Your sports thoughts for the day

[Dre4]

my guess is that he falls to late top1- and then makes a lot of gms who passed regret it
guys like parker, wiggins, embid, randle, exum will all go ahead IMO

I see exum being the pg Darko/Kandiman. Dominating a bunch of aussies won't prepare him well for the nba.

[determined4000]

I see exum being the pg Darko/Kandiman. Dominating a bunch of aussies won't prepare him well for the nba.

some canadiens just wanna believe Nash is the only good euro PG ever


jk

[determined4000]

THoughts on draft prospect coming out
I really dont think it hurts his status at all. Teams go with players who can play and will continue to. I understand he is the first to do this but I really think people are making it a far bigger story than it is in this day in age. If anything, he will face less ridicule as a rookie from his teammates because they don't want to be labeled as bigots. The only thing that may impact him more is opposing team's fans jeering. It sounds like if a lot of people already quietly knew (his teammates, everyone at the college all star games, etc).
Now we will just have to deal with the incessant coverage of him by ESPN, NFL network at the combine, etc.

Having a little hard time believing Smart. Me thinks he tried to use the N-word exuse to get out of the trouble he was in. I don't see how that fan would have used that word sitting right next to some African Americans, and no one else in the crowd heard him use it.
Smart should be suspended more because you just can't go into the stands no matter what someone says. If someone did use that word he should notify officials/security to get it straightened out.
And now Smart has just put all opponents fans on notice that he can be easily rattled and NBA teams that he doesnt handle losing well *when he would most likely be going to a really bad team).

[determined4000]

So lebron says w/o a doubt his Mt. Rushmore of NBA players includes MJ, Bird, and Magic.
Then he would put Oscar as #4 (but HE himself will replace Oscar).

What a JOKE!!
1. How can you have a Mt. Rushmore without Wilt (most dominant) and Russell (biggest winner of all-time and greater Celtic than Bird).

2. You can't put yourself on. You shouldnt even compare yourself or anyone who is still playing to thsoe who are retired for this type of thing.

SO who is on yours? (have to be retired)
Mine: MJ, Wilt, Russell, and Oscar

MLB:
Babe
Willie
Hank
Ted Willians

NFL (very debatable due to difference in positions):
Montana
Rice
Jim Brown
(tough call)- LT (honorable mention Butkis/reggie white)

NHL
Gretzky
Orr
Howe
Lemieux

[Dre4]

NBA:
Jordan
Oscar
Kareem
Olajuwon (more rounded than Wilt and played in a more competitive era than him and Russell)

NFL (crapshoot):
Jim Brown
Rice
Walter Payton
Montana (although Rice had alot to do with it imo)

MLB:
Ruth
Mays
Aaron
Nolan Ryan

NHL:
Gretzky
Howe
Roy (will be replaced by Brodeur when retired)
Orr

That all said LeBron will get there when its all said and done.

[psychodiver9]

Olajuwon in top 4 is laughable.

[determined4000]

Nolan Ryan while one of the greats is overrated IMO
and (just asking, what about Hasek if you are going with a goalie

[psychodiver9]

Nolan Ryan while one of the greats is overrated IMO
and (just asking, what about Hasek if you are going with a goalie

This is dumber than the Olajuwon. Ryan all time leader in ks and no nos by an insurmountable margin. Who else has more than 2?

[hockeytownfan]

Nolan Ryan while one of the greats is overrated IMO
and (just asking, what about Hasek if you are going with a goalie

Ryan may not be Tom Seaver, but he's up there with him. Perhaps Steve Carlton as well.

[determined4000]

This is dumber than the Olajuwon. Ryan all time leader in ks and no nos by an insurmountable margin. Who else has more than 2?

as someone who understands baseball, I know you know that the K is not the greatest indivation of dominance and No-nos are just 1 game.
Nolan Ryan is 20th among pitchers in WAR, 14th in wins, 5th in Ks per 9, I cant even find him (looked at top 200) in WHIP, lifetime ERA of 3.19.

I think he is in the argument among the top pitchers but dont see him as #1 open and shut case as many do.

[psychodiver9]

as someone who understands baseball, I know you know that the K is not the greatest indivation of dominance and No-nos are just 1 game.
Nolan Ryan is 20th among pitchers in WAR, 14th in wins, 5th in Ks per 9, I cant even find him (looked at top 200) in WHIP, lifetime ERA of 3.19.

