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    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    who the fuk wants to eat 8 small meals lol fuk that

    I eat about 3-4 x regular breakfest lunch dinner and a snack after i workout

    if you hit your macors your good no matter if you diet or bulk
    everyone, duh, healthier,less stress on your pancreas, wont grow insulin senstivity on the long run, wont stress your thyroid grands, wont stress your everything.


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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    THIS IS EXACTLY MY PHUCKING POINT. I'm trying to tell you morons that a caloric deficit is not needed to lose weight while on IF
    Please stay in school and learn to read properly
    LOL you're a fukin idiot... please provide these studies that conclude what you are suggesting.

    BTW I do IF and love it.
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    Originally Posted by -TheKingPin- View Post
    LOL you're a fukin idiot... please provide these studies that conclude what you are suggesting.

    BTW I do IF and love it.

    This. I do IF as well and love it, but Garythesnail is borderline mentally retarded.
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    Originally Posted by MegaManny94 View Post
    This. I do IF as well and love it, but Garythesnail is borderline mentally retarded.
    Lol so basically stick to my caloric defecit to keep losing weight but do it within my 8 hour window correct? With largest meal post workout?
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    Originally Posted by MegaManny94 View Post
    Because they eat in a surplus.....? Stupid questions are really, really stupid. Srs. You can eat in a deficit OR surplus when doing IF! Huuurp durp. Way to completely ignore my question and fail to respond to what I asked for. Still no data, sir.



    btw, take a look at this. http://www.alanaragon.com/an-objecti...t-fasting.html
    Not sure if trolling or trying to rustle my jimmies
    Your missing the whole point, IF is a way for you to burn fat without having to stay in a caloric deficit.You can even gain muscle muscle while on IF.But you keep screaming IF is meant for staying below caloric deficit while although it could happen this isnt the core reasoning for IF.But ive already destroyed your pride so theres no way you will agree to anything i say so good day to you sir
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    THIS IS EXACTLY MY PHUCKING POINT. I'm trying to tell you morons that a caloric deficit is not needed to lose weight while on IF
    Please stay in school and learn to read properly
    if you're going to bring up SCIENCE, then at least post some fcking sources before saying others are talking "broscience"

    IF and IIFYM both work IMO
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    Originally Posted by -TheKingPin- View Post
    LOL you're a fukin idiot... please provide these studies that conclude what you are suggesting.

    BTW I do IF and love it.
    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    Brb 2k calorie surplus expect to lose weight oh lord what has the world come too, full of idiots now. Show me the science I already posted how meal timing is pointless with about 15 scientific journals to back ti up.
    look fat burning occurs on around the 14-16th hour of fasting regardless of calories consumed
    btw im looking for links now so dont say shiit
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    Originally Posted by Wcustom View Post
    if you're going to bring up SCIENCE, then at least post some fcking sources before saying others are talking "broscience"

    IF and IIFYM both work IMO
    im not even talking about IIFYM
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    Originally Posted by cubsfan3030 View Post
    Lol so basically stick to my caloric defecit to keep losing weight but do it within my 8 hour window correct? With largest meal post workout?


    8 hour window, 4 hour window, it doesn't really matter. It's all up to you and based on personal preference. But the reason I do it is because 2,500 cals within a 4 hour period for me can be verrrryy filling



    And eat whenever you want, if you don't want a post workout meal that's fine. I train in the morning and don't eat until about 8 at night. My deficit still remains the same so it doesn't matter.
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    Not sure if trolling or trying to rustle my jimmies
    Your missing the whole point, IF is a way for you to burn fat without having to stay in a caloric deficit.You can even gain muscle muscle while on IF.But you keep screaming IF is meant for staying below caloric deficit while although it could happen this isnt the core reasoning for IF.But ive already destroyed your pride so theres no way you will agree to anything i say so good day to you sir
    and by sir i mean *******



    lol you destroyed my pride? Please take your theories to the Nutrition misc. You would get absolutely destroyed. You are suggesting that you can still be in a caloric surplus yet lose weight. Do I even need to go into how stupid that is?
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    im not even talking about IIFYM
    I was only stating that due to someone mentioning it previously in this thread.

