Geno Smith......what's his pro outlook????

**TheThrill1** · 09-30-2012, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by NJLife

looks like another tyrod taylor.

still waiting on one of these "Athletic" qtr backs to win a superbowl. cuz highschools and colleges are having so much success with them. yet in the nfl they are just flashy and hardly get it done.

maybe cam or rg3 can do it.

Idiot.

**nontansto** · 09-30-2012, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Masstastic

Actually that was my scouting report on Cam Newton, RGIII, Colin Kaepernick, Tyrod Taylor, Josh Freeman, JaMarcus Russell, Vince Young, Michael Vick, Byron Leftwich, Donovan McNabb, Warren Moon, & Willie Beamen.

i know your trying to be sarcastic, but lets be serious here.....how many quarterbacks in this list have won a super bowl? Zero That list looks like a disaster

Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD

All HIGH IQ POCKET PASSERS. I always laugh when people say "RG3, Cam are the future for the QB position!!". Um no *******s. Athletic, running QB's have won jack **** in this league (try and prove me wrong)

**Yank11** · 09-30-2012, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by nontansto

i know your trying to be sarcastic, but lets be serious here.....how many quarterbacks in this list have won a super bowl? Zero That list looks like a disaster

Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD

All HIGH IQ POCKET PASSERS. I always laugh when people say "RG3, Cam are the future for the QB position!!". Um no *******s. Athletic, running QB's have won jack **** in this league (try and prove me wrong)

Except this topic is about Geno Smith, who ISN'T an "athletic, running QB"

So I really don't get your point

**TheThrill1** · 09-30-2012, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Yank11

Except this topic is about Geno Smith, who ISN'T an "athletic, running QB"

So I really don't get your point

He's never seen him play and is just making assumptions.

**nontansto** · 09-30-2012, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Yank11

Except this topic is about Geno Smith, who ISN'T an "athletic, running QB"

So I really don't get your point

if thats the case, what makes him different from Graham Harrel, Colt Brennan, Timmy Chang, etc who put up monster numbers in a gimmicky offense?

**Fahnestock** · 09-30-2012, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by TheThrill1

He's never seen him play and is just making assumptions.

This. Oh a black QB running the spread? He must be a low IQ scrambler with extreme character concerns.

**phillyfreak7** · 09-30-2012, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Yank11

Except this topic is about Geno Smith, who ISN'T an "athletic, running QB"

So I really don't get your point

The point is he is a racist moron.

**Masstastic** · 09-30-2012, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by nontansto

i know your trying to be sarcastic, but lets be serious here.....how many quarterbacks in this list have won a super bowl? Zero That list looks like a disaster

- Leftwich has a Super Bowl ring.

Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD

All HIGH IQ POCKET PASSERS. I always laugh when people say "RG3, Cam are the future for the QB position!!". Um no *******s. Athletic, running QB's have won jack **** in this league (try and prove me wrong)

& once again, define "athletic, running QB".

Young & Rodgers fit that mold and have each won SB's, not to mention Andrew Luck is on par "athletically" with Cam Newton who you consider an "athletic, running QB"

If not stop beating around the bush and say "Black" QB's can't win a Super Bowl and stand behind it.

Why are you giving me the politically correct response when you're behind a computer screen on a username?

**Masstastic** · 09-30-2012, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by phillyfreak7

The point is he is a racist moron.

The QB position in the NFL is the proud White man's last frontier in sports.

**nontansto** · 09-30-2012, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Fahnestock

This. Oh a black QB running the spread? He must be a low IQ scrambler with extreme character concerns.

Originally Posted by phillyfreak7

The point is he is a racist moron.

your right, I MUST be a racist because i'm not sold on geno smith. got it.

**Masstastic** · 09-30-2012, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by nontansto

if thats the case, what makes him different from Graham Harrel, Colt Brennan, Timmy Chang, etc who put up monster numbers in a gimmicky offense?

We're 65 posts in and he drops the bomb on us that he has never seen Geno Smith play.

**Yank11** · 09-30-2012, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by nontansto

your right, I MUST be a racist because i'm not sold on geno smith. got it.

how can you have any opinion on him if you've never even seen him play?

**Masstastic** · 09-30-2012, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Yank11

how can you have any opinion on him if you've never even seen him play?

He has an opinion on him because he has seen him.

Its silly reasoning, but you have to understand that he has to be objective to defend an argument he feels strongly about that "athletic, running QB's" will never win a Super Bowl.

**nontansto** · 09-30-2012, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Masstastic

We're 65 posts in and he drops the bomb on us that he has never seen Geno Smith play.

I just saw him win against South Florida

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=322730058

**phillyfreak7** · 09-30-2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by nontansto

your right, I MUST be a racist because i'm not sold on geno smith. got it.

No, it's due to how stupid you sound in this thread right now.

**Masstastic** · 09-30-2012, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by nontansto

I just saw him win against South Florida

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=322730058

That is impossible because he lost that same game.

**nontansto** · 09-30-2012, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Masstastic

That is impossible because he lost that same game.

wat. Geno Smith is the FSU quarterback

**Masstastic** · 09-30-2012, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by nontansto

wat. Geno Smith is the FSU quarterback

Wrong.

This is Geno Smith.

**nontansto** · 09-30-2012, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Masstastic

Wrong.

This is Geno Smith.

whatever, same person

lol at you using a pic of him RUNNING and then arguing hes not a running QB. make up your mind

**roko79** · 09-30-2012, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Masstastic

He will be a 2nd or 3rd rounder when April arrives, you just can't discount the fact he's playing in a conference that inflates his stats big time.

fixed

**Masstastic** · 09-30-2012, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by nontansto

whatever, same person

lol at you using a pic of him RUNNING and then arguing hes not a running QB. make up your mind

He had to pick up a 1st down on 4th and 5.

