Why the traditional Rippetoe/SS program sucks balls.

[Farley1324]

Yo is this program more preferred than the Rippetoe 3rd edition which is stickied on the teen bodybuilding forum?

This isn't really a program, exactly, as it doesn't include all of the necessary information

[Charlieeg]

What can you replace chin ups with for someone that doesn't have access to the equipment?

[PendlayRow8500]

Reverse grip Lat Pulldowns ?

[Farley1324]

What can you replace chin ups with for someone that doesn't have access to the equipment?

What do you have access to? A pull up bar is a very standard and arguably essential piece of equipment.

The lat pulldown machine mentioned above...I can't imagine a "gym" that would have a lat pull machine but not have the ability to do chins

[OcTwenty]

prob a stupid question but is this suitable for non teens? im 30

[Yngvild]

My 5rm for squat and bench are 135 and deadlift 225
What would be my starting weights for this program and how to progress on lifts?

[Farley1324]

My 5rm for squat and bench are 135 and deadlift 225
What would be my starting weights for this program and how to progress on lifts?

I would start at 115 for squat/bench and add 5 lbs to them per session.

195 for deads and add 10 lbs per session with them.

[atleastimtrying]

Im sorry but can someone trell me what MP is? it says MP 3x5

[Yngvild]

I would start at 115 for squat/bench and add 5 lbs to them per session.

195 for deads and add 10 lbs per session with them.

Also, read the first few posts of this thread

I take 115 and run them for 3x5?
Thanks man

[Yngvild]

Im sorry but can someone trell me what MP is? it says MP 3x5

It is military press or OHP

[atleastimtrying]

theres only one set of deadlifts? should there be more, or would that be enough?

[Farley1324]

Im sorry but can someone trell me what MP is? it says MP 3x5

If you don't know things like this you should be following a complete novice routine that lays everything out, not this, whatever this is

[atleastimtrying]

If you don't know things like this you should be following a complete novice routine that lays everything out, not this, whatever this is

mind pointing one out to me?

[Farley1324]

mind pointing one out to me?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=158406513


I don't have direct links at my fingertips for the others but there are always some good ones with a following and experienced guys answering questions in various forums. Starting Strength, all pro beginner routine, fierce 5, whatever

[tanlejia]

With this program, can I build muscle with this? As im aiming towards looks rather than strength

[Farley1324]

With this program, can I build muscle with this? As im aiming towards looks rather than strength

Building muscle is a matter of getting stronger (in a reasonable rep range, let's call it between 1 and 20 reps) while gaining bodyweight and eating enough protein.

[HYMENATOR]

With this program, can I build muscle with this? As im aiming towards looks rather than strength

You're 16, if you drink milk and jerk off 5 times a day you'll build muscle.

[wicker558]

@tanlejia Just use regular Stronglifts 5x5 with added accessory work, such as barbell curls, chin-ups, dips, some triceps work and of course rear delt exercises, preferably face pulls. Do exercise at least 3 times a week, as suggested in the original post, which is pretty good at summing up the bugs in routines like these. You will build your body and strength at the same time.

[merpmerp]

Do you think practicing doing body weight versions (with the exercises that are applicable) first are smart to just get the form down?

[Farley1324]

Do you think practicing doing body weight versions (with the exercises that are applicable) first are smart to just get the form down?

You get form down by working with the actual exercise. If it uses a barbell, you need to use a barbell (or stick...) to get the form down. And you have to use at least a certain minimum resistance or it doesn't really matter

So, no

[jb_alphamale]

Lol!!!

you're 16, if you drink milk and jerk off 5 times a day you'll build muscle.

[CrazeisFame]

Im mixing this with stronglifts5x5 but I cant do any pull ups/chin ups or dips YET. Alternatives? I'm doing barbell curls but thats all I can think of

[Farley1324]

Im mixing this with stronglifts5x5 but I cant do any pull ups/chin ups or dips YET. Alternatives? I'm doing barbell curls but thats all I can think of

You're doing what???

Most gyms have assisted chin-ups stations



You can also do negatives, jump up to the bar and then fight against falling back down.

Or you can simply use the lat pull-down





Something else you can do...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=158406513

[arsenification]

What kind of Row are we meant to do according to this program?

[HeMB]

A
Squat 3x5
Bench 3x5
Chins 15-20 total reps, add weight or use assisted.
Rows 3x5 SUPER STRICT.
Optional: Cable rows, 3x8 bicep work, 3x8 rear delt flyes, do this at your own discretion. If you don't feel like it, don't worry

B
Front squat 3x5
MP 3x5
Deadlifts 1x5
Optional: 15-20 reps of dips, 3x8 tricep work




Would not that be better or at least acceptable if chin ups were done on B days after deadlift? Because on A days it seems Rows and chins may overlap while on B days there very little back work, despite 1*5 deadlift

[HeMB]

A
Squat 3x5
Bench 3x5
Chins 15-20 total reps, add weight or use assisted.
Rows 3x5 SUPER STRICT.
Optional: Cable rows, 3x8 bicep work, 3x8 rear delt flyes, do this at your own discretion. If you don't feel like it, don't worry

B
Front squat 3x5
MP 3x5
Deadlifts 1x5
Optional: 15-20 reps of dips, 3x8 tricep work




Would not that be better or at least acceptable if chin ups were done on B days after deadlift? Because on A days it seems Rows and chins may overlap while on B days there very little back work, despite 1*5 deadlift

Bump

[Farley1324]

Bump

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=158406513

[Broverload]

Is Babylover anywhere to be found? I would like to use this routine but I have a few questions.

[Farley1324]

Is Babylover anywhere to be found? I would like to use this routine but I have a few questions.

There is always the real thing
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=158406513

He hasn't posted in years, and lacks specific direction(s) that many or most novices are likely to need, anyway