Ask a College Baseball Player Anything.

[boykid28]

unfortunately no. i was too scared to do flips back then. lol.

[jjones11]

wheybolic is just a title. this again goes back to u buying a product from gnc. because they put a fancy word on the label, you paid extra money. even though it doesnt mean anything.

anabolic agents usually mean aas (or in lamens term steroids or testosterone). basically any supplement or form that mimics the male sex hormone testosterone or dihydrotestosterone chemically (which is any of a group of lipids with a specific 7-carbon-atom ring system as a nucleus, such as progesterone, adrenocortical and gonadal hormones, bile acids, sterols, toad poisons, and some carcinogenic hydrocarbons) a common form found in supplements is DHEA. there are also other forms of aas such as estrogen blockers, isoforms, endogens (DHEA) and the list goes on. then there are hormone modulators, beta-2 agonist, stimulants, diuretics, and narcotics that can get you banned also, but they are not anabolic agents directly. this is anabolic agents in a nut shell


-edit: how could i forget glucocorticods, cannabinoids, and Beta blockers.

So could an ec stack potentially make you test positive?

[BigCat67]

hey guys. ive been reading some of the posts on this thread and you guys definitely seem to know what u are talking about. I was a late bloomer...i was 5'9" 190 lbs (all soft) all the way until the summer between my junior and senior year of high school and i got cut from the high school team then i grew to 6'4" 230 lbs (still kinda soft) in the3 months of summer and the coach wanted me back and i declined due to the coach being a D***. i graduated and went to a JUCO that had just won state and i didnt even tryout. then my pitching coach told me to try out because i am 6'6" 210 and he said i should be an easy walk on. i dont throw too hard for my size consistant 88-89 mph. im notorious for the bad habit of short arming. i was hoping u guys would have some solutions for me with breaking this bad habit. ive heard when i get my arm out i will be able to throw a lot harder and thats all im looking for. i workout pretty much everyday and since im a pitcher i definitely get my cardio in. my coaches also want me to get up to at least 225 lbs. ill take any suggestions.

thanks in advance.

[ven33]

Sounds good, thanks for the advice... I was going to post a bullpen session of mine and see what you thought but I dont have the 30 post requirement haha

Just saw your PM. Read my response.

[boykid28]

So could an ec stack potentially make you test positive?

yes. that stack is 100% guarenteed to get you tested positive. although an ec stack is the best method for loosing weight (except for of course diet and exercise) it is banned by wada (olympics), ncaa, and most other competition. plasma levels of caffeine will get you to test positive for stimulants and diuretics (it does both) if you blood level is at a certain level. either 2 cups of coffee, 2 cups yerba mate, about 3 cups cola, like 5 cups tea, etc... all these cenario's will get you tested positive (each of these is about 400mg caffeine, so dont drink caffeine drinks within 24-48hours of testing). ephadrine and its metabolites (ephedra, ma huang[or whatever the chinese herb is], etc..) will also get u positive. there are other methods of supplementation to augment weight loss without getting some1 banned, but baseball isnt a weight class sport so i dont see the need to be on an ec stack (except for lossing weight).

[ven33]

Seriously guys what ever happened to lifting heavy and eating heavy?

[boykid28]

Seriously guys what ever happened to lifting heavy and eating heavy?

hey hey hey..... woah woah woah.. im on your side ven, woah. i do both of these for a living now for the past year. i was just trying to help a guy avoid a heart attack because he though fancy whey protein from gnc would get his bro banned.

[psychodiver9]

Seriously guys what ever happened to lifting heavy and eating heavy?

part of new generation. they want everything and they want it now. i had a freshman last week tell me he was taking hydroxycut. Im not sure if he was serious but I got onto him about it.

[boykid28]

part of new generation. they want everything and they want it now. i had a freshman last week tell me he was taking hydroxycut. Im not sure if he was serious but I got onto him about it.

he used hydroxycut??? ????????????????the muscletech hydroxycut?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! i would have stabbed him and then ran away, while doing the peter griffen laugh. muscletech is the more famous version of gnc (overpriced and useless. you pay for the fancy words). the free t-shirts are more anabolic than the actual supplement lol. there are so many better ways to loose weight without taking questionable supplements. every1 knows diet+exercise and ec stack works, hands down. but 1 of them is illegal. and with how much bull$H!T the ncaa comes up with(they were actually considering banning creatine. yes, no lie) diet+exercise will be banned in college too, lol jk jk. ultra high fiber diets, calcium, phosphates, green tea extract, and calcium pyruvate supps all work. all these work at half the price (except for pyruvate), can be brought at walgreens, and actually work. granted they dont do the work for you (like an ec stack) but they do exactly what they r supposed to do:supplement diet and exercise. i blame the media for quick fixes. all kids see now a days is: "loose 20lbs in 7minutes. call this toll free number and we'll...". of course they'll get suckered into paying $60 for a 2 week supply of bull$H!T products.

