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    hmm....may I join?!?!?

    Good luck on the "cut" bro!!! I'll be here supporting ya!
    Thanks, Jon and welcome!

    See? You stick 'Good Bros' in the title and they come a'runnin'.

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    What is turkey hill duetto?
    It's a combination of vanilla soft serve and a flavored sorbet. Really tasty! I didn't look at the ingredient listing either, so it could be cancerous for all I know.

    Originally Posted by svmoney6 View Post
    "Who wants to have some fun!!!"
    lulz... one of my favorite exchanges...

    - "Are you just saying you want to have fun or do you REEEALLY want to have FUN?!"
    - "I really want to have fun."
    - "I'm just saying I want to have fun."
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    Originally Posted by Smitty77 View Post
    lulz... one of my favorite exchanges...

    - "Are you just saying you want to have fun or do you REEEALLY want to have FUN?!"
    - "I really want to have fun."
    - "I'm just saying I want to have fun."
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    I'll be following along in here. Good luck Smitty!
    J! Glad to have you along, buddy!





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    Originally Posted by Smitty77 View Post
    Bob... Glad you're in on this, buddy, and I hope you decide to post up from time to time! Every one of your posts in every log I've seen have been nothing short of motivational.

    My training and diet will remain virtually intact from my recomp, which I feel was quite successful, so the presence of SUB-Q will certainly be known when this comes to a close.
    Thats what followers do don't they
    If you ever have any questions you can PM or just post em up in here, or just get at me in my log. Either way we will cross paths and find the solution ya know?

    I want to see some hard work in here bro, Results don't come easy, and going through the motions never got anywhere to their goal.

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    Originally Posted by Smitty77 View Post
    J! Glad to have you along, buddy!





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    I tried the elliptical last night...ass was too sweaty from the Ultima sweats..ended up getting off after 10 mins..not a pleasant feeling.
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    Post Day 1: Cardio/abs

    Weight/BF:
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    SUB-Q dosage:
    3 bullet caplets, 8:30 a.m.; 3 bullet caplets, 2:30 p.m.

    Abs: Circuit style
    Leg raises/ Weighted oblique twists (per side)/ Hanging knee lifts
    20/15/12, 20/15/12, 20/15/12

    Cardio:
    30 mins., elliptical, moderate intensity every .25 miles.
    30 mins., elliptical, moderate intensity every .25 miles.

    Notes:
    Some mild stomach upset following my morning dose due to the forskolin, which I don't respond particularly well to. But I know how to correct that... Incorporate more carbs during breakfast.

    The afternoon dose was manageable as I took the SUB-Q following my mid-day PB/banana sandwich.

    I purposefully did not cycle off any caffeine substances prior to starting this cycle as the 200mg. dose in each SUB-Q serving would cause the jitters had I been caffeine free for weeks before, so that was a welcome non-effect.

    Appetite suppression wasn't wholly noticeable.

    I was pinched today to gauge my bodyfat and I'm extremely disappointed with the result. While I don't weigh heavily (no pun intended) on the caliper method, the anger that swelled when I learned of the total really sent my mind racing toward my goal.

    Next on the menu:
    I'll be switching my off day to Tuesday and tackling cardio/abs on Thursdays instead, so my next training day is Wednesday, which will be chest/cardio.

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    Even if you feel sick there are no excuses. Way to rock it bro.
    Absolutely right!

    These goals don't come to fruition by themselves... The result will far outweigh some minor stomach upset.



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    Post Day 2: OFF

    Weight/BF:
    219 lbs./16%

    SUB-Q dosage:
    3 bullet caplets, 8:15 a.m.; 3 bullet caplets, 2:15 p.m.

    Notes:
    A bagel cures all forskolin ills.

    This time yesterday, the stomach upset was beginning. Today, however, we're right on track (aside from some seasonal allergies that've been kicking my ass this past week).

    Weight's up a pound, but I did down a quart of water last night before bed and I stupidly weighed in this morning before expelling said water.

    Feel a bit more energetic this morning, too. I attribute that to the combination of using SHUT-EYE last night (which I often employ when I'm having difficulty getting a sufficient amount of rest), and the SUB-Q.

