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    Originally Posted by Packers64 View Post
    Big Ben hurt and immobile= not a very good qb.

    Anyone with any football knowledge knows ben has never been a pocket passer.

    you ever watch football bro?
    Tebow in general = a worse QB


    With the fastest receiving core in the game, a plan to efficiently integrate WR screens and short passes could have easily been integrated into the attack. Hell he should have thrown more dumpoffs to Redman. Ben coordinates the offense and he did a poor job today. Big Ben can be a pocket passer if the O-Line gives him the time, or when he is not waiting for his plays to develop deep, hence the remedy I explained. He was simply outplayed by Tebow, not uncommon. Look at Alex Smith, he is not a great qb by any means and he has defeated some great ones.

    Point is there are too many other factors to just consider the QB. Eli and A-Rod are not as mismatched as you think....
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    Originally Posted by Greg1983 View Post
    No but Charles Woodson does, and Eli's going to complete more passes to him than any of his own receivers.
    Alright you obviously don't watch football I'm done with you. Eli's burned Woodson two years in a row, Woodson hasn't touched Eli the past 3 times they've faced. The Packers secondary isn't anything special, Eli had his way with them and probably will again, as will Rodgers. Should be a good game but you obviously won't be watching because you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the Packers.

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    Originally Posted by gregbmw View Post
    Tebow in general = a worse QB


    With the fastest receiving core in the game, a plan to efficiently integrate WR screens and short passes could have easily been integrated into the attack. Hell he should have thrown more dumpoffs to Redman. Ben coordinates the offense and he did a poor job today. Big Ben can be a pocket passer if the O-Line gives him the time, or when he is not waiting for his plays to develop deep, hence the remedy I explained. He was simply outplayed by Tebow, not uncommon. Look at Alex Smith, he is not a great qb by any means and he has defeated some great ones.

    Point is there are too many other factors to just consider the QB. Eli and A-Rod are not as mismatched as you think....
    Yeah 29/16 is almost as good as 45/6. So close.
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    Originally Posted by gregbmw View Post
    Tebow in general = a worse QB


    With the fastest receiving core in the game, a plan to efficiently integrate WR screens and short passes could have easily been integrated into the attack. Hell he should have thrown more dumpoffs to Redman. Ben coordinates the offense and he did a poor job today. Big Ben can be a pocket passer if the O-Line gives him the time, or when he is not waiting for his plays to develop deep, hence the remedy I explained. He was simply outplayed by Tebow, not uncommon. Look at Alex Smith, he is not a great qb by any means and he has defeated some great ones.

    Point is there are too many other factors to just consider the QB. Eli and A-Rod are not as mismatched as you think....
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    I mean there's no way in hell the Giants lose by 9 right?!?!??!?!?
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    Originally Posted by Greg1983 View Post
    Yeah 29/16 is almost as good as 45/6. So close.

    Where are these numbers coming from? If you are referencing today's game Ben was 22-40 and Tim was 10-21
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    Originally Posted by Greg1983 View Post
    Yeah 29/16 is almost as good as 45/6. So close.
    The regular season means nothing once we're in the playoffs..you should know that, or maybe you don't. Many #1 seeds have failed.
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    Originally Posted by gregbmw View Post
    Where are these numbers coming from? If you are referencing today's game Ben was 22-40 and Tim was 10-21
    touchdowns

    Originally Posted by Zylantypic View Post
    The regular season means nothing once we're in the playoffs..you should know that, or maybe you don't. Many #1 seeds have failed.
    Your right. Regular season isnt the same. Luckily Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in post season history.
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    I mean there's no way in hell the Giants lose by 9 right?!?!??!?!?
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    Originally Posted by gregbmw View Post
    Where are these numbers coming from? If you are referencing today's game Ben was 22-40 and Tim was 10-21
    LOL. You thought those were completion stats? Yes I was clearly referencing two QBs who completed well over 100% of their passes.

    Based on the magnitude of the numbers, it should have been obvious I was referencing TD/INT ratios. Guess who they belong to. And I'm the one who doesn't know football .
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    Originally Posted by gregbmw View Post
    Where are these numbers coming from? If you are referencing today's game Ben was 22-40 and Tim was 10-21
    Eli had 29 TDs and 16 INTs, A-Rod had 45 TDs and 6 INTs..don't know why he's bringing that up because the regular season means jack ****, plus Eli's been playing with banged up receivers all year and a crappy o-line..PLUS, the worst run game in the league..which means teams KNEW he was going to pass, but ignorant fans gonna be ignorant..

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    Originally Posted by Zylantypic View Post
    The regular season means nothing once we're in the playoffs..you should know that, or maybe you don't. Many #1 seeds have failed.
    The regular season means nothing, yet we're posting in a thread you made about a regular season game. Alright then.
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    Originally Posted by Zylantypic View Post
    Eli had 29 TDs and 16 INTs, A-Rod had 45 TDs and 6 INTs..don't know why he's bringing that up because the regular season means jack ****, plus Eli's been playing with banged up receivers all year and a crappy o-line..PLUS, the worst run game in the league..which means teams KNEW he was going to pass, but ignorant fans gonna be ignorant..

    you know..
    Teams know elis gonna pass. He throws 29 tds and 16 picks. goes 9 and 7


    Teams know Rodgers is gonna pass. Throws 45 tds and 6 pick(3 of which were deflections) Leads team to one of best seasons ever


    face it Eli is not, and never will be, on AR's level
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    Originally Posted by gregbmw View Post
    Where are these numbers coming from? If you are referencing today's game Ben was 22-40 and Tim was 10-21
    holy shiet...one of the dumbest posts I have seen.

