also don't like the Vit C and E in intrabolic because preliminary studies have shown C may decrease atheltic performance when taken around a workout. As far as the E I simply dont want anymore than is in my multi (30 IU so intrabolic would double it) as having too much supplemental E over time may be unhealthy. However the amounts of both C and E in Intrabolic are likely insignificant.
Finally of note:Intrabolic does boast slightly more BA per serving (3.2g versus 2.5g in ABC)and electrolytes, but ABC has 2.5 grams of free form glutamine per serving (a controversial supplement I know but one that seems to help me, although i wouldnt pay for it by itself as it has shown to be seemingly worthless in most studies).
So because of my allergy ABC is an easy choice, however if you don't have an allergy you really cant go wrong either way.Peace and Love
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08-08-2008, 07:02 AM #18
Solid feedback and well thought out post. But remember, your body needs ALL the essential amino acids to build muscle, NOT just the bcaa's. IntrAbolic contains ALL the EAA's from the whey protein hydrolysate, plus the additional 8grams of free-form amino -acids, again including ALL the EAA, except tryptophan, which is in the whey protein hydrolysate. ONE serving of IntrAbolic contains 15grams of amino-acids, including all the EAA's.
Additionally,the short chain peptides(di-and tripeptides) that make up 70-80% of the the custom whey protein hydrolysate we use, are absorbed even faster than free-form amino acids, due to their gut transport system having a greater capacity than the free-form amino-acids transporters. Also, very interestingly, recent research has shown, that peptides, can actually increase the uptake of free-form amino-acids, making the combo the optimal choice for both speed of absorption and practicality, both of which you want DURING your workout. Yes, just another aspect of IntrAbolic, that separates it from ANY other, "somewhat' comparable formula and I use the the term somewhat, very loosely.
The research you allude to regarding AO's, is megadosing single AO's, i.e Vit C and is nothing like they are being used here, or relevant to IntrAbolic's formula. At this point, I think most of us know, it's not good to mega-dose single antioxidants regardless.
Regarding Citrulline malate, see my below previous comments.
Originally Posted by ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION
From an old post of mine
The evidence for CM on exercise performance with humans, from a research standpoint, is weak at best. There are two human performance studies, with the main study cited done back in 2002. When you look at this study closely, you will see they were testing finger flexions
For the internet, keyboard warrior,looking to increase their typing endurance, this study is quite relevant and could be very useful But for the typical gym rat, likely, not so much, atleast I hope.
The other study, showed improvement on aerobic performance on one test.
Now, I'm not saying CM is useless by any means, I would just like to see even ONE human performance study like we see with creatine, Beta-alanine, caffeine ect before we would base a product around it.
I know the common recommendation on bb.com is to say, take CM with beta-alanine, as they are good together. But I think if alot of these same people actually looked at CM's research and realized how weak it was, they may not hold CM in such high regard and be so fast to automatically recommend it when ever someone says they are using BA. It CERTAINLY isn't in the same league as creatine or beta-alanine at this point. Obviously the recent trend for many sup companies, is to throw CM in with BA. From a marketing standpoint it's likely a good idea, but from an efficacious standpoint, who knows at this point.
The core of our products are designed around ingredients that are strongly supported by research and shown to be effective in increasing performance. You wont see us jumping all over the most recent trendy ingredients, so we can have it on our label. So, at this point, until we see stronger research on CM, we wont likely be using it anytime soon.
Having said all that, atleast on bb.com, the anecdotal feedback on CM is pretty good and in NO way do I discredit this type of feedback. But, we still need more than anecdotal feedback to base a product around an ingredient, but it can certainly be used as an adjunct ingredient.Last edited by ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION; 08-08-2008 at 07:19 AM.
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08-08-2008, 09:02 AM #19
Holy spam. lol
Originally Posted by ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION
From an old post of mine
The evidence for CM on exercise performance with humans, from a research standpoint, is weak at best. There are two human performance studies, with the main study cited done back in 2002. When you look at this study closely, you will see they were testing finger flexions
For the internet, keyboard warrior,looking to increase their typing endurance, this study is quite relevant and could be very useful But for the typical gym rat, likely, not so much, atleast I hope.
