★Early bird fantasy football discussion 2019★

[HayZues Christi]

oh god. I don't know if I'd play those guys over Diggs

I definitely would not. Just list cheap/free RBs with good matchups.


Philly has a garbage secondary. Roll out Diggs, 7 for 120 and a TD. I feel it.


Carlos hyde maybe? Kc run D looked pretty iffy against indy. Hyde getting 15+ touches a game. Hes due to pop one.

[weightsb4dates]

oh god. I don't know if I'd play those guys over Diggs

Jordan Howard, chris thompson, maybe buy DJ Chark before he is a household name, michael gallup looks like the truth. news of AJ green being a potential target for the Patriots should add to his value for you. Maybe flip obj for Gallup or chark+rb2

edit: fwiw I would trade Diggs for chark straight up.
Maybe go after fuller on someone who is selling high on him.

[weightsb4dates]

just offered Juju+Michel for Barkley+R. Anderson, his record is 1-4, mine is 4-1 my wrs are pretty weak (I think this is a long shot but he needs an rb for this week because his others are on bye or also injured), Juju was my second rounder. But my rbs are fairly strong and i can survive without saquan for a couple weeks.

in the same league I offered Juju+Breida for Bell+D. Samuel to a 2-3 team

my wrs are very volotile in this league: Juju, Fuller, Gallup, D. Robinson
My rbs arent great either: Chubb, Michel, Breida, Singlecarry, Penny, J. Hill (rip), K. Hunt

Thinking i might offer JuJu+breida for Golladay+Hilton in the same league. it gives him to startable guys for this week, and arguably an upgrade over hilton in juju, golloday is the best guy in the trade imo. this might be a questionable trade as well but we will see.

Edit may also offer Juju+breida for Godwin+mixon, idk who would take this trade but i might float it out there anyways and hope my buddy isnt buying in on godwin

[Fiz-iks]

CMC DNP today. Reggie Bonnafan or whatever his name is could be a good speculative pickup in the off chance that CMC doesn't play. He has to endure an overseas flight with a wonky back.

I definitely would not. Just list cheap/free RBs with good matchups.


Philly has a garbage secondary. Roll out Diggs, 7 for 120 and a TD. I feel it.


Carlos hyde maybe? Kc run D looked pretty iffy against indy. Hyde getting 15+ touches a game. Hes due to pop one.

Jordan Howard, chris thompson, maybe buy DJ Chark before he is a household name, michael gallup looks like the truth. news of AJ green being a potential target for the Patriots should add to his value for you. Maybe flip obj for Gallup or chark+rb2

edit: fwiw I would trade Diggs for chark straight up.
Maybe go after fuller on someone who is selling high on him.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Going to send some offers out. I am feeling the Diggs vs Philly match-up though.

[Jayarbie]

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Going to send some offers out. I am feeling the Diggs vs Philly match-up though.

Honestly, I think Diggs vs Philly's MASH unit secondary is a pretty good play.

[HayZues Christi]

just offered Juju+Michel for Barkley+R. Anderson, his record is 1-4, mine is 4-1 my wrs are pretty weak (I think this is a long shot but he needs an rb for this week because his others are on bye or also injured), Juju was my second rounder. But my rbs are fairly strong and i can survive without saquan for a couple weeks.

in the same league I offered Juju+Breida for Bell+D. Samuel to a 2-3 team

my wrs are very volotile in this league: Juju, Fuller, Gallup, D. Robinson
My rbs arent great either: Chubb, Michel, Breida, Singlecarry, Penny, J. Hill (rip), K. Hunt

Thinking i might offer JuJu+breida for Golladay+Hilton in the same league. it gives him to startable guys for this week, and arguably an upgrade over hilton in juju, golloday is the best guy in the trade imo. this might be a questionable trade as well but we will see.

Edit may also offer Juju+breida for Godwin+mixon, idk who would take this trade but i might float it out there anyways and hope my buddy isnt buying in on godwin

After week 1 I traded cooper/t.y./james white for juju + fuller.


Lmao @ me.


Same week I also traded mack/Tyrell Williams/andrews/Hollywood for MT... brees goes down.

[Fiz-iks]

Green for Josh Gordon and play him over Diggs?

[HayZues Christi]

Green for Josh Gordon and play him over Diggs?

Until AJ green gets traded to pats and Josh stuck as a boom or bust flex.


I have AJ green in both my leagues. I personally wouldnt do it, but I'm not struggling to fill my flex right now.

[Fiz-iks]

Until AJ green gets traded to pats and Josh stuck as a boom or bust flex.


I have AJ green in both my leagues. I personally wouldnt do it, but I'm not struggling to fill my flex right now.

I was thinking about that, I'm not sure Gordon is enough of an upgrade over Diggs for this one week. Both are similar players in the sense that the usage is inconsistent, both have great match-ups. Brady>Cousins

hmmm

[hardestgainer]

Who is looking more valuable ROS in PPR, A Jones or D Henry? Anyone think Jamaal Williams still keeps taking touches from Jones after he killed the cowboys?

