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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    which states are still locked down? name them.



    what line of work are you in? serious question.



    disappointing to see the shift in mindset where more education is a bad thing. the decline of the US will happen for sure with this idiocracy. without advanced education, what do these people think americans should pursue as careers?
    The change in cultist to the anti-education party will be written about for decades once we rid ourselves of Trump and restore some sense of normalcy back to the GOP.

    Imagine thinking that education is harmful to a country...Unphukingbelieveable.
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    I don't understand what point you're trying to make. What does death % of testing matter? Isn't deaths per million really the only metric that matters? That will show how well the country is handling the virus.
    Yes, if the deaths are caused by the virus. Your position appears to be testing is critical to stopping the virus so % testing is a valid data point, right?
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    you can tell the morons above havent stepped foot into a college/university in over 20 years.

    they have zero idea what the reality of the situation is like at universities, but they probably dont care. hey white fellas, the college kids are gonna come for you too. and when they do, pound sand lmfao! when sillie screams like a bitch "muh blm, im an ally!!!"
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    Originally Posted by Mountaineer92 View Post
    you can tell the morons above havent stepped foot into a college/university in over 20 years.

    they have zero idea what the reality of the situation is like at universities, but they probably dont care. hey white fellas, the college kids are gonna come for you too. and when they do, pound sand lmfao! when sillie screams like a bitch "muh blm, im an ally!!!"
    You sound scared.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    You sound scared.
    And you sound unraveled...how does someone of your age and self declared intellect do that? He's a kid....what is your excuse?
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    why would i be scared? lmao im a minority, im good.


    old white man is fked. "muh blm im an ally!!" LMFAO! LMFAO!


    so long commiebazille!!!
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    I don't understand what point you're trying to make. What does death % of testing matter? Isn't deaths per million really the only metric that matters? That will show how well the country is handling the virus.
    In deaths per million the numbers look better for the US than most of those other countries as well. Its yet another metric that can be used, and people are only using them when its convenient for their argument. For the metric I pulled up, it was simply death per confirmed case, which is a metric that matters as well. When it comes to death, people who are on the left will shy away from deaths per capita and deaths per confirmed case, because total deaths (not adjusted for population, which you said should be done for testing) is a more convenient number.

    My point is that we've got all of this data available to us, and depending on the metric you choose you can paint a different picture. People are only pulling the metrics they want to fit their agenda, and disregarding others. If they stayed with that style of metric, it would be simple and straight forward. But people literally bounce back and forth, which is intellectually dishonest. We need all of the data, but we are not having complete discussions of what the data is actually saying.
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    will commiebazille come in here in another hour hoping 1000 people die today?


    did yall see yesterday it didnt hit 1000 like that old ******* was hoping for?
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    what line of work are you in? serious question.
    I've already said what I do many times on here. Why does it matter when it comes to identifying a dishonest argument that's agenda driven? Particularly the one where you contradicted yourself in the same damn post?

    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    Yes, if the deaths are caused by the virus. Your position appears to be testing is critical to stopping the virus so % testing is a valid data point, right?
    If you are going to use % of tests or tests per capita, why not stay consistent and use the same thing for deaths?
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    We need all of the data, but we are not having complete discussions of what the data is actually saying.
    The data is saying Trump screwed the pooch and now he's coming to screw the cat. Debate minutia if you prefer, but you can't escape that conclusion.
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    Originally Posted by Mountaineer92 View Post
    will commiebazille come in here in another hour hoping 1000 people die today?


    did yall see yesterday it didnt hit 1000 like that old ******* was hoping for?
    How many people have to die before you take your head out of your ass? That's the real question, son.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    In deaths per million the numbers look better for the US than most of those other countries as well. Its yet another metric that can be used, and people are only using them when its convenient for their argument. For the metric I pulled up, it was simply death per confirmed case, which is a metric that matters as well. When it comes to death, people who are on the left will shy away from deaths per capita and deaths per confirmed case, because total deaths (not adjusted for population, which you said should be done for testing) is a more convenient number.

    My point is that we've got all of this data available to us, and depending on the metric you choose you can paint a different picture. People are only pulling the metrics they want to fit their agenda, and disregarding others. If they stayed with that style of metric, it would be simple and straight forward. But people literally bounce back and forth, which is intellectually dishonest. We need all of the data, but we are not having complete discussions of what the data is actually saying.
    Thank you...statistics are only as valid of the method they were developed with
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    The data is saying Trump screwed the pooch and now he's coming to screw the cat. Debate minutia if you prefer, but you can't escape that conclusion.
    That's not what the data says, and I've already proven that and gotten confirmation. That's why you cherry pick data, to tell the story you want to tell and not the full story.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    How many people have to die before you take your head out of your ass? That's the real question, son.

    And how is it helpful for someone to root for a threshold of people dying to declare victory in a debate? Your message is received, however it could be heard with more clarity if you would drop the political overtones.
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    Originally Posted by Mountaineer92 View Post
    will commiebazille come in here in another hour hoping 1000 people die today?


    did yall see yesterday it didnt hit 1000 like that old ******* was hoping for?
    960 ppl died yesterday you selfish dope.
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    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    But his point is valid...the question is why with the wealth of our country, a valid question IMO
    It takes longer to get to more tests per capita when you have 350 million people compared to 5-50. The only 2 countries with somewhat bigger populations are Russia with 145 million, and Spain with 45 million and USA is quickly catching up to them in terms of per capita. The other countries currently ahead are either microcountries, islands, or a country of 5 million people like Denmark.

