Iowa man sentenced to 16 years for burning LGBTQ flag

[Bushmaster]

When it comes to career criminals, let's just let bygones be bygones...

I heard he shoplifted a pack of gum from the Des Moine Walmart too.. What say we tack on another 5-10 years?

[SaltyDog920]

We North Korea now? Holy **** this is insane and of course resident libs are perfectly happy with 16 years imprisonment for burning a flag.

[Bushmaster]

I understand it is ridiculous but he did commit the crimes of theft and arson.

I am sure someone would get only a slap on the wrist if the stole a Trump sign out of my yard and set it on fire.

Interestion point there, because it is most every day someone is literally attacked because of their MAGA hat or bumper sticker. And usually the standard go to lib response is "Well they shouldn't-a wore it out in public then."

So why should this be any different? Don't want your **** flag stolen and torched - then don't fly it in public.

Sounds fair.. don't you think?

[Noliberals4]

my girlfriend's cousin got ran over (on purpose...drove over her once, then threw the car in reverse and drove over her again, killing her) by a drunk driver who then fled the scene. he got sentenced to 2 years in prison and was released after a year and half.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/midwe...wuy-story.html

Run over 3 kids, get 4 years.

Throw rocks over an overpass, killing a father, get 39 months: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/u...wing-case.html

Be an illegal, steal a gun, shoot an American woman (Kate Steinle), get nothing.

Burn a gay flag? 16 years. Just lmao.

No wonder Democrat areas in the USA have such high crime rates.

[MajorTendonitis]

Waiting for the next level of insanity when they start putting people in prison for making comments online . Any negative thing you say about the LGBTQP can get you prosecuted.
Maybe we should quit calling them mentally ill

[Stizzel]

you could murder a whole family here in Canada and do less time than that

Unless it was a trans familiy

[Tamorlane]

you could murder a whole family here in Canada and do less time than that

how many years did Homolka get

[Bushmaster]

Waiting for the next level of insanity when they start putting people in prison for making comments online

Its already happening in the UK.

https://reason.com/2018/09/15/britai...ech-into-a-po/

"In addition to reporting hate crime, please report non-crime hate incidents," they pleaded. These non-crimes include "things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing."

[Dan_S]

If he used his own flag, there would be no hate crime of arson.

So you're saying it's the act of "stealing" that shows it was a hate crime, and not that it was a rainbow flag?

Strong everything.

[Seatard]

I heard he shoplifted a pack of gum from the Des Moine Walmart too.. What say we tack on another 5-10 years?

"Martinez has said he burned the flag from the United Church of Christ in Ames because he opposes homosexuality."

"Later that night, Martinez returned to the club and told an employee that he wanted to burn a pride flag, and was going to burn down the club."



This guy is an absolute fukking moron, and instead of making stuff up about gum, I imagine if we could see his criminal past it wouldn't be pretty.

Don't let your feelings of sexual morality cloud your judgement of criminal behavior.

[scheal]

Keep reading. They're sending a message to anyone who thinks about committing hate crimes in their county in the future. Should people be more lenient on crime? Is this the new ideology of the alt-right? Soft on foreign policy, the Chinese, corporate corruption, and now crime?

So you can stomp and burn the American flag but the flag for *******s is special. Did it offend you when the gay flag got burned

[Bushmaster]

When it comes to career criminals, let's just let bygones be bygones...

You don't even know wtf he did other than burn a **** flag.. do you.

Its all about context. And 16 years is serious business considering murderers don't get that much. So I'll ask all of you defending this... Did he murder anybody? If not, what has he done to warrant 16 years?

[MajorTendonitis]

Its already happening in the UK.

https://reason.com/2018/09/15/britai...ech-into-a-po/

"In addition to reporting hate crime, please report non-crime hate incidents," they pleaded. These non-crimes include "things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing."

Well it’s pretty much a given Canadians will be next

[Bushmaster]

"Martinez has said he burned the flag from the United Church of Christ in Ames because he opposes homosexuality."

"Later that night, Martinez returned to the club and told an employee that he wanted to burn a pride flag, and was going to burn down the club."



This guy is an absolute fukking moron, and instead of making stuff up about gum, I imagine if we could see his criminal past it wouldn't be pretty.

So tell us what is actually in his criminal past. Because all I've seen is him burning a flag and hints that there are other things.

Don't let your feelings of sexual morality cloud your judgement of criminal behavior.

I'm not.. Like has been repeated to you fruits repeatedly already, murders don't get sentenced to 16 years. Are you seriously trying to say this "crime" is worse than killing somebody?