    Stay tuned for chest tomorrow... I expect great things!

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    Originally Posted by Smitty77 View Post
    Notes:
    Some mild stomach upset following my morning dose due to the forskolin, which I don't respond particularly well to. But I know how to correct that... Incorporate more carbs during breakfast.

    The afternoon dose was manageable as I took the SUB-Q following my mid-day PB/banana sandwich.

    I purposefully did not cycle off any caffeine substances prior to starting this cycle as the 200mg. dose in each SUB-Q serving would cause the jitters had I been caffeine free for weeks before, so that was a welcome non-effect.

    Appetite suppression wasn't wholly noticeable.

    Two things:

    1) In regards to taking SUB-Q or any other caffeine containing product around the same time as a meal - some food for thought check out the yesterday's entry at www.educatedbodybuilder.com. I thought it was interesting.

    2) Appetite suppression will be an individual thing so don't look for it. I personally don't promote too much of this as appetite suppression is not always the best thing. A well balanced diet will control blood sugar levels, preventing any crash and cravings from happening. But I'm sure you knew this...
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    Originally Posted by Smitty77 View Post
    Weight/BF:
    218 lbs./16%

    SUB-Q dosage:
    3 bullet caplets, 8:30 a.m.; 3 bullet caplets, 2:30 p.m.

    Abs: Circuit style
    Leg raises/ Weighted oblique twists (per side)/ Hanging knee lifts
    20/15/12, 20/15/12, 20/15/12

    Cardio:
    30 mins., elliptical, moderate intensity every .25 miles.
    30 mins., elliptical, moderate intensity every .25 miles.

    Notes:
    Some mild stomach upset following my morning dose due to the forskolin, which I don't respond particularly well to. But I know how to correct that... Incorporate more carbs during breakfast.

    The afternoon dose was manageable as I took the SUB-Q following my mid-day PB/banana sandwich.

    I purposefully did not cycle off any caffeine substances prior to starting this cycle as the 200mg. dose in each SUB-Q serving would cause the jitters had I been caffeine free for weeks before, so that was a welcome non-effect.

    Appetite suppression wasn't wholly noticeable.

    I was pinched today to gauge my bodyfat and I'm extremely disappointed with the result. While I don't weigh heavily (no pun intended) on the caliper method, the anger that swelled when I learned of the total really sent my mind racing toward my goal.

    Next on the menu:
    I'll be switching my off day to Tuesday and tackling cardio/abs on Thursdays instead, so my next training day is Wednesday, which will be chest/cardio.

    great workout first off, and I have no doubt that you will utilize that "anger" to dial in your focus that much more and to stay consistent to reach your goal my man!


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    Two things:

    1) In regards to taking SUB-Q or any other caffeine containing product around the same time as a meal - some food for thought check out the yesterday's entry at www.educatedbodybuilder.com. I thought it was interesting.

    2) Appetite suppression will be an individual thing so don't look for it. I personally don't promote too much of this as appetite suppression is not always the best thing. A well balanced diet will control blood sugar levels, preventing any crash and cravings from happening. But I'm sure you knew this...
    That was a great post on the Fusion blog! It's a Catch 22 for me, personally, as I've never responded well to any amount of forskolin without having some carbohydrates to soften the blow...

    Still, it'll take me a few days to find the right dosing protocol, but I'm more than willing to document the different methods used until I find the one that clicks... Tomorrow, I'll be sure to take the caplets about 60 mins. after my breakfast.

    And I completely agree with your second point. Appetite suppression shouldn't really be an issue if you're conditioned to eat a little somethin'/somethin' every couple of hours.

    Originally Posted by B1GinNY82307 View Post
    great workout first off, and I have no doubt that you will utilize that "anger" to dial in your focus that much more and to stay consistent to reach your goal my man!
    Thanks, Jon!

    Can't wait to get around the weights tomorrow, though. This log hasn't officially begun until I tear my callouses open.
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    Have you been taking SUB_Q pre breakfast or post?
    These past 2 days I've been dosing it post-.

