Thank Trump for pumping free money into the economy and stopping the fed from raising rates to prevent inflation...
And you can also thank corporate greed. Inflation in the US is more than 50% from companies simply jacking up prices.
And then you can thank Biden for QUICKLY getting it under control.
Thanks Biden!
How do you get that from my post? Can you read?
You aren't doing so well today... maybe try again tomorrow?
Edit: Oh you're splitting hairs again... should have known. It's what people do when they don't have a point. Like resorting to grammar mistakes. Congrats champ.
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04-19-2024, 10:40 AM #31
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04-19-2024, 10:44 AM #32
Higher crime
Higher taxes
High inflation
Schools getting worse
Filthier cities
More fecal illegal immigrants leeching of our system
The Biden boom due to happen any day now…
More racism from the left
Children leaving public schools to be either homeschooled or go private (I actually do applaud Joe and liberals for this. Taking kids out of public schools is the best thing to ever happen to them)
More wars
My taxes going to Ukrainian and Israeli politicians to buy sports cars
What’s not to like about the Biden presidemcyScubastevo :-What percentage of women have STDs? (serious) If I just wanted to go bareback with any girl that I could get with, what are my chances of ending up bed ridden with STDs?
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04-19-2024, 10:45 AM #33
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04-19-2024, 10:46 AM #34
Stopped reading here. This is a lie. As usual.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-stats-s...y?id=108042096
Trumper's "perception" and actual reality do not align.
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04-19-2024, 10:47 AM #35
LMAO, try telling the people of Oakland crime has been falling (which some media and politicians have been trying to say) all the while it's citizens are in uproar over the out of control crime that goes unpunished or dismissed.
Democrats have DA's and police officials in big cities who basically don't report or prosecute any crime.
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04-19-2024, 10:58 AM #36
He did. He saw you say *your* life was demonstrably better because of the (btw fake) unemployment numbers. And, because your life was not really affected by it, he rightly pointed this out by asking that of you.
Glad I could explain that exchange you were part of to you, you are welcome.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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04-19-2024, 11:01 AM #37
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04-19-2024, 11:22 AM #39
Wait for the upcoming seething, yet the position was clearly stated: "I believe 100% in every aspect everything is now better. Anyone who disagrees is an extremist and deserves to have Government agencies rob them of their freedom and family"
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Which, you like Biden or you think on some subjective measurement your life is now better? Fine, sure, whatever... but folks, that one guy? He is a radical extremist with absurd viewpoints that even he can not defend, nor will he try. What he might do, take my above statement -- which only comes from his own words and quotes -- and gnash his teeth and get angry I dare hold him accountable for his stated beliefs.
He'll sit here in this thread, demand everything - not one or two or even important things - No, *everything* is now better and then clearly state that anyone who disagrees with this extreme statement, they themselves are 'trumpers' which he has repeatedly defined as sub-human, extrestmists, radical, dangerous and racist. He's also advocated 'trumpers' have the CDC take children from them.
Yet, I'll be the bad guy for pointing out his horrific (and moronic) views. Ones so vile, he himself can not adequately defend them.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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04-19-2024, 11:26 AM #40
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04-19-2024, 11:43 AM #42
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04-19-2024, 11:57 AM #43
LOL at liberals who think because police and ultra extreme liberal DAs won't prosecute crimes than crime is down....
Malls in CA closing due to high theft and crime rate committed by Democratic astronauts and before you say it's happening everywhere, it's not. go up further north in California and shopping malls are full because of the low amount of Democratic basketball stars and astronauts living in those areas
Spot the anti Asian racism here from the astronauts involved
Look at the headline "As crime spikes"
One of the busiest restaurants in the city closes because of "HIGH CRIME RATES. Basketball players to blame yet again
Scubastevo :-What percentage of women have STDs? (serious) If I just wanted to go bareback with any girl that I could get with, what are my chances of ending up bed ridden with STDs?
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04-19-2024, 12:00 PM #44
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04-19-2024, 12:24 PM #45
Lulz at the claims violent crime is falling. The reporting system to the feds has changed, leaving a lot of municipalities unable to report crime to the feds. Latest data says 31% aren't reporting crime to the FBI, including some of the biggest cities in the US.
https://www.nssf.org/articles/americ...rting-problem/
"Tracking crime statistics – and more importantly, whether or not crime is rising or falling in the United States – is getting harder to do. That’s because nearly a third of America’s cities are no longer reporting crime statistics to the FBI.
This is more than just a problem for policymakers looking for data to address the cities most in need of assistance. It also means that some policymakers are demanding bad policy because they’re relying on incomplete data.
The Marshall Project reported that 31 percent of the 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the U.S. failed to report crime data to the FBI’s national database after transitioning to a new data collection system, according to the latest statistics from the FBI. That’s a slight improvement from 2021, when 40 percent of law enforcement agencies didn’t report crime data. Still, it’s a glaring blind spot, especially when that data is missing from some of the largest metro areas dealing with rampant, out-of-control crime.
Just 24 percent of New York’s police departments sent their crime data to the FBI. That’s a failing grade in anyone’s book. That includes New York City’s Police Department, along with neighboring Suffolk, Nassau and Westchester County police. Just 141 of the 583 New York police agencies reported data in 2022.
Pennsylvania was worse, with just nine percent of police departments reporting crime data to the FBI. Only 126 of the 1,392 police agencies reported their statistics. Missing were Pittsburgh, Allentown and Scranton.