    And a word of advice, if you are going to debate about something.. try not to let emotions get the best of you. You seem offended to get offended easily, and being mad isn't going to help get your message across.
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    Originally Posted by MegaManny94 View Post
    8 hour window, 4 hour window, it doesn't really matter. It's all up to you and based on personal preference. But the reason I do it is because 2,500 cals within a 4 hour period for me can be verrrryy filling



    And eat whenever you want, if you don't want a post workout meal that's fine. I train in the morning and don't eat until about 8 at night. My deficit still remains the same so it doesn't matter.
    How many calories would you reccomend I consume for a man my size? 6'1" 305lbs
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    Originally Posted by MegaManny94 View Post
    lol you destroyed my pride? Please take your theories to the Nutrition misc. You would get absolutely destroyed. You are suggesting that you can still be in a caloric surplus yet lose weight. Do I even need to go into how stupid that is?
    please do the world a favor and kill yourself
    How Did i Lose weight WITHOUT STAYING IN A CALORIC DEFICIT AND I PRESERVED ALL MY MUSCLE MASS?
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    Originally Posted by Wcustom View Post
    I was only stating that due to someone mentioning it previously in this thread.

    And a word of advice, if you are going to debate about something.. try not to let emotions get the best of you. You seem offended to get offended easily, and being mad isn't going to help get your message across.
    Its impossible to not get offended when i know for a fact im 100% correct
    just like when my mother said maggots grow from spoil food even though i knew spontaneous is false
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    please do the world a favor and kill yourself
    How Did i Lose weight WITHOUT STAYING IN A CALORIC DEFICIT AND I PRESERVED ALL MY MUSCLE MASS?
    wheres everyone at now?
    i want my answer
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    please do the world a favor and kill yourself
    How Did i Lose weight WITHOUT STAYING IN A CALORIC DEFICIT AND I PRESERVED ALL MY MUSCLE MASS?
    brb eating 12k calories a day and getting shredded since I only eat it at a certain time of the day..
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    Science behind IF? Yes.

    Does IF ignore the laws of thermodynamics? No.

    IF is IIFYM in an 8 hour window. I do it on cuts so I don't keep worrying about my next puny meal all day. It's extremely convenient and completely changes the mentality on a cut, but it's still calories in vs. calories out for at least 90% of nutrition.
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    please do the world a favor and kill yourself
    How Did i Lose weight WITHOUT STAYING IN A CALORIC DEFICIT AND I PRESERVED ALL MY MUSCLE MASS?


    How would you even know if you were in a deficit or not if you didn't even count calories? Seriously, it bothers me that you are actually convinced that you are right.
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    please do the world a favor and kill yourself
    How Did i Lose weight WITHOUT STAYING IN A CALORIC DEFICIT AND I PRESERVED ALL MY MUSCLE MASS?
    You had sufficient fat/protein intake and underestimated your daily activity. It's that simple....
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    Its impossible to not get offended when i know for a fact im 100% correct
    just like when my mother said maggots grow from spoil food even though i knew spontaneous is false
    you cannot exactly estimate the amount of calories you burn in a day, so maybe u are burning more calories than you are eating. .

    IF, without calorie deficit is more of a recomposition diet (look into body recomp). . You will still need to do a calorie deficit if you wanna cut significant amount of bodyfat.
    Ive been doing IF for more than 2 years. .
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    Originally Posted by cubsfan3030 View Post
    How many calories would you reccomend I consume for a man my size? 6'1" 305lbs


    That's hard... depends on your BMR, TDEE, etc etc. I'm not sure if you're counting macros or not, which I would suggest. However, I'll just base everything off of calories for now. Since you are pretty big, I would say 3,000 to 3,250 calories assuming that your activity levels will increase with training? Monitor your weight for 2 weeks and adjust from there. If you're losing weight too fast, raise the cals. If you're losing it too slowly or even gaining weight, drop the calories.




    Keep in mind that this is a complete shot in the dark. It takes a while for people to figure out what their maintenance level calories are.
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    tried intermittent fasting a few days ago and i think it's awesome. after reading all this "eat every 3 hours to boost metabolsim" and all this other technical ch!t you get over whelmed and think you gotta be eating constantly.

    with IF all you gotta do is eat once a day pretty much at dinner time. so cot dayum easy. i lost 1kg water weight in 2 days
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    I just started IF a week ago. I start my window at about 3-5, depending whenever I get out of the gym. Cycle my carbs depending on whether it's a rest day or workout day. Have the majority of my carbs after my workout
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    I just started IF a week ago. I start my window at about 3-5, depending whenever I get out of the gym. Cycle my carbs depending on whether it's a rest day or workout day. Have the majority of my carbs after my workout
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    Originally Posted by xerbia View Post
    brb eating 12k calories a day and getting shredded since I only eat it at a certain time of the day..
    you would gain to much fat to counteract the fat burning from IF
    you fail

    Originally Posted by MegaManny94 View Post
    How would you even know if you were in a deficit or not if you didn't even count calories? Seriously, it bothers me that you are actually convinced that you are right.
    Ive tried to cut traditionally many tries with many attempts and i was barely ever hungry with IF.my first meal of the day was always at 12 even before IF and i would usualy stop eating around 10 with something small to eat if i got hungry again. and i know the foods i were eating while on IF and theres no way i could maintain a low caloric intake with it

    Originally Posted by joe17little View Post
    You had sufficient fat/protein intake and underestimated your daily activity. It's that simple....
    if you call 50-80g of protein sufficent then i guess so.
    Originally Posted by rapxiii View Post
    you cannot exactly estimate the amount of calories you burn in a day, so maybe u are burning more calories than you are eating. .

