Is it impossible for some people to have abs?

[Sebas94]

I know this is a really stupid question but Im just wondering because I was basically on a 5 month cut an just got really scrawney but still had grabable fat in my belly. I always ate clean and didnt even have cheat days. Im bulking now just for the sake of having a little more muscle mass and not being so wimpy and plan to cut around April but Im just wondering because I tried SO hard to finally have abs for once but it just never happened. On many occasions my dad just told me to give up and told me some people just cant have abs, but I REFUSED to believe that and kept trying. Still didnt work. Kinda hoping that after this(my first bulk and cut cycle) I'll finally be able to have abs, at least by Summer...

[marrrk]

alot of people dont have visible abs even at extremely low bodyfat percentages such as 8%. this is mainly due to the fact that they have never worked out in their life/have played sport thus dont have any muscle to show. i would say that you need to bulk hard and then cut and you should see abs. every human has abs. every human has all the muscles they are meant to have to perform daily functions such as walking. you need abs to stabilize yourself to walk so saying you dont have abs is a mistake. you simply do not have visible abs. pls post your cutting diet and your routine during your cut and then i and other members can help you out and tell you if you went wrong or how you can improve it for your next cut

[MadeUnderground]

What was your diet like? Sounds like you just got skinny fat to me. Meaning you lost muscle mass (weight) but still kept around a high body fat percentage.

If you get your body fat to 10%, I can pretty much guarantee you'll have abs.

Also even if you wouldn't have countable packs, your stomach would still be really chiseled in that region, so it would look like you have abs basically. So in otherwords, its impossible for no one to not have abs (abdomen), and can get chiseled there, how many packs you have is determined by genetics.

[facer01]

i spose you could genetically have smaller stomach muscles then others so then he is right in that case.
some people could work their ass off and not have defined stomach muscles due too their genetics, but in your case id say that your still young and wouldnt really worry about not having and defined stomach muscles as i didnt start getting defined ab's until about half way through last year.
but still keep doing what your doing but dont base your workouts around abs'

[Sebas94]

I dont, I do Rippetoes which is all full body, I Just really want VISIBLE abs this summer!!

And yeah I think what MadeUnderground said is right...I ate 1800 calories per day plus p90x(lotta cardio on there) for 3 months and then for 2 more months "lifting" in the gym cause I was new to the whole exercise lifestyle and just became skinny fat. It IS basically what I am, I have a skinny body but I have a flabby belly that jiggles and looks bad :/

[Sebas94]

alot of people dont have visible abs even at extremely low bodyfat percentages such as 8%. this is mainly due to the fact that they have never worked out in their life/have played sport thus dont have any muscle to show. i would say that you need to bulk hard and then cut and you should see abs. every human has abs. every human has all the muscles they are meant to have to perform daily functions such as walking. you need abs to stabilize yourself to walk so saying you dont have abs is a mistake. you simply do not have visible abs. pls post your cutting diet and your routine during your cut and then i and other members can help you out and tell you if you went wrong or how you can improve it for your next cut

So you think after 6 months of bulking, Rippetoes, ab ripper x 3 days per week I might be able to have visible abs after cutting?

[HowBoutAPound]

I know some people like myself have excess skin that will decrease the appearance of abs. I can pull the skin off my scrawny ass neck for a good 3 inches. I don't know why, I'm assuming it's just genetics. Perhaps this is one of your causes?

[Sebas94]

Nah I dont think so bro but thanks for trying to help

[broken_steel]

abs are HIGHLY genetic. its very possible for someone to spend years trying to attain abs, but not impossible. my abs have always been pretty damned pronounce, even when im 4 months into my bulk you can still see them (avatar pic). the problem may be that you don't have any ab muscles? BULK and then cut, im sure you'll see much better results

[Sebas94]

Yeah its what Im doing now hoping it will work

[ArauzDurandal]

Sounds like you lost muscle

What i would do is CLEAN bulk for 2-3 months (no more than 500 over manteinance unless you really need it {that is if you are getting no gains}) and then cut.

It's important that you don't gain too much fat becase the more you gain the longer the cut will be and you need to get in time for summer.


Once you are ready to cut (depending on how much fat you have to loose is how many weeks before your desired date your cut should start) cut 500 calories below maintenance and start re feeding after 2-3 weeks if you see that the weight loss is slowing down or if you hit a plateau like you did before, or if you start feeling super craves (don't get into a binging rampage after it) or if you are feeling ****ty or something. Refeeds do not tend to get stored as fat and are needed for recovery and in order to restore your metabolism, as it slows down to prevent you from dying from not getting enough food (ur body loves u !)

You must likely have visible abs already dude, but you stopped burning fat and started burning muscle most likely, that's due to a bad diet so get it in check here before attempting it. Everyone has abs. they are covered by fat. It's bull**** to say that you can't get them to show, it's just getting rid of the fat and everyone can burn fat.