One guy is looking to trade away Mahomes and Hill and he is looking for a QB and RB (his RBs are Sony, Penny and Gore, ouch)so Im trying to decide which to offer first, since I dont want to give up Fournette. Leaning towards Jones just because Henry is more of a bellcow

[HayZues Christi]

I was thinking about that, I'm not sure Gordon is enough of an upgrade over Diggs for this one week. Both are similar players in the sense that the usage is inconsistent, both have great match-ups. Brady>Cousins

hmmm

I much prefer Diggs this week.


Why would NE need to be throwing the ball around? Bill B is 17-0 against rookie QBs. No saquon, no shepherd , no engram, no gallman.... 10 points wins the game.

Minny going to need to put up points.

[HayZues Christi]

Who is looking more valuable ROS in PPR, A Jones or D Henry? Anyone think Jamaal Williams still keeps taking touches from Jones after he killed the cowboys?

One guy is looking to trade away Mahomes and Hill and he is looking for a QB and RB (his RBs are Sony, Penny and Gore, ouch)so Im trying to decide which to offer first, since I dont want to give up Fournette. Leaning towards Jones just because Henry is more of a bellcow

I'd give up all 3 of those RBs for mahomes and hill. Srs.

[Tyler2106]

I much prefer Diggs this week.


Why would NE need to be throwing the ball around? Bill B is 17-0 against rookie QBs. No saquon, no shepherd , no engram, no gallman.... 10 points wins the game.

Minny going to need to put up points.

Terrible analyzes of the Patriots. Patriots aren't going to take it easy this week. Their offense isn't clicking the way they want and I can almost guarantee they put up 30-40 points which is more than enough for everyone to get theirs. Dorsett is out this week which helps Gordon get more targets. I don't know if Burkhead is playing either which would help. McDaniels said he's working on getting Gordon the ball more.

I much prefer Gordon this week over Diggs.

[Fiz-iks]

Who is looking more valuable ROS in PPR, A Jones or D Henry? Anyone think Jamaal Williams still keeps taking touches from Jones after he killed the cowboys?

One guy is looking to trade away Mahomes and Hill and he is looking for a QB and RB (his RBs are Sony, Penny and Gore, ouch)so Im trying to decide which to offer first, since I dont want to give up Fournette. Leaning towards Jones just because Henry is more of a bellcow

I'd offer fournette or henry as the main piece. Keep Jones for sure.

[Fiz-iks]

I much prefer Diggs this week.


Why would NE need to be throwing the ball around? Bill B is 17-0 against rookie QBs. No saquon, no shepherd , no engram, no gallman.... 10 points wins the game.

Minny going to need to put up points.

Terrible analyzes of the Patriots. Patriots aren't going to take it easy this week. Their offense isn't clicking the way they want and I can almost guarantee they put up 30-40 points which is more than enough for everyone to get theirs. Dorsett is out this week which helps Gordon get more targets. I don't know if Burkhead is playing either which would help. McDaniels said he's working on getting Gordon the ball more.

I much prefer Gordon this week over Diggs.

You guys are making this a really difficult decision for me. Good points on both sides

[Tyler2106]

You guys are making this a really difficult decision for me. Good points on both sides

His points make no sense though. Patriots aren't going to score 10 points and put the reserves in. Diggs has Kirk Cousins throwing to him and Cousins is historically terrible against teams above .500

Vikings are going to have to rely on the run and defense to keep them in the game. Patriots are going to stomp the Giants.

[hardestgainer]

I'd give up all 3 of those RBs for mahomes and hill. Srs.

I'd offer fournette or henry as the main piece. Keep Jones for sure.

He just accepted my Henry, Royce, Goff, and Andrews for his Mahomes, Hill, Penny and Hooper

Now my team will be:
QB-Mahomes, Kyler
RB- Fournette, Jones, Duke, Penny
WR- Adams, Amari, Hill, Fuller, Robby
TE- Hooper, Henry


Feel like Ill have a top 2 team in this 12 man league now

[Jayarbie]

He just accepted my Henry, Royce, Goff, and Andrews for his Mahomes, Hill, Penny and Hooper

Now my team will be:
QB-Mahomes, Kyler
RB- Fournette, Jones, Duke, Penny
WR- Adams, Amari, Hill, Fuller, Robby
TE- Hooper, Henry


Feel like Ill have a top 2 team in this 12 man league now

Wow. That's a great move.

[hardestgainer]

Wow. That's a great move.

Been in this league 6 years now, this is the first trade where I felt I flat out won it lol. He didnt even counter

[Jayarbie]

Burfict suspension upheld. Good. F him.

[HayZues Christi]

His points make no sense though. Patriots aren't going to score 10 points and put the reserves in. Diggs has Kirk Cousins throwing to him and Cousins is historically terrible against teams above .500

Vikings are going to have to rely on the run and defense to keep them in the game. Patriots are going to stomp the Giants.

