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    I guess I'm in the minority here, but I never do well with the full week away from the gym. Coming back, it always takes a little while to get things feeling right again and for the bar to not feel all that heavy under my normal loads. As boring as it is, i tend to take deloads as 50-65% of my normal training weight and work on technique. It's an opportunity to groove your motor patterns whilst not inducing any CNS fatigue from the heavier loads. This is only for me obviously, and others may do better with another strategy. Just voicing a different viewpoint.
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    Originally Posted by cls91 View Post
    Again, not trying to say that it's the only/right way to do it, but the 'general consensus' was to take the week off (preference from 3 of 4 people giving input)... which would really be 'as little as possible'


    Do whatever you prefer though obviously.
    +1 for take the week off.

    Also I like to go a bit "overboard" with my diet for the week....nothing drastic, but maybe increase calories 200-300 for the week to really rest and repair the body and I always feel strong as fuk the following week from the solid rest & increased intake.
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    Originally Posted by InItForFitness View Post
    +1 for take the week off.

    Also I like to go a bit "overboard" with my diet for the week....nothing drastic, but maybe increase calories 200-300 for the week to really rest and repair the body and I always feel strong as fuk the following week from the solid rest & increased intake.
    +1 again, just took week off, feelsgoodman.
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    Originally Posted by InItForFitness View Post
    +1 for take the week off.

    Also I like to go a bit "overboard" with my diet for the week....nothing drastic, but maybe increase calories 200-300 for the week to really rest and repair the body and I always feel strong as fuk the following week from the solid rest & increased intake.

    Interesting. Are you talking relative to maintenance, or just in general. Because if you stop lifting (lets assume that brings down your TDEE by 300 kcal or so), and then eat an additional 300 kcal, that's a 600 kcal swing from your normal intake; normal meaning target intake not TDEE...

    Today is day 1 of 3 for a 'mini' deload for me... was planning on keeping kcals somewhere between maintenance and target intake for bulk; although I have family events over the next few days so it's just going to be one big guesstimation anyways.
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    Originally Posted by cls91 View Post
    Interesting. Are you talking relative to maintenance, or just in general. Because if you stop lifting (lets assume that brings down your TDEE by 300 kcal or so), and then eat an additional 300 kcal, that's a 600 kcal swing from your normal intake; normal meaning target intake not TDEE...
    That's overestimating how much fat you would even gain in a week IMO. Whether you are lifting or not, the whole point of a deload is to recover. Food helps that
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    Originally Posted by themonkay View Post
    That's overestimating how much fat you would even gain in a week IMO. Whether you are lifting or not, the whole point of a deload is to recover. Food helps that
    I never said anything about fat gain...

    I just think that a 600kcal-1000kcal surplus is unnecessary. I don't want to sound like I'm putting words into Casey's mouth, because he never specifically said he was doing this...but if someone were already bulking, then stop lifting, and increase kcals further by 200-300... I think that's a bit more than necessary.
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    If I'm gonna deload, I'm not going to rigorously track calories either. Eat intelligently, but if it is a mental break then I think you should have allowances. I used to take full weeks off, but don't anymore. Just auto-regulate. Next week is the first deload I'm going to have taken for maybe the whole year. Combination of current schedule and very rigorous training routine has me thinking I'm at the peak of my overreaching and so a back-off is the right decision to move forward. Except in this situation, I'll usually just take an extra day or two off or go to a less intense routine (usually remove power work and reduce frequency a tad). During my last back-'off' I just went back to my previous workout routine. It was enough of a back-off to keep me going, but didn't fully clear my accumulated stress which this back-off should do.

    My training format is generally overreach > auto-regulate > acclimate. Basically, by overreaching your body is forced to handle newer/bigger workloads, but the auto-regulation is an integral part or you'll just get stuck within a cycle of fatigue.

    Also, I started to pull conventional again. Holy god, it feels good. I'm kind of sad to be deloading, because I was just hitting the point where I felt like it was time for a new PR. I may attempt it on monday and then start my deload after.
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    Brought my grip out to pinkies on the rings for bench. Felt much more explosive, although I know benching like this multiple times a week will eventually feel like hell on my shoulders
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    Always good to see Lee post now and again. You can gain so much knowledge from him and some others on the forums.


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    ^Form looks good to me, bro.
    Thanks man.
    I wasn't sure because I really don't know much about sumo pulls. That'll be my green light to go ham on them, lol.
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    Originally Posted by WMLifting View Post
    Thanks man.
    I wasn't sure because I really don't know much about sumo pulls. That'll be my green light to go ham on them, lol.

    I don't know much about sumo form at all, but it looks pretty good.