I think he is in the argument among the top pitchers but dont see him as #1 open and shut case as many do.

You are judging him on stats that didn't exist when he played. I agree he is not open and shut best (I don't think he is) but to call him overrated is insulting

[determined4000]

You are judging him on stats that didn't exist when he played. I agree he is not open and shut best (I don't think he is) but to call him overrated is insulting

thats all I was saying in contect of overrated (not a no doubt #1 choice)
which IMO prevents him from being on the Mt Rushmore (why I chose alll postional players)

So who are your 4? Each sport?

[psychodiver9]

thats all I was saying in contect of overrated (not a no doubt #1 choice)
which IMO prevents him from being on the Mt Rushmore (why I chose alll postional players)

So who are your 4? Each sport?

I agree about that I guess just don't like the term overrated for an all time great.

Baseball
Mays
Mantle
Williams
Ruth
(I struggle not having Aaron. Hard to pick 4)

Football
Rice
Payton (Walter)
Montana
Unitas
(hard here too. Want a defensive player)

Basketball
Jordan
Magic
Oscar
Probably Lebron as much as I hate to admit it. If not him russel

Hockey
Gretzky
Lemieux
Messier
??????? Lol about the only 3 I can name
Orr

[determined4000]

^^^well your pick is russsel then (cuz I mentioned discoutning current players for now)
MLB I had Mantle 5th or 6th which hurt as a Yankee fan
Not gona argue against Unitas, i is just so hard because the game was so much different then

Active Player Mt Rushmore's (how they will stack up all time)
NBA
Lebron
Duncan
Kobe (although it hurts)
I guess Wade (3 rings to CP3/KD/everyone elses 0).

NFL
Brady
Manning
AP
Megatron
(couldnt decide between D players-Bailey, Revis, Ware, Watt, Willis)

MLB
Jeter-winner, all the better SS's were juicing
Pujols
Miggy
Ichiro (imagine what his #s would be if he spent his whole career here
(sorry not picking Arod, too early fo many of the to pitchers or guys like Trout)

NHL
Jagr
Iginla
Crosby
Vincent Lecavalier

[Dre4]

Nolan Ryan while one of the greats is overrated IMO
and (just asking, what about Hasek if you are going with a goalie

Roy has more wins + shutouts and has more cups.

Active rushmores:

MLB:
Ditto D

NHL:
Jagr
Iggy
Selanne
Brodeur
love Vinny L but I'd put a handful of guys ahead of him. Won't sniff the hall imo unless he goes through a renaissance with philly

NBA
LeBron
Duncan
KG (changed the PF position)
Kobe

NFL
Peyton
Brady
Tony Gonzalez
Peterson
want to pick a defender but can't think of any revolutionary guys

[determined4000]

interesting how 3 of your 4 nba guys were HS only

Personally I think big men are better served going to school to develop (their games and bodies)
But swing players are more ready to make the jump
Overall too many guys right now go one and done.
Plus the college game is hurt by the crazy roster turnover

My solution:
Anyone who wants to can enter out of HS. If you don't go in the top 10, you can't be taken after that.
YOu are required to wait 2 years. A. Either make a 2 year commitment to a college or go play ovreseas.

Tanking solution: At midseason, all teams that want to be considered for the lottery must decalre (ruling themselves out of the playoffs).
Whatever team posts the best record thereafter gets the most pingpong balls. 2nd gets 2nd most, and on.
That way teams are trying to win all year. While it will be harder for the truely bad teams to get better, the overall level of play would always be higher around the league.

[psychodiver9]

Nothing close to either of those ideas will ever happen.

[Dre4]

Second one will never pass with ownership or the players association.

1st one, I'd say let them declare and if they get picked top 10? Good for them. If not, serves them right its their risk. This age rule bullshiit was made to protect GM's from themselves. Other than that, if a kid wants to go to college he must stay at least 2 years which will force them to survive a whole academic year.

[psychodiver9]

I dont understand why any company is allowed to prevent someone from earning a living based on age. I dont think they can physically compete but if someone wants to try to go straight from hs to nfl and gms are willing to pay them so be it

[determined4000]

I dont understand why any company is allowed to prevent someone from earning a living based on age. I dont think they can physically compete but if someone wants to try to go straight from hs to nfl and gms are willing to pay them so be it

thoughts about these college football teams granted scholarships to 6th graders?
srs about the question btw

anyone else see the USA hockey game
awesome

[psychodiver9]

thoughts about these college football teams granted scholarships to 6th graders?
srs about the question btw

anyone else see the USA hockey game
awesome

It doesn't mean anything. Nothing is official on ether end till signing day

[determined4000]

I swear the gimmicks they keep adding to the dunk contest make it worse and worse each year.