On a side note you are only 15, and there is no proof that cutting does nothing to your growth and development so i wouldn't cut again....not sure tho :\

I wanna have abs too (believe me i know why you want them lol) but i think im going to bulk for a while first.

Personal choice tho...

[Sebas94]

Yeah Im gonna keep going with this bulk until about March and then cut for summer. Hopefully ill look in time for the every day pool and beach visits with all my friends!

[jjd6290]

Smacksforehead/

Everyone "has" abs, If you didn't you would fall over. We all have 8, they just vary in size and shape from person to person.

The problem is, what do you consider a "clean" diet?? That is such a realative term that people THINK they know what it means.. but they have no clue. Diets also vary from person to person. There is no cookie cutter diet that everyone suppose to follow. You must find out what work for YOU and only YOU.

You can do all the abdominal exercises you want but if your diet is lagging, so will your progress.

[Loswaldo]

At 149lbs yes.

[bbqq]

Do some abs work as well, if you're not doing any. Might help a little when you cut again.

[Sebas94]

Smacksforehead/

Everyone "has" abs, If you didn't you would fall over. We all have 8, they just vary in size and shape from person to person.

The problem is, what do you consider a "clean" diet?? That is such a realative term that people THINK they know what it means.. but they have no clue. Diets also vary from person to person. There is no cookie cutter diet that everyone suppose to follow. You must find out what work for YOU and only YOU.

You can do all the abdominal exercises you want but if your diet is lagging, so will your progress.

I mean Im bulking right now but and pretty much all I eat are whole foods. I dont count macros or any of that stuff. All I do is make sure I get my protein in and that my fats and carbs come from good sources. I think I just burned away muscle with p90x, sadly. But I have my hopes up on the cut coming up after this, my first bulk.

[Stackz123]

everyone has a 6pack or 8 pack

[SkinnyMof0]

Might be stupid but-

My friend is 150lbs at 6-7% bf naturally without any cut phase's, he have like no water weight, athletic build, he's veins going out crazy everywhere even if he don't workout - but he have no ABS at all, not even a sign, and he train dem pretty good, so I think some people do not have ABS on their genetics. that's all...

[Sebas94]

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[thegr8t]

Might be stupid but-

My friend is 150lbs at 6-7% bf naturally without any cut phase's, he have like no water weight, athletic build, he's veins going out crazy everywhere even if he don't workout - but he have no ABS at all, not even a sign, and he train dem pretty good, so I think some people do not have ABS on their genetics. that's all...

Yeah sure, he's born and cells forgot to differenciate into a certain muscle group.

[Phiilthy]

work abs + low bodyfat = abs.

for anyone.

[fregs79]

my brother who has very low bf (cut up arms and chest) who is of similar build to me (slightly stronger) simply has very little ab definition...there is muscle there but its is just not in separate muscles if that makes sense...there is muscle there just not in a traditional 6-pack

[Sebas94]

Well honestly I dont even care that much about having a super six pack. Really what I want is a tight stomach so to speak. NO JIGGLE!

[some_dude]

I've been in the same boat for a couple years man. Best I've ever gotten is top two abs visable with middle slightly visable. I have descent ab mass, I can feel them with my fingers and the disting separations just they are covered by an inch of fat. I cut for a while then said f it I'm not going to have abs so geain some mass and I started to do a really slow bulk. This month I'm increasing cals even more and am gonna bulk till the end of january then will try to cut once again. Cutting so soon because I know it takes a while for me to shed stomach fat, plus I want to slowly cut so I preserve muscle mass. Never had abs in my life, but I know the potential is there. Just those last few body fat %. If you don't have ab mass peiod though, I would start some weighted ab exercises. Besides that it's all in cardio and clean eating.

[Scooter4]

Abs are made in the kitchen so your nutrition has to be spot-on.

[syntaxle]

My abs came piss, well, 4 of them at least. I've only been going to the gym since October and I have 4 clearly defined abs.

Like I always say, there's a fat-to-muscle ratio with abs. It's no good having ridiculously low BodyFat if the abdominal muscles arn't built enough to show. As your BF% gets higher and higher you need larger and larger abs for them to be defined, untill about 12% - 15% BF when they physically can't get big enough to stand out against the fat layers. The numbers vary of course based on genetics.

Regarding actually having abs abscent ( no pun ), people can be born with only 4 defined packs, or as much as 8 or 10 packs. For almost everybody though, there will always be 6 muscular packs across the abdomen. The level of indentation between the individual packs can very though, which is again based on genetics, and some people don't have straight abs, they have curling, uneven abs. All genetics.

[NorwegianGuy92]

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[Sebas94]

It is possible for EVERYONE to have a tight abdomen, even if abs arent visible because of say genetics right?

[gym_issue]

[Scooter4]

It is possible for EVERYONE to have a tight abdomen, even if abs arent visible because of say genetics right?

Right... All comes down to low body fat (diet). The last pounds of body fat are stubborn to lose. You have to be in a small deficit (200-300) to ensure that you are only losing fat rather than muscle.