The other study, showed improvement on aerobic performance on one test.
Now, I'm not saying CM is useless by any means, I would just like to see even ONE human performance study like we see with creatine, Beta-alanine, caffeine ect before we would base a product around it.Last edited by GAMEOVER-; 08-08-2008 at 09:06 AM.
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08-08-2008, 09:09 AM #20
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In that quote CM is Citrulline Malate
as you can see by the last part of that quote, he is NOT saying anything against creatine mono, also if you read his whole post you would see the sentence right before the quote you took from his post says "
Regarding Citrulline malate, see my below previous comments.
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Now, I'm not saying CM is useless by any means, I would just like to see even ONE human performance study like we see with creatine, Beta-alanine, caffeine ect before we would base a product around it.Last edited by SHOWTIME; 08-08-2008 at 09:18 AM.
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08-08-2008, 09:09 AM #21
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so many people bustingnuts over intrabolic.. craziness. ..
I enjoy purple wraath --- aminos get the job done intraworkout, and it is very cost affordable, especially since CL does sales routinely on most of their product line.
the earlier versions sucked horrible in taste, but i drank it anyway. and since they made newer ones, its pretty good in taste...i duno, thats not very important to me... it gives results assuming your training and nutrition are in align which is what matters most
intrabolic might be good and all, but at the price I wouldn't bother with it. i will hit up the free samples though, just because I always do whenever possible. wait, i just checked the link, its not really a free sample, you want me to write a review and all that..so its not really totally 100% free (time = money, you want a review, give an entire tub, not a sample.. besides, how do you get an effective review form 2 workouts? rediculous.. good marketing scheme tho fyi, lots of people at bb.com will gooble it up, i believe bodybuilders may be more naive that most athletes when it comes to PED's)
anywhooo, aminos intra workout all the way. purple wraath, xtend, bulk amino powder, whatever. its all relative, and cost efficient.
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08-08-2008, 09:17 AM #24
IntrAbolic has 2-3x the amount of amino-acids per serving and is a different formula, that is why it costs more per serving.
LOL, those are FREE samples for anyone and just like any company on here offering free samples, we appreciate a review. No review is required though. If the few mins it takes to write a review costs you that much money, than you must be a busy/important man and likely don't even need a free sample.
So, are you suggesting, we shouldn't offer free samples, eventhough we got tons of requests for them since 2007?
Take a look at the most respected board members feedback on IntrAbolic(first couple threads), there's a reason why it has the reputation is does.Last edited by ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION; 08-08-2008 at 11:18 AM.
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08-08-2008, 09:17 AM #25
good luck with your career... with post as ignorant as these, you will need it.
you are wrong in so many ways with what you say... AEN has given out a ridiculous amount of tubs for people to review already and given the quality and cost of IntrAbolic a sample is well worth the quick few minutes to write a review unless you are keyboard illiterate.
sorry, but posts like yours are simply unintelligent and ingnorant to reality.
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08-08-2008, 09:28 AM #26
simply not true, but since you brought it up, here is the comparison:
intrabolic
aminos = 160 grams
protein = 140 grams
ba = 64 grams
36 dollars per 20 servings = 9.9 cents per gram of actives
purple wraath
aminos = 630 grams
ba+cm+goodies = 243 grams
51 dollars per 90 servings = 5.8 cents per gram of actives
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08-08-2008, 09:37 AM #27
I wasn't being specific to your product actually, but yes, your price comparison is fine.
IntrAbolic is 4 CENTS more per gram of active and you are getting a FULL spectrum of ALL the essential amino-acids needed to build muscle, you are getting a custom over 30% hydrolyzed whey protein, which was more expensive for us than free-form amino-acids. You get a KNOWN amount of leucine per serving[5g] and you get a KNOWN amount of beta-alanine per serving {3.2g}
To the consumer, ask yourself is that is worth 4cents more per gram of active? To some it is, to some perhaps it isn't.
Regardless, IntrAbolic offers exceptional value for what is contains.Last edited by ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION; 08-08-2008 at 09:40 AM.
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