BREAKING: Docs reveal Biden admin authorized use of deadly force in Mar-a-Lago raid

[miscinbro]

Objectively, they are. I don’t really care about the “deadly force” listed in the document. The entire raid is an entirely different set of rules. He’ll, Clinton used a home server and destroyed all subpoenaed evidence. Her entire team got immunity and Comey, who had no prosecutorial authority, made the unilateral decision that no reasonable prosecutor would charge her with a crime.

When has trump and people in his orbit EVER bern treated like that?

So you’re arguing that Trump - a private citizen at that point - should be able to have thousands of classified documents that he wasn’t allowed to take with him just strewn around his Florida resort … because Clinton?

What the government can never get them back? Some of them were undoubtably originals - it’s not like some of these documents are saved on a dozen USB drives.

[dakensta]

Surely everyone in the whole damn USA is entitled to use deadly force when necessary?

[BlackJack619]

Biden needs to win at all cost now, because if he doesn’t. Trump will probably do exactly what Biden is currently doing.

[miscinbro]

Crazy that people think Trump is getting special treatment when we all saw this happen in real time with Clinton. Ftr - I don't think Clinton or Trump should have been charged with anything. Way more important things to worry about.

We aren’t talking about charges, we are talking about thousands of classified documents that a fcking janitor could read.

[dabbmw2002]

We aren’t talking about charges, we are talking about thousands of classified documents that a fcking janitor could read.

So when is Biden being charged for his documents in the garage? Or Clinton for having a server that any competent state actor could hack?

Save the fake outrage.

[Seatard]

Surely everyone in the whole damn USA is entitled to use deadly force when necessary?

Except anywhere with the lingering scent of the orange man, where you will abandon all reality and show some fukking respect.

[Stizzel]

So when is Biden being charged for his documents in the garage? Or Clinton for having a server that any competent state actor could hack?

Save the fake outrage.

Merrick Garland wouldnt even authorize 'standard procedure' for the fbi raid on the unibomber

To plant fake documents on a former president though? Go in guns blazin' boys!

[Seatard]

Biden needs to win at all cost now, because if he doesn’t. Trump will probably do exactly what Biden is currently doing.

We elected him to do that the first time but he punked out on day one. Maybe this time will be different...

[miscinbro]

So when is Biden being charged for his documents in the garage? Or Clinton for having a server that any competent state actor could hack?

Save the fake outrage.

WHATABOUT!!!

And don’t talk about Biden, he had a couple boxes he handed over immediately.

So, why didn’t Trump hand them over?

[dabbmw2002]

WHATABOUT!!!

And don’t talk about Biden, he had a couple boxes he handed over immediately.

So, why didn’t Trump hand them over?

So we have two standards? What about muh dik.

[Stizzel]

WHATABOUT!!!

And don’t talk about Biden, he had a couple boxes he handed over immediately.

So, why didn’t Trump hand them over?

Biden had those documents for decades. Thats not immediately

[miscinbro]

So we have two standards? What about muh dik.

Seems like one standard is hand them over and the other is … not hand them over.

So - again - what didn’t Trump hand them over? He was asked many times.

[miscinbro]

Biden had those documents for decades. Thats not immediately

Biden handed them over willingly. Why didn’t Trump?

[dabbmw2002]

Seems like one standard is hand them over and the other is … not hand them over.

So - again - what didn’t Trump hand them over? He was asked many times.

I believe they were negotiating, but you already know that. Keep up the faux outrage, you're exposing yourself

[miscinbro]

I believe they were negotiating, but you already know that.

Link to said “negation?” And what’s to negotiate? He left office Jan. 20 2021 at which point he was required to return all classified documents. The government started trying to get them back at that point and it wasn’t until Aug. 8 2022 that the raid took place. So for over a year and a half he refused to return them - at which point they took them.

So - why didn’t he return them?

[Stizzel]

Biden handed them over willingly. Why didn’t Trump?

Biden cooperated when caught but he could have willingly handed them over in the 70's, or any time between now and then, or just not steal them in the first place and he didnt.

[miscinbro]

Biden cooperated when caught but he could have willingly handed them over in the 70's, or any time between now and then, or just not steal them in the first place and he didnt.

Why didn’t Trump return them?

[John L]

Since youre an anchor baby (ded srs) remember one important fact, your mother fuked and sucked who knows how many cawks in order to get you across the border so you could grow up next to that person/her kids in the pic, as thats the safest and single greatest thing to have happen to you. Because staying put and growing up in the country built by your father/countryman would most certainly have led to a life of poverty/crime and rape.

You wouldn't be posting memes right now, but instead robbing little la anciana in the calles.

[rampagefc77]

So you’re arguing that Trump - a private citizen at that point - should be able to have thousands of classified documents that he wasn’t allowed to take with him just strewn around his Florida resort … because Clinton?