California came in with just 49 percent – less than half – of police agencies sending crime statistics to the FBI."
Meanwhile people watch their local news and see what's happening.
$1 Billion mall in NYC is closed, downtown SF has become a relative ghost town, etc, etc, etc.Light weight! Light weight baby!!!!
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04-19-2024, 12:37 PM #46
All these libs can do is lie...anyone that lives in a major city can see that the exact opposite of all their claims is happening on the ground.
Crime and tent cities are out of control - hurr durr crime is down bigly!
Mass Layoffs across multiple sectors - hurr durr economy is booming! record low unemployment
Caravans of millions crossing the border every day - the border has never been more secure under Biden!
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04-19-2024, 12:44 PM #47
Speaking of the one lib itt who is taking a beating, and he's one of the worst examples, but in general this may apply to others as well...
... Is he lying? I don't think so. A lie is some kind of willful and intentional telling of something untrue. Now, he certainly flirts with this -- with his dishonest, "WHAT ABOUT SPECIFICALLY 2020?? HUH? HUH? DURING THE PANDEMIC" twisting of things, to somehow put that entire situation on Trump, but overall?
Overall he's just brainwashed. As bad as some of them doll out the term, "cultist" it's really just projection on their part -- or a result of it. Someone who is very grossly extreme, and we see it in this thread, but they view moderate or any take that isn't as batchit insane as theirs as extreme. That is part of the problem with extremism.
And with Trump, a lot of people who might otherwise be level-headed somewhat, on him they turn into extremists.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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04-19-2024, 01:10 PM #48
Well, let's see
I'm paying more for gas so there's that
I'm paying more for every day necessities , like totally cool ya' know because my extra money is going to a good cause
I'm making new friends from other countries that don't speak my language but totally fine, they do smell a little weird but i will get used to it
As long as we save the planet it's all good right guise?
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god
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04-19-2024, 01:22 PM #49
Is this post a lie?
As often as this misrepresentation of the transition to the new NIBRS is posted, it has to be intentional.
That there are temporary problems with aggregating data into one database does not mean the data isn't available outside the database or that it can't be statistically corrected for.
If "some policymakers are demanding bad policy because they’re relying on incomplete data", they are probably retarded, but it could also be bullchit. We don't know from the link because unsurprisingly, the Firearm Industry Trade Association's job is to help sell guns, not conduct unbiased journalism.
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04-19-2024, 01:29 PM #50
The data they're citing is from 'The Marshall Project.' You can find "cities unable to report crime" in search engines and find articles from places like NBC news, etc.
Is NPR right wing?
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/05/11270...its-incomplete
Ultimately all data from the last few years is shoddy, with huge gaps.
While anecdotal, crime is up in my city. Aggravated assaults, stolen cars, etc. It's part of the reason a district downtown that's always been a party area with tons of bars now has barricades and lots of police hanging out every weekend. First time ever. Been going on for months, it's unknown when it will end. Also a private security company patrolling around all of downtown. Also first time ever.Last edited by frankdtank20; 04-19-2024 at 01:35 PM.
Light weight! Light weight baby!!!!
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04-19-2024, 01:36 PM #51
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04-19-2024, 01:37 PM #52
There is no argument or debate from anyone that departments are struggling to update their systems to compile more granular date. They all fully intend to participate, it's just like anything tho, they had years (decades) to get ready and they didn't start to fix it until chit was completely broken.
The issue is that it's being spun by special interests to argue any change in crime rates is because liberals decided to quit tracking it.
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04-19-2024, 01:43 PM #53
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04-19-2024, 01:46 PM #54
Derp indeed. Just keep clawing at a few months in the middle of a pandemic as the only way to make Biden look good
US unemployment was hovering 3.5-3.6% for a year prior to Covid, and was steadily declining throughout the Trump administration until state Governors shut down the country.
Meanwhile, the past year with Biden has seen unemployment steadily increasing, now at 3.8-3.9%. And you claim that's better than 3.5-3.6%?
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
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04-19-2024, 01:47 PM #55
Everything gets spun by special interests, especially in a Presidential election year. Crime data reporting has huge gaps. Yet we still have special interests definitively declaring violent crime is down. The lib leaning media seems to be telling people "forget your lying eyes and ears." Could violent crime be down? Yes. Could it be up? Yes. Could people be watch too many videos of crime in NYC? Yes.
Could people be aware crime in their area is up? Yes. It certainly is in my area, and it's anything but a decaying city. Ultimately people care most about the way things are trending where they live, not 1000 miles away. There aren't exactly many people who think crime, especially property crime is getting better, no matter where they live.Light weight! Light weight baby!!!!
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04-19-2024, 01:47 PM #56
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04-19-2024, 02:00 PM #57
I agree and try to always admit that it's almost pointless to talk about left/right anymore. There is always an example of the other side doing whatever we're criticizing one for.
Ron Desantis used recent statistics to tout the decrease in crime in FL and he was mostly correct, there is always a disclaimer that it was violent crime or something and some liberal chimes in and says yeah, but what about non-violent crime and homeowners insurance...
In general it looks like the worst crimes in the country have been decreasing since the 1990's. But like this thread tries to do, it's all but impossible to ascribe that to who is President. Personally my life has gotten better under Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. Not because of them, but because I made decent choices and built upon whatever success I've had.
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