How tf do my points make no sense? Pat's might score 40. With a few defensive TDs. Otherwise its dink and dunk ball control. Put nothing on tape for real teams to study.

Put something on it. Diggs will outscore Gordon this week.

He just accepted my Henry, Royce, Goff, and Andrews for his Mahomes, Hill, Penny and Hooper

Now my team will be:
QB-Mahomes, Kyler
RB- Fournette, Jones, Duke, Penny
WR- Adams, Amari, Hill, Fuller, Robby
TE- Hooper, Henry


Feel like Ill have a top 2 team in this 12 man league now

Beyond rape. Honestly everything you ever post about your league is suspect. Good for you.

[Jayarbie]

How tf do my points make no sense? Pat's might score 40. With a few defensive TDs. Otherwise its dink and dunk ball control. Put nothing on tape for real teams to study.

Put something on it. Diggs will outscore Gordon this week.

One thing I trust Tyler on is his analysis of the Pats. Your analysis applies to normal teams. Belichick will score 70 just because he can. I do think he's underselling Diggs, though. He should have a good game against Philly's secondary. The bottom line is that Fiz's choice is to trade for Gordon or just play Diggs, and I think I'd just play Diggs since there is no need for a move.

[HayZues Christi]

One thing I trust Tyler on is his analysis of the Pats. Your analysis applies to normal teams. Belichick will score 70 just because he can. I do think he's underselling Diggs, though. He should have a good game against Philly's secondary. The bottom line is that Fiz's choice is to trade for Gordon or just play Diggs, and I think I'd just play Diggs since there is no need for a move.

I guess maybe, because its the giants and they are 2-0 in SBs against the Pat's. However I'd still take the team that needs to score points and is capable against a subpar a secondary, than hoping the Pat's run it up out of spite.


Honestly Tyler didnt even make any analysis. Just said they would score 40 just because.

They are both + matchups. But given the choice between playing Diggs and keeping green or Gordon ROS, gimme Diggs and green.

[southpaw01]

Thinking of trading Mahomes and J. Gordon for Carson, Kupp, Rodgers but I think I can get more from someone else..

My team is

Mahomes
McCoy/R.Freeman
Jacobs
Kelce
M. Thomas
Sutton
Gallup

[Jayarbie]

Thinking of trading Mahomes and J. Gordon for Carson, Kupp, Rodgers but I think I can get more from someone else..

My team is

Mahomes
McCoy/R.Freeman
Jacobs
Kelce
M. Thomas
Sutton
Gallup

That's not a bad deal. Kupp is far more consistent than Gordon, and Carson takes the place of McCoy/Freeman,, so you improve 2 positions at the cost of 1, but Rodgers is a fine replacement.

[Jayarbie]

Tyreek is practicing limited this week, but I was listening to Dr Chao on Sirius NFL last weekend, and he said that the last part of his recovery is being able to take a hit, which is determined mostly by the doctors. He said until then, he can still practice almost in full because he's not taking shots at practice anyway and he can do everything else. Anyway, the point is not to get too excited about practice reports unless you hear someone in the organization actually say he's ready to play this weekend.

[Fiz-iks]

Thinking of trading Mahomes and J. Gordon for Carson, Kupp, Rodgers but I think I can get more from someone else..

My team is

Mahomes
McCoy/R.Freeman
Jacobs
Kelce
M. Thomas
Sutton
Gallup

Uhh you're not going to get more than that. Even if you were just getting Carson and Kupp I'd do that deal.

[Fiz-iks]

I guess maybe, because its the giants and they are 2-0 in SBs against the Pat's. However I'd still take the team that needs to score points and is capable against a subpar a secondary, than hoping the Pat's run it up out of spite.


Honestly Tyler didnt even make any analysis. Just said they would score 40 just because.

They are both + matchups. But given the choice between playing Diggs and keeping green or Gordon ROS, gimme Diggs and green.

This is where I ended up as well. Diggs and Gordon is a coin-flip and I get to keep Green.

[hardestgainer]

Beyond rape. Honestly everything you ever post about your league is suspect. Good for you.

I know, this has been a weird year with trades. There have been a couple really lopsided trades and its not like anyone is a newbie. We've been playing together for years. In chat he flat out said "I dont want Hill anymore", sounds like he got frustrated waiting out the injury. But I tried trading for Hill a couple weeks ago and he wanted way more lol. It helps both RBs I offered have easily outscored all on his roster and Goff threw the ball almost 120 times the last two weeks because of our leagues yardage bonuses in scoring but he didnt even counter.

Everyone in chat is talking about Veto'ing it though so Im guessing I wont be getting this steal to go through

[thefullmonte]

Wasn't aware DJ might actually miss time.

Didn’t practice today.

And as Tyler mentioned, you must not have seen Edmonds play.