    You clearly don't watch football.
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    If I had that kind of money to gamble, I would be up for some good spirited bets.
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    Originally Posted by PhysiquePhreak View Post
    holy shiet...one of the dumbest posts I have seen.

    You clearly don't watch football.
    the dude was making no sense at all..gregbmw was talking about tebow and big ben and he randomly brings up Eli and Aaron's stat's up which have nothing to do with this..obviously greg19 has no idea what he's talking about.
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    Originally Posted by Zylantypic View Post
    the dude was making no sense at all..gregbmw was talking about tebow and big ben and he randomly brings up Eli and Aaron's stat's up which have nothing to do with this..obviously greg19 has no idea what he's talking about.
    You're right, the post I quoted clearly had nothing to do with Eli and Rodgers.

    Originally Posted by gregbmw View Post
    Tebow in general = a worse QB


    With the fastest receiving core in the game, a plan to efficiently integrate WR screens and short passes could have easily been integrated into the attack. Hell he should have thrown more dumpoffs to Redman. Ben coordinates the offense and he did a poor job today. Big Ben can be a pocket passer if the O-Line gives him the time, or when he is not waiting for his plays to develop deep, hence the remedy I explained. He was simply outplayed by Tebow, not uncommon. Look at Alex Smith, he is not a great qb by any means and he has defeated some great ones.

    Point is there are too many other factors to just consider the QB. Eli and A-Rod are not as mismatched as you think....
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    Originally Posted by gregbmw View Post
    In 2007 = Tom Brady > Eli Manning

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    So you admit you're banking on the inferior team and the inferior QB pulling off another upset. Keep rolling the dice on that one.
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    So you admit you're banking on the inferior team and the inferior QB pulling off another upset. Keep rolling the dice on that one.
    Inferior QB..I believe we have better receivers and a better defense than the Packers. Nicks > Jennings, Cruz > Driver, Manningham > Nelson. And our D-Line/Secondary owns yours. Advantage to GB's linebackers.
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    Originally Posted by Greg1983 View Post
    So you admit you're banking on the inferior team and the inferior QB pulling off another upset. Keep rolling the dice on that one.
    I forgot the NFL only counted QB stats.






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    Originally Posted by Zylantypic View Post
    Inferior QB..I believe we have better receivers and a better defense than the Packers. Nicks > Jennings, Cruz > Driver, Manningham > Nelson. And our D-Line/Secondary owns yours. Advantage to GB's linebackers.
    Good breakdown. That totally explains why the Giants won as many games as the Packers.
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    Good analysis. The proof is there that the refs botched the call. That's all that is up for debate, when did I say the refs are always against the giants? Good football talk bro!
    Where is the proof? A picture?

    Interesting because the referee reviewed it. Are you saying you are more qualified to make a call than a NFL referee? Why don't you go officiate games then?

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    Originally Posted by Zylantypic View Post
    Inferior QB..I believe we have better receivers and a better defense than the Packers. Nicks > Jennings, Cruz > Driver, Manningham > Nelson. And our D-Line/Secondary owns yours. Advantage to GB's linebackers.

    So AR is on such a higher level than Eli that he took an awful **** team to a 15-1 record while Eli lead his better team to 9 and fukking 7
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    Good breakdown. That totally explains why the Giants won as many games as the Packers.
    Pats were undefeated in 07, we beat them with less wins, this has happened a countless number of times. Your arguments are becoming more and more irrelevant.
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    Originally Posted by gregbmw View Post
    I forgot the NFL only counted QB stats.

    Read : Defense.
    Oh ok. I'll go with the defense that allows less points and creates more turnovers. I'm crazy like that.
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    Originally Posted by Future24 View Post
    Where is the proof? A picture?

    Interesting because the referee reviewed it. Are you saying you are more qualified to make a call than a NFL referee? Why don't you go officiate games then?

    Oh that's right because you are a loser.
    The refs are 100% right 100% of the time. They are not human, they are robots.







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    Originally Posted by Zylantypic View Post
    Inferior QB..I believe we have better receivers and a better defense than the Packers. Nicks > Jennings, Cruz > Driver, Manningham > Nelson. And our D-Line/Secondary owns yours. Advantage to GB's linebackers.
    Manningham > Nelson?

    Alright. You clearly have no football knowledge either. Why anyone would argue with either of you two is beyond me.

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    Originally Posted by Greg1983 View Post
    Oh ok. I'll go with the defense that allows less points and creates more turnovers. I'm crazy like that.
    BRB A lot of our key defensive players were hurt at some point of the season.

    BRB Shutting out a team in the playoffs.

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    Originally Posted by Zylantypic View Post
    Inferior QB..I believe we have better receivers and a better defense than the Packers. Nicks > Jennings, Cruz > Driver, Manningham > Nelson. And our D-Line/Secondary owns yours. Advantage to GB's linebackers.


    lol.. better defense? the giants defense sucked balls this year.. one game does not make them a good defense.. how they won the division when their point differential was -6 is beyond me....

    they are a fraud team that played in a fraud division and won their last two games against fraud teams
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    Originally Posted by gregbmw View Post
    Pats were undefeated in 07, we beat them with less wins, this has happened a countless number of times. Your arguments are becoming more and more irrelevant.
    If your only argument is that upsets have happened before, then it's obvious you're implying that the Giants winning next week would be an upset and that the Packers are the smart pick.
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