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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post
    If you're in a prone area to disasters it makes sense.
    Tell us where a natural disaster cannot happen. Nor could any kind of terror type attack. Nor could anything toxic ever be released
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    lol I know, right?

    How many people have not needed their vehicle's airbag yet? Or really needed their seat belt? Smoke alarm? CO alarm? Fire extinguisher? Yet still have or use said item?

    hmmm
    Please stop. You just compared the frequency of car accidents and residential fires to the frequency major natural disasters...
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    Originally Posted by US_Ranger View Post
    Agree. For some reason people seem to equate being prepared to being a basement dwelling retard as opposed to just being prepared. I'm guessing it's the same type of people who run out of gas on the freeway after failing to realize they should fill up before going on a trip.
    They are on line at a grocery store the day before a blizzard comes in, at Home Depot the day before a hurricane comes in, etc, etc

    Last hurricane season in FL, I didn't need jack chit. I saw the massive lines at Home Depot. A lady shot some dude over a generator I saw on the news. If we'd been told there was a mandatory evac (very unlikely where we were but again, mother nature gonna mother nature) I'd have been able to go GF and dog (of course I'd identified the dog friendly locations!), it would have been a matter of grabbing my BOB.

    I remember well seeing the idiots fighting over a gallon of milk when I was in the NE and a major blizzard coming in.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Tell us where a natural disaster cannot happen. Nor could any kind of terror type attack. Nor could anything toxic ever be released
    Wow you and "US Ranger" would get along great. Please feel free...tell me what natural disaster in Central Pennsylvania is going to require a resident to flee their home with a seconds notice...it's ok, I'll wait.

    Terror attack = Big City
    "Anything Toxic Ever Be Released" = Um...1 this is a hilarious example. 2 unless you have a gas mask in your "BOB" just lol @ you.
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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post
    Please stop. You just compared the frequency of car accidents and residential fires to the frequency major natural disasters...
    Just stop. You just implied that a "major natural disaster" is the only reason one might benefit from having a bugout bag.

    Just stop. You just implied that a car accident or residential fire effects the same quantity of people as a 'Major natural disaster'
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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post
    Wow you and "US Ranger" would get along great. Please feel free...tell me what natural disaster in Central Pennsylvania is going to require a resident to flee their home with a seconds notice...it's ok, I'll wait.

    Terror attack = Big City
    "Anything Toxic Ever Be Released" = Um...1 this is a hilarious example. 2 unless you have a gas mask in your "BOB" just lol @ you.
    Ah, so you know where a terror attack could happen and could not happen. That's neat.

    And you never travel, well, that kinds sucks but to each their own.

    I guess you are unaware of various items that are transported around the country by truck or rail car, and are also completely unaware that an area could be evacuated as a result of a spill/accident/crash/release of a dangerous material. Just one of many possibilities.
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    No disaster could make my town worse, probs would do it some good.
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    Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    I personally know someone who thought he could ride it out in his house as no storm before had been an issue, and when the water got to high, he grabbed his bag and shot gun and hiked his way out of the city. He spent one night on the road, and next day made it to his friends place out of the city. He had what he needed not make an already chit experience a lot worse.

    He was able to avoid going anywhere near the bedlam that was the shelters etc, where all the "I can't imagine I'd ever need anything beyond the corner store" types went nuts. He also had some great advice on what had been good to have, and what he'd had i his BOB that he didn't need, and a few few things he's wished he'd had.

    Number one thing was "An extra pair socks" he said
    lol at extra pair of socks. But yes, people don't consider that there are situations where you will not be able to just drive away in your car. It's like they already forgot the gas shortage in Florida and hours on hours of traffic on the highways due to everyone evacuating at the same time. I'm in LA and normal traffic alone sometimes take 2h to drive 25 miles. God forbids we actually got 24h advance notice for some sort of disaster or attack. Probably easier to bike until you get to the mountains than to get stuck in traffic driving 5 mph out of here.

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    Most people don't have the sense of personal responsibility for this, they would rather pretend it won't happen, plan to take from others to get by if it does, or expect big daddy government to do it all for them (which is just another way of taking from others)
    I don't want to be harsh but given how little effort it takes, I'm glad that I will be more likely to get out of here in one piece while naysayers are stranded in LA when we do get that big earthquake that's a few decades overdue.
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    Originally Posted by TrinnieBuu View Post
    lol at extra pair of socks. But yes, people don't consider that there are situations where you will not be able to just drive away in your car. It's like they already forgot the gas shortage in Florida and hours on hours of traffic on the highways due to everyone evacuating at the same time. I'm in LA and normal traffic alone sometimes take 2h to drive 25 miles. God forbids we actually got 24h advance notice for some sort of disaster or attack. Probably easier to bike until you get to the mountains than to get stuck in traffic driving 5 mph out of here.