[psychodiver9]

he used hydroxycut??? ????????????????the muscletech hydroxycut?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! i would have stabbed him and then ran away, while doing the peter griffen laugh. muscletech is the more famous version of gnc (overpriced and useless. you pay for the fancy words). the free t-shirts are more anabolic than the actual supplement lol. there are so many better ways to loose weight without taking questionable supplements. every1 knows diet+exercise and ec stack works, hands down. but 1 of them is illegal. and with how much bull$H!T the ncaa comes up with(they were actually considering banning creatine. yes, no lie) diet+exercise will be banned in college too, lol jk jk. ultra high fiber diets, calcium, phosphates, green tea extract, and calcium pyruvate supps all work. all these work at half the price (except for pyruvate), can be brought at walgreens, and actually work. granted they dont do the work for you (like an ec stack) but they do exactly what they r supposed to do:supplement diet and exercise. i blame the media for quick fixes. all kids see now a days is: "loose 20lbs in 7minutes. call this toll free number and we'll...". of course they'll get suckered into paying $60 for a 2 week supply of bull$H!T products.

No doubt. Probably lose my job if I did what you are suggesting though

[bravesrule1]

what kind of workouts did you guys do in season? i know that trying to increase strength/power/speed during the season is dangerous and can lead to injury, so what kind of workout/exercises did you guys do and how many times per week? thanks a lot.

[ven33]

I kept my routine the same, I just tried to maintain my lifting number. Ie. dumbbell bench at 4 sets of 8 with 100 lb dumbbells etc etc

[yeaboy]

yo i wanna know how shoes and socks work for basketball players..do dey get like a certain limit on shoes or do they just get whatever they want...I mean I see these guys with fresh retros every other game in colorways thats not in the stores ect.

[psychodiver9]

yo i wanna know how shoes and socks work for basketball players..do dey get like a certain limit on shoes or do they just get whatever they want...I mean I see these guys with fresh retros every other game in colorways thats not in the stores ect.

This is not a basketball thread. Go troll elsewhere

[ven33]

Flagged, negged, and destroyed.

[snoack]

Seriously guys what ever happened to lifting heavy and eating heavy?

seriously. That's what my boy and he's a beast for his age.

[boykid28]

Flagged, negged, and destroyed.

are we talking about roger clemans or some1 else? i dont comprehend this post. confused troll is confused.

[psychodiver9]

are we talking about roger clemans or some1 else? i dont comprehend this post. confused troll is confused.

Referring to post about retro basketball shoes

[boykid28]

Referring to post about retro basketball shoes

unconfused troll is now unconfused.

[bravesrule1]

do you guys know of any shoulder mobility exercises to increase range of motion. ive been reading a lot of eric cressey's articles and they have helped a lot, i was just wondering if you guys did any specific shoulder mobility work?

[ven33]

do you guys know of any shoulder mobility exercises to increase range of motion. ive been reading a lot of eric cressey's articles and they have helped a lot, i was just wondering if you guys did any specific shoulder mobility work?

Are you talking about rotator cuff work? That and throwing is about all you need in my opinion.

[boykid28]

hey guys. ive been reading some of the posts on this thread and you guys definitely seem to know what u are talking about. I was a late bloomer...i was 5'9" 190 lbs (all soft) all the way until the summer between my junior and senior year of high school and i got cut from the high school team then i grew to 6'4" 230 lbs (still kinda soft) in the3 months of summer and the coach wanted me back and i declined due to the coach being a D***. i graduated and went to a JUCO that had just won state and i didnt even tryout. then my pitching coach told me to try out because i am 6'6" 210 and he said i should be an easy walk on. i dont throw too hard for my size consistant 88-89 mph. im notorious for the bad habit of short arming. i was hoping u guys would have some solutions for me with breaking this bad habit. ive heard when i get my arm out i will be able to throw a lot harder and thats all im looking for. i workout pretty much everyday and since im a pitcher i definitely get my cardio in. my coaches also want me to get up to at least 225 lbs. ill take any suggestions.

thanks in advance.

if you are short arming it then ur probably not using your legs. the body coil's back in order to store inertia. the legs powers the motion (usually with the front knee's going up and back like its kneeing something, or foot kicks low and out to the side) , while the torso twist or rotates(because the torso stores the power/whip in this phase). then your body uncoils,with your legs and torso powering it, to release that stored energy (the torso anatomically collapses slightly to tranfer power down to the legs where the legs drive against the ground and the energy travels back up the body). in this phase since power has been transfered to the legs to initiate the reverse up the body that means the torso (and everything above it) is used as transfer levers. the more power transfers through the body the straighter/more still the torso and head are (physics: if the torso moves wildly or on its own then it means that the torso is anatomically deformed during the transfer of kinetic energy and less power is automatically transfered; like a loose bolt in a car. and a still head enables greater accuracy during a throw, because..... well you can see where you're throwing; like controling the steering wheel. whatever direction the wheel is facing the car follows. ) right here is probably where you are short arming it. instead of your legs and torso doing the work during this part you are begining to conciously use your arm. your arms are supposed to lead the pitch/throw and follow through across the body (which is step 3 in my really short version of pitching/throwing phases), not do the actually work (yes the arms do work but not to the same extent that the legs and torso can.).

[ven33]

Answered this question in a PM, but I figured it should be addressed here as well.

