Yo dawg, we heard you needed insulin so we put insulin in your insulin.
luls great vid brogan; it's annoying as hell how much this myth has stuck around.
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11-20-2012, 09:01 AM #964
This morning on the radio I heard this... "we all know that teens try to grow up too fast...well a recent study shows that teens are turning to steroids...35% of teens have admitted to using protein powders and 6% of teens are using steroids according to latest findings.."
LOL oh boy...I couldn't believe how they lumped those two together!
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11-20-2012, 09:19 AM #965
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11-20-2012, 10:03 AM #967
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The Strength Guys Squat Cycle
Week 2 Day 1
Pull-Ups:
30 Reps over various grips and Sets
3 Stance Back Squats (2 Sets Narrow, 2 Sets Shoulder With, 2 Sets Very Wide) ((70% @ 6 Reps))
135 x 10
185 x 8
255 x 6 (6 Sets) (2 Narrow, 2 Shoulder, 2 Wide)
Close Grip Seated Cable Row (4:0:1 Tempo)
100 x 10
120 x 10 (6 Sets)
Wide Grip Lat Pull-Down (4:0:1 Tempo)
100 x 10
120 x 10 (4 Sets)
Dumbbell Shoulder Press (4:0:1 Tempo)
50's x 10
60's x 10
70's x 10 (4 Sets)
Single Arm Standing Cable Curl (3 Second Negative) // Superset // Reverse EZ Bar Curl (Explosive)
1 Warm Up
20 x 10 (4 Sets) // 60 x 20 (4 Sets)
Wide Grip Pulldown:
Post-Workout:
Sweet and Sour Chicken Stirfry
3 Rice Cakes with PB Protein Pudding and Banana's
PB Protein Powder Junk Bowl with Kashi Go Lean, Apple Cinnamon Chex, Strawberries and Apples
Cheers fellas, just trying to be real off knowing what I know.. but ALWAYS open to learning.
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11-20-2012, 10:54 AM #968
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11-20-2012, 11:15 AM #969
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Not to rehash this, but got to give credit where its due. I tried it with UABV today and indeed it does work. Ended up using half as much almond milk (which I found as a suggestion via google) and its legit. Mixed up some french vanilla, added some cream cheese and cool whip, and made a pumpkin pie frosting. Reps to you both.
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11-20-2012, 11:22 AM #970
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You are the man Burt, will i be seeing you in March @ The Arnold?
Good to chat with you on FB Ryan.
^^ Muscle and Fitness Brah! Get with it
Nope, if i did i would not continue to do them (listen to your body). This is also what my trainer recommended for me due to my back lagging.
I IF for the most part, but i dont stress a certain window, if its 9 hours, or 7 hours i dont really care. I just get my kcals in.
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11-20-2012, 01:31 PM #974
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11-20-2012, 02:19 PM #975
bob you train fasted or no?
I never really considered IF a 9 hour eating window. That seems more like a typical day for most people I would say. (Bfast at 8am and dinner at 5 or 6pm).
Anyways, IF seems like it would work better for cutting. I get really bloated on 1K plus meals. Trying to Jam 3.3K of food in 2 or 3 meals is tough, and makes me feel bloated and lazy.
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11-20-2012, 02:32 PM #976
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11-20-2012, 05:43 PM #977
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^^ Bingo! The hunger hormone will adapt to any eating pattern you give it and Martin address's that right off his leangains site.
most people eat in an 8 hour period and dont even realize it (most people that work regular 9-5 jobs) and wait till their lunch to eat, come home eat dinner, and then a snack before bed. Does not seem like they knew what IF is, but they still do it..
It may suit others for cutting, but it does not matter its a "lifestyle" diet and used by those who find it to suit their lifestyle and how they enjoy eating.
300-400 calorie meals while cutting dont cut it for me. I get hungrier, my performance is weaker, and i am craving and thinking about food constantly, when i dropped my meal frequency from 5-6x a day over 3 years ago to less meals, i found greater energy, better focus, and better gym performance.
Find what WORKS FOR YOU, dont do what others do, try different things and see what works. Everyone is different and "The Body is not a textbook" thats why i always say "Personal Preference" if you can eat a 1,000 calorie meal and get bloated, i could suggest to you a few 1000 calorie meals and you would not even be phased by hunger and would want more.
Articles about hunger hormone and getting hungry:
http://www.leangains.com/2012/06/why...me-hungry.html
http://www.leangains.com/2009/04/questions-answers.html
http://www.leangains.com/2009/11/que...nswers_23.html
http://www.leangains.com/2009/07/mea...ass-gains.html (meal Frequency and mass gain)
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11-20-2012, 06:53 PM #980
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11-20-2012, 09:45 PM #981
Im not trying to follow what he does, I was curious if he did these things. I have my own routine and regimine I follow, which is why I said I dont like eating large meals. Ive been eating 1K + meals for over a year now, I never adjusted to them, and always feel the same when Im done. I dont know about this "hunger hormone", but I find my appetite is roughly the same. Its just how much I try to consume that changes, my appetite and response to how much I eat stays the same.