[anonymous]

Pretty sure this is getting overturned

He should have live streamed raping a baby instead of hate burning a piece of cloth

[Seatard]

You don't even know wtf he did other than burn a **** flag.. do you.

No. I thought I made that clear when I wrote:

I don't know the extent of his criminal past but apparently this guy isn't learning his lesson.

I assume the court had access to his records during sentencing. Unless we can see them too then your argument of "context" and speculation about whether he stole gum or murdered someone is a waste of time.

[Seatard]

So tell us what is actually in his criminal past. Because all I've seen is him burning a flag and hints that there are other things.



I'm not.. Like has been repeated to you fruits repeatedly already, murders don't get sentenced to 16 years. Are you seriously trying to say this "crime" is worse than killing somebody?

LOL at "hints".

Every fukkin' article says the sentence was increased do to being a habitual offender.

You aren't thinking clearly.

[Sakeoe]

He might as well have burned the entire building down while he was at it if he was gonna do 16 years lol.

Can he still appeal?

[AriGhold]

You want to know what prevents this? Not committing hate crimes.

[Austanian]

Dude... he burned a flag. A fuking piece of cloth...

It's called protected free speech whenever an American flag is burned.

This isn't "Free Speech" it is theft and destruction of personal property.

Give him a bunch of community service and force him to compensate the people he stole from.

IF he went out and bought a homo flag and burned that I would be all for letting him off as "free speech". This isn't that.

It also isn't worth 16 years.

[Bushmaster]

No. I thought I made that clear when I wrote:



I assume the court had access to his records during sentencing. Unless we can see them too then your argument of "context" and speculation about whether he stole gum or murdered someone is a waste of time.

Right... you have no idea WTF he did - yet not only can you not find any fux to give, you are completely fine with this sentence "just because." Aren't you.

Any reasonable person would be scratching their heads in confusion like the rest of us.

[MajorTendonitis]

Its already happening in the UK.

https://reason.com/2018/09/15/britai...ech-into-a-po/

"In addition to reporting hate crime, please report non-crime hate incidents," they pleaded. These non-crimes include "things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing."

Well I’m certainly going to quit calling them sexual predators now . Now their just sexually confused

[MuscleXtreme]

how many years did Homolka get

Do you believe that 16 years of prison is justified for burning a gay flag? Yes or no

[Bushmaster]

LOL at "hints".

Every fukkin' article says the sentence was increased do to being a habitual offender.

You aren't thinking clearly.

This reminds me of the big police chase in The Blues Brothers... Every cop in the state was after them because Elwood was "a known traffic menace" lol.

"The use of unnecessary violence in the apprehension of The Blues Brothers has been approved."

ZOMG he's a habitual offender! Burn him!

[Bushmaster]

This isn't "Free Speech" it is theft and destruction of personal property.

Give him a bunch of community service and force him to compensate the people he stole from.

IF he went out and bought a homo flag and burned that I would be all for letting him off as "free speech". This isn't that.

Thats fair...

[Seatard]

Right... you have no idea WTF he did - yet not only can you not find any fux to give, you are completely fine with this sentence "just because." Aren't you.

Any reasonable person would be scratching their heads in confusion like the rest of us.

No, not "just because" LOL. I'm fine with his sentence based on the information available to us.

A reasonable person would assume that the court who handed down the sentence wasn't confused about poor Adolfo's criminal record.

The sentence can be appealed if it is believed to be excessive.

[Seatard]

This reminds me of the big police chase in The Blues Brothers... Every cop in the state was after them because Elwood was "a known traffic menace" lol.

"The use of unnecessary violence in the apprehension of The Blues Brothers has been approved."

ZOMG he's a habitual offender! Burn him!

Love that movie.

The guy will be out on probation in three years and free to continue causing trouble, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

[Bushmaster]

No, not "just because" LOL. I'm fine with his sentence based on the information available to us.

ROTFLMFAO!!!!

Dude, you don't fuking HAVE any information! All you know is.. "Stole a flag and burned it along with some other stuff that he allegedly did.... seems reasonable."

But ok, that's certainly your right to act stupid in defense of your LTBGQBBQWTF's.. but just keep in mind, the next person who steals a MAGA hat from someone could also get 16 years "because of some other stuff he allegedly might have done."

We cool bro?

[Mark1T]

How can this not be appealed or challenged?

[colormeconfused]

Keep reading. They're sending a message to anyone who thinks about committing hate crimes in their county in the future. Should people be more lenient on crime? Is this the new ideology of the alt-right? Soft on foreign policy, the Chinese, corporate corruption, and now crime?

You're a fascist. 100%. And also if this guy was getting 16 years for burning an American flag your tune would be a looot different.