Future President Ted Cruz: Republicans MUST use fillibuster to defund Obamacare

[sawoobley]

The dudes not going to get any votes if moves away from cheap health insurance bruh. Obama care one of the main reasons Obama got re elected. Health insurance is expensive, more and more firms are removing coverage, health insurance can easily bankrupt you. The most precious asset to a voter is their health.

Unfortunately the government is not going to provide cheap, quality health insurance long term. Can you imagine a scenario where thousands of bureaucrats get in between you and your doctor and in which an insurance company is involved in all your health care and it is somehow cheaper than paying for it yourself? I understand the need for catastrophic coverage. Even in having insurance. But getting the government involved is a terrible idea.

[gachase21]

Taking something people can't afford and making the cost of it more expensive, even if it isn't as expensive out of pocket for some people, is not a good solution.

Don't get the term "affordable healthcare" confused with the idea that the real cost of healthcare actually got cheaper.

Regardless, until the republicans gain the White House and more seats in the Senate, the fight is over for Obamacare IMO. As far as healthcare they could fight to make changes that actually make the real cost of healthcare less for now.(reduce liability cost from bs malpractice, open competition more, etc)

[repos]

Taking something people can't afford and making the cost of it more expensive, even if it isn't as expensive out of pocket for some people, is not a good solution.

Don't get the term "affordable healthcare" confused with the idea that the real cost of healthcare actually got cheaper.

Regardless, until the republicans gain the White House and more seats in the Senate, the fight is over for Obamacare IMO. As far as healthcare they could fight to make changes that actually make the real cost of healthcare less for now.(reduce liability cost from bs malpractice, open competition more, etc)

exactly. smart man. Republicans need to focus on improving Obamacare, making it more efficient. They need to be more diplomatic not so abrasive.

[sawoobley]

Republicans need to focus on improving Obamacare, making it more efficient. They need to be more diplomatic not so abrasive.

hahaha, good one. We'll give the government control over a large part of our lives and the economy and they will act with great restraint and efficiency.



I'm dying here. lol

[CalmWind]

Born in Canada. Cannot be President.

If we are going to change rules to let someone be President, we should have done it for this guy:

[gachase21]

exactly. smart man. Republicans need to focus on improving Obamacare, making it more efficient. They need to be more diplomatic not so abrasive.

Yes, until we can take over the White House and Senate, then repeal it

As far as Cruz, Paul, etc as presidential candidates , please no. No Senator as a candidate. Lets pick a Governor please.

[sawoobley]

51% Favor Government Shutdown Until Congress Cuts Health Care Funding
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...h_care_funding

But 58% favor a federal budget that cuts spending, while only 16% prefer one that increases spending. Twenty-one percent (21%) support a budget that keeps spending levels about the same.

This helps explain why 53% would rather have a partial government shutdown until Democrats and Republicans can agree on what spending to cut. Thirty-seven percent (37%) would prefer instead that Congress avoid a shutdown by authorizing spending at existing levels as the president has proposed.

Some conservative Republicans in both the House and Senate are refusing to approve a budget unless it slows or stops funding for the health care law, but the president and most congressional Democrats are adamantly opposed to any such cuts. However, 51% of voters favor having a partial government shutdown until Democrats and Republicans agree on what spending for the health care law to cut. Forty percent (40%) would rather avoid a government shutdown by authorizing spending for the health care law at existing levels.

Most voters continue to dislike the health care law, and 54% expect it to increase, not reduce, health care costs. From the beginning of the debate over the law four years ago, voters have consistently said that cost is their number one health care concern.

Under the health care law, uninsured Americas are required to have health insurance by January 1, and failure to do so could result in sizable penalties. Now that the president has delayed implementation of the employer mandate portion of his new national health care law, 56% of voters think he also should delay the requirement that every American buy or obtain health insurance.

The president sounded similar dire economic warnings before the so-called sequester automatic budget cuts kicked in March 1, but even after some highly publicized flight delays that were blamed on the sequester, just 24% of voters felt government spending was cut too much. Forty-four percent (44%) said spending wasn't cut enough. Now, interestingly, the president is proposing continuing federal spending at least in the short term at the lower levels set by the sequester.

Fifty-six percent (56%) of Americans think that when government agencies are forced to cut their budgets, they generally cut popular programs first to make the cuts seem more significant.

Democrats are far more concerned about the prospects of a government shutdown than Republicans and unaffiliated voters are. Seventy-nine percent (79%) of voters in the president's party think a partial shutdown would be bad for the economy, but just 40% of GOP voters and 48% of those not affiliated with either of the major parties agree. But then 78% of Republicans and 64% of unaffiliateds favor a federal budget that cuts spending, a view shared by just 34% of Democrats.

Sixty-three percent (63%) of Democrats agree with the president and would prefer to avoid a shutdown by authorizing spending at existing levels. Seventy-four percent (74%) of Republicans and 62% of unaffiliated voters would rather have a shutdown until the two sides can agree on what spending to cut.

Similarly, 78% of GOP voters and 57% of unaffiliateds like the idea of a partial shutdown until Democrats and Republicans can agree on what spending for the health care law can be cut. Sixty-nine percent (69%) of Democrats favor instead avoiding a shutdown by authorizing spending for the law at existing levels.

Looking to the future, 80% of GOP voters believe it is more important for their party to stand for what it believes in rather than to work with the president. Right now, 65% of Likely Republican Voters think Republicans in Congress have lost touch with GOP voters from throughout the nation over the last several years, while 59% of Likely Democratic Voters think Democrats in Congress have done a good job of representing their party's values.

[metroins]

51% Favor Government Shutdown Until Congress Cuts Health Care Funding
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...h_care_funding

Lol, the same Rasmussen/Fox News polling that had Romney winning huh?

They have zero credibility on hot button issues.

[sawoobley]

Lol, the same Rasmussen/Fox News polling that had Romney winning huh?

They have zero credibility on hot button issues.

Derp. Name one poll that always gets it right.

[repos]

Yes, until we can take over the White House and Senate, then repeal it

As far as Cruz, Paul, etc as presidential candidates , please no. No Senator as a candidate. Lets pick a Governor please.

Welp as long as you realize the republicans are taking the wrong approach to gaining office. Repealing food stamps during a recession is not helping the republican/Paul Ryan image either.

[gachase21]

Welp as long as you realize the republicans are taking the wrong approach to gaining office. Repealing food stamps during a recession is not helping the republican/Paul Ryan image either.

I don't want to derail this thread on a different subject, I have multiple quotes on my opinion of that subject in another thread starting here.

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