I only ask what he does because I like to see what others do to get success so that I could try them and see if they work for me or not. For me I like eating 3 meals a day, thats it. I dont have time in the day to eat more than that (job restrictions and travelling to and from work restrictions).
edit: also some of those links I dont find apply at all to me. Breakfast never makes me hungry, I could eat breakfast and go most of the day without eating. Similarly I could NOT eat breakfast and go most of the day without being hungry. I get hungry late afternoon and thats about it. I actually find breakfast makes me feel sick, its my least favourite meal, and I struggle to eat the calories in the morning.
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11-20-2012, 10:19 PM #983
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"hunger hormone" is a vague term. Im assuming you guys were referring to Ghrelin, which is a peptide hormone secreted in the gut that alters certain neuropeptides in the hypothalamus, Ghrelin is an orexigenic hormone, leptin antagonizes it and makes you feel full (i.e. leptin is an anorexigenic hormone). There is a lot of research looking into ghrelin secretion patterns and how they are correlated to feeding, but I will say that from anecdotal experience the body can adapt to most any eating behavior if given the time to adapt.
I used to eat 6-7 small meals a day and was constantly hungry in between meals. Ive now been following IF for around 2 years and usually eat 2 huge meals later in the day; I am rarely hungry during the fasting period because my body has adapted to the mechanism of feeding. I would surmise you could do the same if you really tried. Trust me, when I first started IF I thought there was no way I'd get used to eating all my macros in two meals later in the day but now I couldn't see how I would ever eat as frequently as I was before (that doesnt mean I can't do that, it just means I would need to re-adapt)Team HALEO™ Rep
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11-20-2012, 10:29 PM #984
yup
I believe any one can adapt to any feeding schedule given the proper amount of time to adapt/.
Maybe if you are used to 6-7 meals a day spaced over 16 hours for 10 years it would take longer to adjust to 2 meals in 3-4 hours than someone eating 4 meals over 10 hours for 2 years, but eventually you would adapt to it.
You could do the same with sleep. Ex. Nurses or other professions taht work the night shift. They dont feel tried and fall asleep at the same time people who work the 9-5 shift do.When I was in grad school I would sleep from 5am to 11 or noon every day. Now I am a member of the work force and often get up at 7am or earlier and go to bed hours earlier than just 6 months ago. There is no way I could make it to 5am right now.Given the hours I was awake I also ate at different times and worked out at different times. Adaptation allows for any sort of living cycle.
From what I ahve seen those with eating problems operate at the extremes.
THey feel as though they MUSt eat 6-8 meals in order to be healthy/keep the metaboislm firing...or they IF down to 1 meal a day and develop a binge eating behavior and end up getting that "never can be full" feeling
Or in terms of food selection, they are far too restritive and end up craving things they eliminate, or they think they are following IIFYM mby eating whatever the heck junk they want as long as they hit their protein need and end up craving the sweets they are overeating.
So once again in comes back to the time-tested result: Moderation and balanceLast edited by determined4000; 11-20-2012 at 10:35 PM.
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11-21-2012, 02:26 AM #985
Very true indeed, I myself i am struggling with the feeling full effect from that 6 meals a day thing and to be brutally honest nothing fills me out now. I am very grateful for being able to control my mind, eliminating all mind games. I am pretty sure if i had no mind control, i would blow up in no time!!
Btw if anyone could plz tell me how to sub to threads, i have just realized today by what people mean when they say " subbed" loll. So everyone forgive me for not subbing, however with that being said i ve been watching over for a long time hahah
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11-21-2012, 02:41 AM #986
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You even state you hate large meals, and you dont feel good after them, so in a sense your doing something you dont enjoy and which makes you uncomfortable, so why do you do it regardless if your job makes you travel. eat less filling foods = Success
^^ Bingo
This too.
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11-21-2012, 03:27 AM #987
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loving this journal.. you are smart about your approach to everything. reversed amazingly.. and I am digging the training style.
I expect you will have huge improvements from now until the next time you compete.
I think the ab issue will solve itself in time as you gain more size, and get even leaner next time. don't even let it phase you.
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The Strength Guys Squat Cycle
Week 2 Workout 2
5 Minutes on Bike to Warm up Legs
Pull-Ups:
30 Reps over Various Sets/Grips
Front Squat: (60% Aim for 20 Reps):
Bar x 10
95 x 20
140 x 20 (6 Sets)
** 90 Seconds of Rest between Sets
+5 Pounds
Standing Military Press: (5 Reps @ 80%)
95 x 5
145 x 5 (6 Sets)
+10 Pounds
Incline Dumbbell Bench: (4:0:1 Tempo)
50's x 10
65's x 12 (4 Sets)
Cable Delt Complex (5 Front, 5 Lateral, 5 Rear)
1 Warm Up
10 Pounds x 5 Reps Each Way (4 Sets)
Dumbbell Skull Crushers // Superset // Diamond Grip Push-Ups:
40's x 10 (4 Sets) // Bodyweight x 20 (4 Sets)
+1 Set
Post-Workout:
3 Cheese and Veggie Pizza!
Awesome man, thank you so much for your support.
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