    I don't want to be harsh but given how little effort it takes, I'm glad that I will be more likely to get out of here in one piece while naysayers are stranded in LA when we do get that big earthquake that's a few decades overdue.
    If you have to walk anywhere feet are damn important, a good pair of dry socks and shoes/boots could be a really big deal to have. Anybody that has so much as gone hiking and had their feet soaked will know this
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Ah, so you know where a terror attack could happen and could not happen. That's neat.

    And you never travel, well, that kinds sucks but to each their own.

    I guess you are unaware of various items that are transported around the country by truck or rail car, and are also completely unaware that an area could be evacuated as a result of a spill/accident/crash/release of a dangerous material. Just one of many possibilities.
    There's a difference between being paranoid and being prepared. Just because I don't have a BOB means I'm not prepared...

    At the very least you are extremely amusing. So far ITT I've heard EMP Attacks, Toxic Attacks, and Solar Flares.

    I'll be sure to keep an eye out for those and I'll also add Alien Attacks, Dinosaur Zombies, and Normal Zombies to the list.

    Also you didn't answer my question about Central PA in terms of a natural disaster...it's because you can't. If there was a spill/accident/crash people could just stay in their homes or go to a friends.

    You're so stubborn to the fact that a BOB makes more sense for certain people and not all people. It's okay.
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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post
    There's a difference between being paranoid and being prepared. Just because I don't have a BOB means I'm not prepared...
    How are you prepared?

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    If there was a spill/accident/crash people could just stay in their homes or go to a friends.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    If you have to walk anywhere feet are damn important, a good pair of dry socks and shoes/boots could be a really big deal to have. Anybody that has so much as gone hiking and had their feet soaked will know this
    I added an extra pair of socks to my BOB after that
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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post
    Also you didn't answer my question about Central PA in terms of a natural disaster...it's because you can't. If there was a spill/accident/crash people could just stay in their homes or go to a friends.
    What if your whole town burns down because of a dumpster fire?

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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post

    You're so stubborn to the fact that a BOB makes more sense for certain people and not all people. It's okay.
    And you're oblivious to the fact that while a BOB might make more sense for some than others, it makes sense for everyone as no one can predict where and when they may need such a thing. Again, apply simple critical thinking:

    Risk/loss of having X and not needing vs needing X and not having it.

    It's really not any more complicated then that, unless one prefers denial and emotions over real T.
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    Just lol people calling other people 'preppers' for having a Bug out bag and spare extra mags.

    People dont know that in the mid 1800s a solar coronal mass ejection (CME) occurred that was so powerful, if it happened today it would permanently shut down power grids.

    if that would happen i would want to be away from society as fast as possible. I would absolutely not want to rely on FEMA or big government to make life decisions for me, as to how much i eat, what i have, what i have to give up (ie weapons, surplus food)


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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    How are you prepared?



    lol
    Solid rebuttale. Just to clarify. If there’s a spill near my home...I can’t get in my truck and drive 20-50-100 miles away to safety? I’d be better off with a BOB running through the woods with my extra pair of socks?

    Same applies for the post below about a dumpster fire just lol
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    I find it amusing how putting some basic things that I already own for camping or hiking into a bag equates to SHTF Zombie paranoia. It's just common sense and takes almost zero effort to do.

    The real point is that there's no reason NOT to do it.
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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post
    Solid rebuttale. Just to clarify. If there’s a spill near my home...I can’t get in my truck and drive 20-50-100 miles away to safety? I’d be better off with a BOB running through the woods with my extra pair of socks?

    Same applies for the post below about a dumpster fire just lol
    You can't put a bugout bag in your truck??

    Speaking of a strong rebuttal, How are you prepared?
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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post
    There's a difference between being paranoid and being prepared. Just because I don't have a BOB means I'm not prepared...

    At the very least you are extremely amusing. So far ITT I've heard EMP Attacks, Toxic Attacks, and Solar Flares.

    I'll be sure to keep an eye out for those and I'll also add Alien Attacks, Dinosaur Zombies, and Normal Zombies to the list.

    Also you didn't answer my question about Central PA in terms of a natural disaster...it's because you can't. If there was a spill/accident/crash people could just stay in their homes or go to a friends.

    You're so stubborn to the fact that a BOB makes more sense for certain people and not all people. It's okay.
    Hopefully if something natural, meteorological or whatever happens we will have on less dip chit in this world to worry about. If you have kids do you take spare diapers/wipes in the car or do you just expect your 2-3 yr old to hold it until you finish the 6 hour drive. You're a fuking idiot, we are using random variables it's a bag if anything out of the ordinary happens and no way is it being a prepper it's called be ready. When was the last time you checked the donut in your trunk I say donut as I know you don't have a full tire in there as you're against prepping for unlikely scenarios.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    You can't put a bugout bag in your truck??