But here is a picture of him throwing.

**waytoodeep03** · 10-01-2012, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by nontansto

i know your trying to be sarcastic, but lets be serious here.....how many quarterbacks in this list have won a super bowl? Zero That list looks like a disaster

Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD

All HIGH IQ POCKET PASSERS. I always laugh when people say "RG3, Cam are the future for the QB position!!". Um no *******s. Athletic, running QB's have won jack **** in this league (try and prove me wrong)

A black qb has gotten to the super bowl. His name was Donovan Mcnabb. It was unfortunate he didnt win but he was an athletic guy at the time and very much should have won that game. Another was Steve Mcnair who also couldve won that game. Sometimes its just the way the cookie crumbles and has nothing to do with the qb

**Paradidler** · 10-01-2012, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by m0ridin

Uh.. he inflated his stats that game and still manage to get the **** kicked out of him. That would be the definition of a gimmicky offense.

The only thing impressive about WVU that day was its receivers and the yards he did manage to put up were mostly useless and when LSU was half assing it. They lost big time.

The LSU game would have been much closer if it wasn't for this man.

LSU Punting
TOT YDS AVG TB -20 LG
B. Wing 6 292 48.7 0 6 60
Team 6 292 48.7 0 6 60

All of his punts were downed inside of the 11 yard line with three punts downed inside the 5. Also the kick return for a touchdown didn't help. LSU's special teams were fantastic. To win that game Geno would of had to throw for 600+ yards. That is a lot to ask of any quarterback.

**MCrow** · 10-01-2012, 08:13 AM

I probably would have Geno Smith as a 2-3rd rounder right now. I don't think his peformance so far this year really increases his value much as he's doing the same stuff he did last year for the most part. He stares down WRs, isn't that great on the run, makes some mind bogglingly bad throws, don't set his feet to throw and throws too much from his back foot, and locks on to WRs to the point of missing multiple other wide open WRs.

People will say he's the next RGIII but Smith isn't the athlete that RGIII is and I don't think he has the same level of football IQ either and definitely not as techinically sound as RGII was.

It is a weak QB class so he could go in the late 1st if he continues to put up huge numbers and there are enough teams looking for a QB.

Off the top of my head:

The Jets and Jags seem likepossibly looking for a new QB.

I wouldn't put it past KC, Phili, Miami, Browns, and Raiders being other teams that might be looking for QB's in the first round.

Barkley might be the only 1st round QB this year, Smith is probably the next off the board in the 2nd round.

**phillyfreak7** · 10-01-2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by MCrow

I probably would have Geno Smith as a 2-3rd rounder right now. I don't think his peformance so far this year really increases his value much as he's doing the same stuff he did last year for the most part. He stares down WRs, isn't that great on the run, makes some mind bogglingly bad throws, don't set his feet to throw and throws too much from his back foot, and locks on to WRs to the point of missing multiple other wide open WRs.

People will say he's the next RGIII but Smith isn't the athlete that RGIII is and I don't think he has the same level of football IQ either and definitely not as techinically sound as RGII was.

It is a weak QB class so he could go in the late 1st if he continues to put up huge numbers and there are enough teams looking for a QB.

Off the top of my head:

The Jets and Jags seem likepossibly looking for a new QB.

I wouldn't put it past KC, Phili, Miami, Browns, and Raiders being other teams that might be looking for QB's in the first round.

Barkley might be the only 1st round QB this year, Smith is probably the next off the board in the 2nd round.

**Fahnestock** · 10-01-2012, 08:22 AM

So many people's jimmies are going to be rustled come April when yet another black spread QB goes in the top 10.

**MCrow** · 10-01-2012, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by phillyfreak7

Kid is a stud on the college level but if you've watched him play you will see the stuff I'm talking about. Granted, some of the same things were said about Cam and RGIII and they have worked out pretty well so far.

**MCrow** · 10-01-2012, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Fahnestock

So many people's jimmies are going to be rustled come April when yet another black spread QB goes in the top 10.

I think the whole "spread offense" thing has been blown out of the water in recent years. Plenty of QBs have been having success coming out of non-pro style offenses so I don't think that is as much of a knock as it used to be.

Smith could go top 10, nobody thought RGIII would have gone top 10 much less top 2 at the beginning of last season. Still, I don't think Geno Smith is quite on the same level yet as RGIII and don't see him have a huge rise in value like RGIII.

**mrh0rnet** · 10-01-2012, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by nontansto

i know your trying to be sarcastic, but lets be serious here.....how many quarterbacks in this list have won a super bowl? Zero That list looks like a disaster

Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD

All HIGH IQ POCKET PASSERS. I always laugh when people say "RG3, Cam are the future for the QB position!!". Um no *******s. Athletic, running QB's have won jack **** in this league (try and prove me wrong)

And of course, it had nothing to do with the fact that ALL of those guys had a hell of a lot of talent around them i'm sure. Nope, just the fact that they're pocket passers. Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Saints... vs Panthers, Eagles, Seahawks and Redskins. Strong argument there.

**Team Punishment** · 10-01-2012, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by MCrow

I probably would have Geno Smith as a 2-3rd rounder right now. I don't think his peformance so far this year really increases his value much as he's doing the same stuff he did last year for the most part. He stares down WRs, isn't that great on the run, makes some mind bogglingly bad throws, don't set his feet to throw and throws too much from his back foot, and locks on to WRs to the point of missing multiple other wide open WRs.

lol made me cringe.

See sig. "Missing outher multiple WRs" smh. got to love the sports misc, dont even have to watch football to analyze it.

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