What the government can never get them back? Some of them were undoubtably originals - it’s not like some of these documents are saved on a dozen USB drives.

Were they classified, or was his memo broadly declassifying everything related to spygate sufficient to declassify them?

Was he not allowed to have them, or did he hassle a right to documents he declassified?

Seems like issues for a court. The problem is, Nara has lost those battles with past presidents. Hence the need to escalate it to a matter of “national security” as justification.


If documents exist that outline weaponization to attack a campaign and president, showing corruption of our agencies (of which we’ve already seen some and most in powers to see them say there are far more egregious things that could be released), do our intel agencies get to just constantly sweep them up in one investigation after another to avoid disclosure? Or hide behind sources and methods to avoid ever admitting how corrupt they are to the American people? To the point where even a former president who declassified the documents must be raided and attempt to jail him over it?

[bezarker]

You're talking out of your ass and don't know a fucking thing about me, I'm fucking surprised you didn't call me a dreamer too.

you fucking twat

[Stizzel]

Why didn’t Trump return them?

Whataboutism

[miscinbro]

Were they classified, or was his memo broadly declassifying everything related to spygate sufficient to declassify them?

Part 3. Declassification and Downgrading

Sec. 3.1. Authority for Declassification.

(a) Information shall be declassified as soon as it no longer meets the standards for classification under this order.

(b) It is presumed that information that continues to meet the classification requirements under this order requires continued protection. In some exceptional cases, however, the need to protect such information may be outweighed by the public interest in disclosure of the information, and in these cases the information should be declassified. When such questions arise, they shall be referred to the agency head or the senior agency official. That official will determine, as an exercise of discretion, whether the public interest in disclosure outweighs the damage to the national security that might reasonably be expected from disclosure. This provision does not:

(1) amplify or modify the substantive criteria or procedures for classification; or

(2) create any substantive or procedural rights subject to judicial review.

(c) If the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office determines that information is classified in violation of this order, the Director may require the information to be declassified by the agency that originated the classification. Any such decision by the Director may be appealed to the President through the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. The information shall remain classified pending a prompt decision on the appeal.

https://www.archives.gov/about/laws/appendix/12958.html

[NYPat]

Aaaaand you wont answer the question because an honest answer blows up the legitimacy of the raid. Thanks for playing.

Btw - wgaf what dumbass MTG says. Nothing to do with anything.

It doesn't at all. And lol at "raid". All Trump had to do was cooperate like every other politician did and he could have avoided getting STANDARD TREATMENT.

And MTG represents your party. The party who blocks border bills and every other bill that is good for this country.

[miscinbro]

Whataboutism

What is this? You get cornered and you see people using this term so you’re like “ohhhh I know - I’ll use it too!”

We are talking about trump. If he had handed them over in the over year and a half span he wouldn’t have been raided.

So, why didn’t Trump hand them over?

[NYPat]

Just leaving this here again.

Are you “conservatives” now arguing LEO can’t use deadly force in the face of imminent danger of death or serious injury?

But bro! This was a former president with Secret Service protection! He's IMMUNE from everything!!!

[Phil9]

Surely everyone in the whole damn USA is entitled to use deadly force when necessary?

Everyone but the places where the affluent reside apparently.

You're talking out of your ass and don't know a fucking thing about me, I'm fucking surprised you didn't call me a dreamer too.

you fucking twat

Phucking LOL'd.

[NYPat]

What is this? You get cornered and you see people using this term so you’re like “ohhhh I know - I’ll use it too!”

We are talking about trump. If he had handed them over in the over year and a half span he wouldn’t have been raided.

So, why didn’t Trump hand them over?

Dude we have to justify the differences between Clinton and Trump in order to even discuss the injustice that happened to Trump... even though Trump was the ONLY one who whined on Truth Social about his unfair treatment that almost got him murdered.

[miscinbro]

Dude we have to justify the differences between Clinton and Trump in order to even discuss the injustice that happened to Trump... even though Trump was the ONLY one who whined on Truth Social about his unfair treatment that almost got him murdered.

Trouble for them is, intellectual integrity makes this easy. The Clinton emails seem pretty shady to me. It’s like not being a pathological liar and having to keep all the lies straight.

[Stizzel]

What is this? You get cornered and you see people using this term so you’re like “ohhhh I know - I’ll use it too!”

We are talking about trump. If he had handed them over in the over year and a half span he wouldn’t have been raided.

So, why didn’t Trump hand them over?

You said

"(Biden) had a couple boxes he handed over immediately."

This is what I am talking about. Now all of a sudden you want to fixate on Trump.

Curious

[miscinbro]

You said

"(Biden) had a couple boxes he handed over immediately."

This is what I am talking about. Now all of a sudden you want to fixate on Trump.

Curious

I was always talking about Trump. Whataboutism is bringing up Biden.

So - why didn’t Trump turn them over?