    Don't know how you pull with that wire dangling in front of you though... gotta tuck that underneath your shirt lol
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    Originally Posted by cls91 View Post
    Interesting. Are you talking relative to maintenance, or just in general. Because if you stop lifting (lets assume that brings down your TDEE by 300 kcal or so), and then eat an additional 300 kcal, that's a 600 kcal swing from your normal intake; normal meaning target intake not TDEE...

    Today is day 1 of 3 for a 'mini' deload for me... was planning on keeping kcals somewhere between maintenance and target intake for bulk; although I have family events over the next few days so it's just going to be one big guesstimation anyways.
    In general regarding whatever my current intake is, no adjustments for lower activity level.
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    Getting back into training after fainting this week and getting out of the E.R


    Weight is fluctuating ~179-181lbs atm. First real session back today, very discouraged at how heavy 365 felt.. but oh well.


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    2nd meet ever in the books! First ever w/ USAPL.



    Such a long day, but seriously so much fun. Anyone who's kind of on the fence about it or wants to check it out before registering for a meet - no, just go do it.
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    Don't know how you pull with that wire dangling in front of you though... gotta tuck that underneath your shirt lol
    It never bothers me. I always put it around my back when front squatting though because I always break the mic/volume buttons

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    2nd meet ever in the books! First ever w/ USAPL.

    Such a long day, but seriously so much fun. Anyone who's kind of on the fence about it or wants to check it out before registering for a meet - no, just go do it.
    Wow, good job! Pretty sure your deadlift is still higher than mine, lol.

    I always debated doing one. Everyone says to do it just for fun so I think I'll do it sometime here soon. Any recommended feds?
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    Originally Posted by illiniStrive View Post
    2nd meet ever in the books! First ever w/ USAPL.



    Such a long day, but seriously so much fun. Anyone who's kind of on the fence about it or wants to check it out before registering for a meet - no, just go do it.
    Good stuff, Congrats!
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    congrats illini! Always love watching your deadlifts
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    Nice meet Illini! 9/9 and a nice bump in your total, hard to ask for more.
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    Nice work illini



    Best push session in ages, got 90s for 5 reps x 3 sets (Down from being able to press 105s x 5 at the peak of my bulk)


    Felt best about my incline bench..165 x 5 (top set) considering that it's been my biggest weakeness..

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    ^^^ sik work



    Two pairs of adipowers for $287. Eastbay.com + Coupons.com FTW
    Thanks brotha.

    Two pairs?

    What colors?
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Thanks brotha.

    Two pairs?

    What colors?
    NP.

    One red, one black. Seems like a lot of sites have the red ones listed at $129 right now but black is still $199
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    Smh...


    Contemplating if I should even attempt to DL anymore.. just keeps getting worse.
    Knee hurt pretty badly today, so my strength off the floor was extremely weak.. but meh.


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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Smh...


    Contemplating if I should even attempt to DL anymore.. just keeps getting worse.
    Knee hurt pretty badly today, so my strength off the floor was extremely weak.. but meh.


    [youtube]PBuxRarnPzI[/youtube
    Switch to conventional until your knee feels better.
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    Erik, maybe try angling your feet a little more forward. The only time I get knee issues is when my feet are too far out and my knees can;t get out there with them.

    Speaking of conventional, I think I'm finally starting to get comfortable. upping my deadlifting frequency might be working.
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    I like conventionals at a higher frequency with less workload per session. Sumos I'd rather do once, maybe twice a week max. Also keeping my glutes lose helps me with lower back rounding on conventional. I'm going to continue progressing on sumo and eventually switch back.
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    Originally Posted by WMLifting View Post
    I like conventionals at a higher frequency with less workload per session. Sumos I'd rather do once, maybe twice a week max. Also keeping my glutes lose helps me with lower back rounding on conventional. I'm going to continue progressing on sumo and eventually switch back.
    Right now my competition pull is sumo, but it may change if I pull more conventional when I up the intensity. I've always sucked at conventional though, so the gap should close once I really get my form down.
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    Originally Posted by lee__d View Post
    Right now my competition pull is sumo, but it may change if I pull more conventional when I up the intensity. I've always sucked at conventional though, so the gap should close once I really get my form down.
    Same with me only minus the meet. I'll continue them through my cut and all probably and really try to hammer them in the spring. I actually am looking to compete this spring sometime if all goes well!
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    Originally Posted by WMLifting View Post
    Same with me only minus the meet. I'll continue them through my cut and all probably and really try to hammer them in the spring. I actually am looking to compete this spring sometime if all goes well!
    No doubt, bro, it's fun as hell.
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