Get rid of it for awhile.
Replace it with a one on one competition.
Open it up to any all star and put 1 million on the line for charity of their choice. Maybe 500k to runner up.

[Dre4]

I swear the gimmicks they keep adding to the dunk contest make it worse and worse each year.

Get rid of it for awhile.
Replace it with a one on one competition.
Open it up to any all star and put 1 million on the line for charity of their choice. Maybe 500k to runner up.

Or bring back HORSE

[BunkMoreland]

i guess people do actually still watch the NBA

[psychodiver9]

i guess people do actually still watch the NBA

Not even the highlights

[ThousandEyes]

Not even the highlights

Same, Basketball and baseball are just too boring for me to watch

[determined4000]

Olympics
-Despite the fact that he can be a jerk and lazy, I am happy for Bode Miller because the Media kills him.
-US women hockey in gold medal game. Outshout opponent 70-9.
-US won the ice dancing gold. Can we now ban it?
-Canadian female curler = hot

and Russian


Baseball
-pitchers and catchers finally report. The season has begun.
-Dempster walks away from 13million. Props to him for not just going on the dl and cashing a paycheck.
-Still alot of unsigned FAs
- Kimbrel deserved the 40+ million dollar contract. Not too much IMO.

NBA
-Westbrook soon to be back. Wonder how KD will respond having best year of career w/o him.
-Betting no big names get moved on THursdays deadline.
-League is too top heavy and the bottomfeeders looking to unload dont have much to offer.

[determined4000]

NBA:
Can't believe the 76ers are giving away Turner. They are clearly going full tank mode, but are they better off than if they had Turner, Carter Williams and still a really good pick? Idk.

Westbrook comes back and OKC sucking it big time vs Miami after beating them without Russ.
Lebron going off. Wants that MVP.

Olympics:
Cant believe US blew a two goal lead with less than 2 minutes. Then lose in OT to let Canada claim gold again.
Men need to exact revenge tomorrow. Only downer is that it is a semi instead of a final. They are clearly the best two teams in the tourney.

NFL:
Ray Rice in trouble

[Dre4]

NBA:
Can't believe the 76ers are giving away Turner. They are clearly going full tank mode, but are they better off than if they had Turner, Carter Williams and still a really good pick? Idk.


Olympics:
Cant believe US blew a two goal lead with less than 2 minutes. Then lose in OT to let Canada claim gold again.
Men need to exact revenge tomorrow. Only downer is that it is a semi instead of a final. They are clearly the best two teams in the tourney.

Turner is a FA after this year and probably due for a pay raise that Philly wasn't willing to commit to. Getting Granger's 16M expiring deal gives them even more cap room to play with vs. Turner's 6.6M. That said, there is still alot that can go wrong in their rebuild see Pistons, Detroit and Cavaliers, Cleveland.

Gotta love dem Canadian girls Was good friends with the one who scored the 1st goal back in early grade school. Once they brought in the extra attacker I was confident they would tie it up. That linesman almost ****ed it all up though.

I'm not holding my breath for the guys to pull their weight. I'd argue that the Swedes are better than us, better scoring in this tournament and a proven goalie who hasn't had to rely on great defensemen.

[determined4000]

A lot on ESPN being made of johnny Moneybags being just under 6' but having BIG HANDS.
I really dont think either will or should impact an NFL team's decision to take a player.
Id be looking farm more at arm strength, accuracy, cutting speed, and BRAIN/Leadership.

Does his height hurt him? Sure, but we already knew he was short. I don't see how 1/4-1/2 an inch makes a difference.
Supposedly Wilson would have been a top 10 pick if he was an inch taller. Instead he goes 75th *behind Weeden, Tannehill and Oswiller).

Supposedly Browns were trying to trade for HARBOUGH. Why would SF do that? They have been a championship team since he got there.
Meanwhile Cleveland just keeps looking worse and worse.

Watched the hockey game on live steam and was surpsied just how much it seemed like CAN dominated,