Young pitchers, you should shoot to have your shoulders a bit infront of your back leg. What do I mean? See these pictures....





This will allow for all motion to go forward, and for you to not fall off balance if you are leaning backwards.

[BoS5]

Ok for baseball they have us lift in the morning for about 30-20 minutes on mon, wed, fri. Then on tues, thurs, fri they have us do push ups, sit ups, sprints and stairs for about an hour and a half. I was wondering if i should go lift after school on mon, wed, fri to finish my workout, because I only have time to get bench and squat done, they dont let you deadlift and they make you do a bunch of other things that i find irrelevant to baseball.


thanks.

sorry ven, i was in a hurry and i forgot to put in here first.

[ven33]

No biggie.

To answer your question, it's really up to you. I would personally use the team lifting time like you have been but I would continue after it finishes with any additions, or finish it later on that night.

The one thing I will tell you is that most college coaches don't know what they are doing when it comes to strength training. I would recommend doing your research and taking care of yourself how you see fit.

[BoS5]

No biggie.

To answer your question, it's really up to you. I would personally use the team lifting time like you have been but I would continue after it finishes with any additions, or finish it later on that night.

The one thing I will tell you is that most college coaches don't know what they are doing when it comes to strength training. I would recommend doing your research and taking care of yourself how you see fit.

Alright man, I'm gonna do my research and try to make the most out of the time.

thanks

[snoack]

The one thing I will tell you is that most college coaches don't know what they are doing when it comes to strength training. I would recommend doing your research and taking care of yourself how you see fit.

this^^^^

the guy that manages our gym was a D1 pitcher, and he told me exactly the same thing when we were talking about my son's strength training one day.

[ven33]

this^^^^

the guy that manages our gym was a D1 pitcher, and he told me exactly the same thing when we were talking about my son's strength training one day.

I speak the truth haha. The one thing I can promise you will never come out of my mouth is nonsense bull****. I tell it how it is, and if you can't handle that then don't ask me questions haha.

[KANOU9]

I wanted to ask this question a looong time ago but didn't unfortunately, whatever... So basically I play basketball and football(soccer). Yes I'm a bit hyper and stuff. I'll probably ditch basketball cause its just "not my sport" tho i'm pretty good in it considering i've been playing a couple of months.

Well the question is regarding baseball and weights due to shoulders being severely destroyed after each session I suppose. A friend of mine told me that I should come to train with him (which i did 2 sessions) cause I told him I like the sport but never had the opportunity to play. He's saying stuff that I just put a little bit of work and a scout will for sure pick me up, although my problem is due to weight training(shoulder) and he couldn't answer my question fully.

The 2 sessions I went I pitched right handed and I thought that I'd be sore for sure but not utterly destroyed, couldn't move arm sideways straight without feeling the rotator cuff like an open fire. I'm ambidextrous although not naturally it is pretty solid and told him about it which he found amazing to say the least. So now I'm in a dilemma, I told him that I will give him a complete answer on going to baseball hardcore in 2 months cause due to a recent knee injury and this damn shoulder I need them for a rest(doc said).

What should I do? Can I have a good physique while maintaining healthy shoulders(cause I am going to start hitting the gym, fed up of being a scrawny tall kid...) and how do you deal with shoulder problems in everyday life and on near future?

Thanks a lot and sorry for making it long, cheers mate.

[boykid28]

I wanted to ask this question a looong time ago but didn't unfortunately, whatever... So basically I play basketball and football(soccer). Yes I'm a bit hyper and stuff. I'll probably ditch basketball cause its just "not my sport" tho i'm pretty good in it considering i've been playing a couple of months.

Well the question is regarding baseball and weights due to shoulders being severely destroyed after each session I suppose. A friend of mine told me that I should come to train with him (which i did 2 sessions) cause I told him I like the sport but never had the opportunity to play. He's saying stuff that I just put a little bit of work and a scout will for sure pick me up, although my problem is due to weight training(shoulder) and he couldn't answer my question fully.

The 2 sessions I went I pitched right handed and I thought that I'd be sore for sure but not utterly destroyed, couldn't move arm sideways straight without feeling the rotator cuff like an open fire. I'm ambidextrous although not naturally it is pretty solid and told him about it which he found amazing to say the least. So now I'm in a dilemma, I told him that I will give him a complete answer on going to baseball hardcore in 2 months cause due to a recent knee injury and this damn shoulder I need them for a rest(doc said).

What should I do? Can I have a good physique while maintaining healthy shoulders(cause I am going to start hitting the gym, fed up of being a scrawny tall kid...) and how do you deal with shoulder problems in everyday life and on near future?

Thanks a lot and sorry for making it long, cheers mate.

i hope the bold isnt a serious question. anyhow, as far as what you should do: do what u think is best for u. do some rotator cuff exercises with a rubber tube for the nagging shoulder. and start off with man pushups (dips) and pullups b4 u go trying to lift heavy wegiht and then agravate that shoulder again because u werent sensible with the weights. also i noticed u r 6'5" and weigh 165. u should weigh alot more in a power sport ( such as baseball). like 232 or more. at the least 206.