    In terms of test, USA will have done more than twice tests than the next closest country Russia.
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    Originally Posted by maverickTT1 View Post
    It takes longer to get to more tests per capita when you have 350 million people compared to 5-50.
    Good point, and time to result after testing needs to be understood better I think
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    Originally Posted by trancecel View Post
    hurr durr 130k is good guys

    meanwhile Taiwan had 7 deaths.

    7.

    I guess having a VP who is an epidemiologist helps a lot vs having one who gives a 5 min speech denying evolution.

    GOP = antiscience party

    Lol. A doctor in the video posted here about the "COVID cure" talked about this. Taiwan, and other Asian countries treat their COVID patients differently. Instead of hooking them up to ventilators, they give them inhaleable corticosteroids.

    The low death rate in Asia is due to different treatment protocols for COVID patients. Not much else.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lmfao

    > 50% of your party boyo. EMBRACE IT!

    Hell, you yourself are a mask denier so you fit in with the anti-science crowd.

    lmfao
    Bill Nye decided to speak to the dumb anti mask crowd directly with this 2 min video.

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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    what's the source of your data?
    statista.com but I can give you the IMF projections if you prefer:
    Italy: -12.8% https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/ITA
    France: -12.5% https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/FRA
    Spain: -12.8% https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/ESP
    Greece: -10% https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/GRC
    Sweden: -6.8% https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/SWE

    also , to group countries like France, Spain, and Italy - all who had massive outbreaks and overrun hospital facilities and had no choice but to take drastic measures to slow the transmission - alongside countries like Sweden that did not have the same scale of outbreak - is being dishonest and hypocritical.
    Italy had outbreaks that were very geographically localized,


    therefore there was no reason to close the whole country down. Interestingly now that the pandemic has run out of steam in Italy and they are reviewing their practices, this issues has been brought out very seriously by people who know more about it than you looking at it from the other side of the world with just some web links to go by to form your "informed" opinion.
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    I've already said what I do many times on here. Why does it matter when it comes to identifying a dishonest argument that's agenda driven? Particularly the one where you contradicted yourself in the same damn post?
    because it's relevant to understanding how data is analyzed and used to draw conclusions and make business decisions. there is no "one metric fits all" approach and even when analyzing the same problem you can look at both per capita numbers as well as raw numbers and other various analyses as there are learnings when looking at different slices and segments of the data.

    if you were in a career where this kind of analysis was done like management consulting or business analysis or technology, etc - you would see the value of this sort of analysis.
    if you're not in that kind of career you'll whine and complain about "changing to fit the narrative hurr durr" and just expose your lack of knowledge of the topic

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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    In deaths per million the numbers look better for the US than most of those other countries as well. Its yet another metric that can be used, and people are only using them when its convenient for their argument. For the metric I pulled up, it was simply death per confirmed case, which is a metric that matters as well. When it comes to death, people who are on the left will shy away from deaths per capita and deaths per confirmed case, because total deaths (not adjusted for population, which you said should be done for testing) is a more convenient number.

    My point is that we've got all of this data available to us, and depending on the metric you choose you can paint a different picture. People are only pulling the metrics they want to fit their agenda, and disregarding others. If they stayed with that style of metric, it would be simple and straight forward. But people literally bounce back and forth, which is intellectually dishonest. We need all of the data, but we are not having complete discussions of what the data is actually saying.
    The US is 9th worst in the phuking world in deaths per capita, and we'll end up 5th worst by the election. In what clown world is that "good" by any measure?

    Oh and we're worst in total deaths by about 3x our nearest competitor.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    The US is 9th worst in the phuking world in deaths per capita, and we'll end up 5th worst by the election. In what clown world is that "good" by any measure?

    Oh and we're worst in total deaths by about 3x our nearest competitor.

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    Total deaths are insignificant. You have to compare us to western nations due to diversity and culture. Sheesh you're dumb.
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    Texas: continued increasing positivity rate, hospitalizations and fatalities.



    +15% positivity rate...for a test that is about 60% sensitive and has a very low false positive rate, that means about 25% of those seeking testing have COVID.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Total deaths are insignificant. You have to compare us to western nations due to diversity and culture. Sheesh you're dumb.
    WTF does "diversity" have to do with anything?

    god you people are pathetic. 9th worst in the world, soon to be 5th, is pathetic.

    Does that make you proud to be an American?

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    WTF does "diversity" have to do with anything?

    god you people are pathetic. 9th worst in the world, soon to be 5th, is pathetic.

    Does that make you proud to be an American?

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    [QUOTE=ceizer1985;1610170701]960 ppl died yesterday you selfish dope.[/QUOTE

    its sad to see. but people are hoping and wishing it was higher than that.
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    [QUOTE=Mountaineer92;1610179041]
    Originally Posted by ceizer1985 View Post
    960 ppl died yesterday you selfish dope.[/QUOTE

    its sad to see. but people are hoping and wishing it was higher than that.
    It is unfortunate, but let's not forget that Conservatives Misers were celebrating when people were dying in New York, New Jersey and other blue states. Conservatives Misers are the most Anti-American people on earth.
    Liberals wanted Texas, Arizona, and Florida to stay locked down to save the lives of morons who are too stupid to try and save their own lives.
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    [QUOTE=Sal29;1610180151]
    Originally Posted by Mountaineer92 View Post

    It is unfortunate, but let's not forget that Conservatives Misers were celebrating when people were dying in New York, New Jersey and other blue states. Conservatives Misers are the most Anti-American people on earth.
    Liberals wanted Texas, Arizona, and Florida to stay locked down to save the lives of morons who are too stupid to try and save their own lives.
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