    IF, without calorie deficit is more of a recomposition diet (look into body recomp). . You will still need to do a calorie deficit if you wanna cut significant amount of bodyfat.
    Ive been doing IF for more than 2 years. .
    I stopped lifting 1 month into IF and i did no cardio whatsoever so i dont see how tv and miscing can burn a suffcient amount of calories
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    please do the world a favor and kill yourself
    How Did i Lose weight WITHOUT STAYING IN A CALORIC DEFICIT AND I PRESERVED ALL MY MUSCLE MASS?
    You are quite possibly the biggest ******* of all time. You haven't read a single one of MegaManny's posts in its entirety, its obvious. Plus, you said you werent even counting calories while on IF.. so how the fuk do yo know you if you're even in a surplus? Strong incompetent retard

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    Originally Posted by rapxiii View Post
    ^ she understood it better than most of you guys did.. mind=blown
    what is so hard to understand about eat for 8 hours straight? and fast 16 hrs?
    and no BlackKnight but whats there to worry about carb cycling if woman barely have any muscle mass to worry about
    just fast without the technical chit and your good to go
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    I've been doing it for 3 weeks. I've been experimenting with all sorts of cutting methods and have found IF to work very well.



    Due to my schedule this is how my routine goes.

    Wake up around 7 am and take 1 dose of ec. (Helps curb my appetite until it's time to eat.) (I have an 8 am class and on days I do not have class I sleep until about 10 am and take the dose when i get up.)

    Eat lunch at 12 pm. (eggs, pb on wheat for example with some form of fruit)
    Workout around 3
    Protein shake post workout
    Dinner about 6 pm (about half my calories for the day)

    Some days I will eat a light snack such as yogurt around 7:30 but most days I go from 6 pm until 12 pm the next day without eating.

    The only tough part is making it from my last meal to bed without eating. If you can make that you will be golden.

    My nutrition is just a caloric deficit.
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    what is so hard to understand about eat for 8 hours straight? and fast 16 hrs?
    and no BlackKnight but whats there to worry about carb cycling if woman barely have any muscle mass to worry about
    just fast without the technical chit and your good to go
    Lol seriously? You admit you don't even lift. And you're telling ME that I have no muscle mass to worry about? Please go.

    Originally Posted by rapxiii View Post
    ^ she understood it better than most of you guys did.. mind=blown
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    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    This is wrong
    I've been doing If for two months straight without even counting my calories and I've lost weight
    you dont count calories so how do you know you are even hitting your Maintenance calorie requirement?

    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    Everyday although I skipped some days but 1 day skip wouldnt make much a difference
    I never really go by "meals" i just eat whatever there is to eat
    you eat whatever, contradicting your opposition with IIFYM.

    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    THIS IS EXACTLY MY PHUCKING POINT. I'm trying to tell you morons that a caloric deficit is not needed to lose weight while on IF
    Please stay in school and learn to read properly
    IF protocol is meant for body recomposition (yes, you will lose weight/fat, and gain muscle slowly). However, calorie deficit is needed for losing a significant amount of bodyfat.

    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    what is so hard to understand about eat for 8 hours straight? and fast 16 hrs?
    and no BlackKnight but whats there to worry about carb cycling if woman barely have any muscle mass to worry about
    just fast without the technical chit and your good to go
    Again, you claim to knowa lot about intermittent fasting and its lean gain approach but fail to understand why people are doing low-no carbs on day offs.

    Negged for your stupid comments.
    Originally Posted by garythesnail View Post
    you would gain to much fat to counteract the fat burning from IF
    you fail

    Ive tried to cut traditionally many tries with many attempts and i was barely ever hungry with IF.my first meal of the day was always at 12 even before IF and i would usualy stop eating around 10 with something small to eat if i got hungry again. and i know the foods i were eating while on IF and theres no way i could maintain a low caloric intake with it


    if you call 50-80g of protein sufficent then i guess so.
    I stopped lifting 1 month into IF and i did no cardio whatsoever so i dont see how tv and miscing can burn a suffcient amount of calories
    you said earlier that you eat whatever and now you know what you are eating?

    80g of protein is enough to preserve muscle mass for an average person assuming you are a twig.
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