    After Chris's post and my uneventful (see below) afternoon dose today, I'll be taking it pre- beginning tomorrow.

    Had a sandwich this afternoon about 90 mins. before the SUB-Q and experienced no stomach upset.

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    These past 2 days I've been dosing it post-.

    After Chris's post and my uneventful (see below) afternoon dose today, I'll be taking it pre- beginning tomorrow.

    Had a sandwich this afternoon about 90 mins. before the SUB-Q and experienced no stomach upset.
    Cool, from my experience I enjoyed taking it after breakfast, and approx 45-60mins pre-WO
    PreSurge = Pre WO.
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    Cool, from my experience I enjoyed taking it after breakfast, and approx 45-60mins pre-WO
    ... what time were you working out again John?
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    These past 2 days I've been dosing it post-.

    After Chris's post and my uneventful (see below) afternoon dose today, I'll be taking it pre- beginning tomorrow.

    Had a sandwich this afternoon about 90 mins. before the SUB-Q and experienced no stomach upset.



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    ... what time were you working out again John?
    approx 10am or 11:30am
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    Post Day 3: Chest

    Weight:
    216 lbs.

    SUB-Q dosage:
    3 bullet caplets, 10:00 a.m.; 3 bullet caplets, 4:00 p.m.

    Cardio:
    30 mins., elliptical, moderate intensity every .25 miles.

    Chest:
    Nautilus decline press
    15,10,10,8,8,15

    Pec-deck flyes (elbows at 90 degrees)
    10,10,10

    Nautilus incline press
    10,10,10

    Pec-deck flyes (arms straight)
    10,10,10

    Dips
    10,10,10

    Second session cardio:
    Farmer's walks, 60 lb. DBs, 1/4 mile.

    Notes:
    The reason for this layout is that I focus on a specific section of the chest for 6 sets and then compliment that with another chest movement and use the pec-deck for stretching purposes.

    As an example, today was a main focus on the decline press, with incline serving as an auxillary. Next chest session, main focus will be on the incline, with a DB flat bench serving as the auxillary, and so on and so forth.

    Decent energy today, but I wasn't overwhelmed like I would have preferred.

    I opted to take the SUB-Q as close to my gym time as possible but still allowing me time to get a dose in 6 hours later without ultimately preventing me from getting to sleep tonight.

    Next on the menu:
    Might be heading in to do back/traps tomorrow, if not on Friday.

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    Originally Posted by Smitty77 View Post
    Weight:
    216 lbs.

    SUB-Q dosage:
    3 bullet caplets, 10:00 a.m.; 3 bullet caplets, 4:00 p.m.

    Cardio:
    30 mins., elliptical, moderate intensity every .25 miles.

    Chest:
    Nautilus decline press
    15,10,10,8,8,15

    Pec-deck flyes (elbows at 90 degrees)
    10,10,10

    Nautilus incline press
    10,10,10

    Pec-deck flyes (arms straight)
    10,10,10

    Dips
    10,10,10

    Notes:
    The reason for this layout is that I focus on a specific section of the chest for 6 sets and then compliment that with another chest movement and use the pec-deck for stretching purposes.

    As an example, today was a main focus on the decline press, with incline serving as an auxillary. Next chest session, main focus will be on the incline, with a DB flat bench serving as the auxillary, and so on and so forth.

    Decent energy today, but I wasn't overwhelmed like I would have preferred.

    I opted to take the SUB-Q as close to my gym time as possible but still allowing me time to get a dose in 6 hours later without ultimately preventing me from getting to sleep tonight.

    Next on the menu:
    Might be heading in to do back/traps tomorrow, if not on Friday.

    I would still suggest about 30 minutes before your morning meal. You're waking up in a fasted state and it's going to hit you a little better on the energy side... even if you're training late morning. But I know... we have that gastric issues that have to be ironed out with one of the ingredients. I'm confident your body will adjust to this.
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    Interesting approach to your training, would you mind If I ask for your split and see what ur working with?

    are you trying to target any weak points, or just train in the hypertrophy range during ur Sub-Q or cut?
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    how has that exercise format/layout worked for you? and do intend on doing that for every other muscle group/session?
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