    Speaking of a strong rebuttal, How are you prepared?
    Oh I dunno considering under my username it says “HUNT, FISH, RIDE” I’d imagine I’d grab my 9mm, compression sleeping bag, a hunting knife, etc...then hop on my quad and ride while wearing a gas mask. Obviously avoiding all major roadways because of the toxic spills. Then I’d duck into an underground cave to avoid the EMP Blast and ensure my electronics worked properly. From there I’d probably head out into the wilderness on my own making sure to have extra socks.

    Did that answer your question Dad?
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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post
    Oh I dunno considering under my username it says “HUNT, FISH, RIDE” I’d imagine I’d grab my 9mm, compression sleeping bag, a hunting knife, etc...then hop on my quad and ride while wearing a gas mask. Obviously avoiding all major roadways because of the toxic spills. Then I’d duck into an underground cave to avoid the EMP Blast and ensure my electronics worked properly. From there I’d probably head out into the wilderness on my own making sure to have extra socks.

    Did that answer your question Dad?
    9mm (what exactly?), sleeping bag, knife...please continue the list of items that will go into your BOB
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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    I find it amusing how putting some basic things that I already own for camping or hiking into a bag equates to SHTF Zombie paranoia. It's just common sense and takes almost zero effort to do.

    The real point is that there's no reason NOT to do it.
    What.. you're telling me that the fallout shelter I'm building under my apartment won't be any help?

    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    If you have to walk anywhere feet are damn important, a good pair of dry socks and shoes/boots could be a really big deal to have. Anybody that has so much as gone hiking and had their feet soaked will know this
    I was just laughing because it's actually useful and not something anyone would think to have. I haven't transcended to the level of "prepper" to attempt to run out of LA yet (though I can run for 10 miles without stopping so I'm sure that would help if it comes to it), and even I have decent hiking shoes and steel toed shoes just in case.
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    Originally Posted by meenman83 View Post
    Hopefully if something natural, meteorological or whatever happens we will have on less dip chit in this world to worry about. If you have kids do you take spare diapers/wipes in the car or do you just expect your 2-3 yr old to hold it until you finish the 6 hour drive. You're a fuking idiot, we are using random variables it's a bag if anything out of the ordinary happens and no way is it being a prepper it's called be ready. When was the last time you checked the donut in your trunk I say donut as I know you don't have a full tire in there as you're against prepping for unlikely scenarios.
    Lol you clearly didn’t read any of my previous posts. Half the people ITT think that:

    Not having a BOB = You are an idiot who is unprepared and doomed to certain death or hardship

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    lol fukking idiots. What's so hard to understand about preparing for the worst? Even if the bag doesn't raise your survival % by 50%, it will at least help 1% and that's alot in the worst case for you and your family.

    lol hard @ *******s who argue about the bag being pointless, it is more useful than having nothing. If you don't have this kind of things prepared, you will be the first one to die in bad scenario.

    Op just warning about miscers to be prepared if you have to survived outside. I thought those were common sense, guess not..........
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    9mm (what exactly?), sleeping bag, knife...please continue the list of items that will go into your BOB
    Sorry guy. Just because you’ve been amusing the hell out of me doesn’t mean I’m going to reciprocate. Maybe you can talk to one of the other guys about all the crazy things you can prepare for.
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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post
    Sorry guy. Just because you’ve been amusing the hell out of me doesn’t mean I’m going to reciprocate. Maybe you can talk to one of the other guys about all the crazy things you can prepare for.
    Strong rebuttal
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    Naive, stubborn, and simple minded.
    Pretty accurate definition of yourself repped.
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    Originally Posted by FreshStart12 View Post
    Wow you and "US Ranger" would get along great. Please feel free...tell me what natural disaster in Central Pennsylvania is going to require a resident to flee their home with a seconds notice...it's ok, I'll wait.

    Terror attack = Big City
    "Anything Toxic Ever Be Released" = Um...1 this is a hilarious example. 2 unless you have a gas mask in your "BOB" just lol @ you.

    they frac a ton in that area, I used to do it. Small mountain towns have definitely been given notice that an issue had happened. Nothing as crazy as an earthquake, but man made **** definitely can happen.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Most people don't have the sense of personal responsibility for this, they would rather pretend it won't happen, plan to take from others to get by if it does, or expect big daddy government to do it all for them (which is just another way of taking from others)
    much like all the people who say you dont need to carry a gun because youve carried one and never used it for 30 years... well I believe in theres that ONE day/minute/event in your life when you will need something and dont have it which is the difference between you living or you dying, Id rather have a gun on my hip or a bag in my trunk all the other days I dont need it.

    Your life is your own responsibility, how protective you are of it is your own business, but when that one day/minute happens, dont expect someone else will or can bail you out, sometimes in life you are just on your own.
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