China Flexes Muscles..

**manletdingo** · 10-01-2009, 12:11 PM

the usa should have a parade like thatin washington too...

imagine........................

**Large_Emu** · 10-01-2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by 21Classic

USA owns the Oceans and Skys

Chinese arent like the dustmites in the whole iraq/afghan war where we have to go diggin through caves and ****. much like Vietnam. USA isnt made for guerilla warfare.

China isnt, theyd be fighting the way we want to fight. heads up combat. America would win eventually.

Oh how naive you are, China has 1 billion people, America has 300 million, America is in economic turmoil, China isn't.

Good luck, even Iran arnt scared of you at the moment.

**photomasterx** · 10-01-2009, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by x800venom

Genius, lets group all our military **** together for hours on end. That way, just in case somebody wants to attack us, they can wipe more of us out with less ammunition.

Of course it won't happen, just surprised it didn't come into account as a security matter.

Most of that stuff on show was dummy equipment. They are real platforms but no weapons or dummy tubes.

The real stuff is still where it's supposed to be.

The Chinese has 4 layer nuclear defense.

1) Air launched from strategic bombers.
2) Nuclear subs.
3) Silo based ICBM's.
4) Mobile vehicle based ICBM's.

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**NotStandingBy** · 10-01-2009, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by austin.j.taylor

killing chinese people might be a nice change of pace.

killing arabs is truly getting kinda old.

Racist.*

Anyway cool videos.

**Ryan711** · 10-01-2009, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Large_Emu

Oh how naive you are, China has 1 billion people, America has 300 million, America is in economic turmoil, China isn't.

Good luck, even Iran arnt scared of you at the moment.

this isn't the 1800s, troops don't win a war anymore, technology does

**Pleb** · 10-01-2009, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by M0tive

I got a lot of respect for the Royal Navy, i really do.

But the US Navy has so many advanced technological ships on the sea right now if it wanted to could probably win a war with just intimidation.

The first of Britain's new Type 45 destroyers took to the waters of the Clyde as the world's most advanced air defence ship.

"the Royal Navy operates 58 nuclear-armed Trident II D-5 submarine-launched ballistic missiles and around 200 nuclear warheads on 4 Vanguard-class ballistic missile submarines from Clyde Naval Base on Scotland's west coast."

Sorry, what?

**JiuJitsuFighter** · 10-01-2009, 12:23 PM

When a civilization goes from a defensive to an offensive footing and establishes an empire, it will overextend it's resources and fall, only to never come back again.

**NotStandingBy** · 10-01-2009, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by JiuJitsuFighter

When a civilization goes from a defensive to an offensive footing and establishes an empire, it will overextend it's resources and fall, only to never come back again.

This. US is overextending and acting like an empire even if she isn't.

Originally Posted by Ryan711

this isn't the 1800s, troops don't win a war anymore, technology does

You still need troops to occupy the land even if you manage to penetrate China somehow.

**Redgum** · 10-01-2009, 12:28 PM

All speculation.

It wouldn't be as simple as one country vs another.

If a war went nuclear, everything on the planet would be affected.

Enough with the 'we have bigger/better/more' attitude.

**Large_Emu** · 10-01-2009, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ryan711

this isn't the 1800s, troops don't win a war anymore, technology does

it still plays a major factor, and everyday China is catching up to the USA in technology and finance.

**GottaBeHUGE** · 10-01-2009, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Large_Emu

Oh how naive you are, China has 1 billion people, America has 300 million, America is in economic turmoil, China isn't.

Good luck, even Iran arnt scared of you at the moment.

You are a moran

If we had a president who actually believed in America and wasn't a pussy Iran would be plenty scared

**muscleserge** · 10-01-2009, 12:39 PM

I am willing to bet more that 80% of those are old soviet systems underneath, and out of those 80% at least 40% is built with out paying licensing fees to Russia.

China has man power but it didn't help them back in the 50s when the Russians literally mowed them down and bulldozed the bodies across the border back to china.

**faisji** · 10-01-2009, 12:40 PM

**NotStandingBy** · 10-01-2009, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Large_Emu

it still plays a major factor, and everyday China is catching up to the USA in technology and finance.

China > US in the economy already: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Originally Posted by muscleserge

I am willing to bet more that 80% of those are old soviet systems underneath, and out of those 80% at least 40% is built with out paying licensing fees to Russia.

China has man power but it didn't help them back in the 50s when the Russians literally mowed them down and bulldozed the bodies across the border back to china.

Nope, this parade is to show off 100% Chinese made stuff. As far as I am concerned, I read that these toys are equivalent to America's in many way.

**muscleserge** · 10-01-2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by NotStandingBy

Nope, this parade is to show off 100% Chinese made stuff. As far as I am concerned, I read that these toys are equivalent to America's in many way.

It might be 100% Chinese made but it still has roots in old Soviet tech, like their jets, tanks, subs, etc.
How long did it take them to get to space?

**leafs43** · 10-01-2009, 12:59 PM

The US tech is still quite a bit ahead of the Chinese.

All their missile guidance systems? Oh ya, they came from the US in the 90s. Most people don't know this. Clinton actually allowed Boeing and others to sell plans to China in the 90s.

**Illiad** · 10-01-2009, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by voltio8836

Let's just settle that China cannot overtake USA and USA will not be able to overtake China

It's hard to imagine a near-future scenario where China and America would be direct enemies in war. Neither has much to gain from conquering the other and A LOT more to lose. Both of their places as world superpowers would be comprimised and neither would make it out on top in the long run due to the loss inflicted in the struggle. Even if America defeated China, trying to convert their people to democracy would be a total exercise in futility; communism has been engrained for over half a century.

A much more likely scenario would be a quiet alliance of China and the Western Powers against the new power rising in the middle east. Fundamental Islam is spreading faster than any other religion in the world by a large margin. From Africa, to India, Indonesia, and Southern China. Radical Islam is a threat to both America and China. The Nations of Islam are a common and more practical enemy, for both powers, with much more to gain and a lot less to lose.

With long term interests in mind, a war between China and America would be a very foolish and costly engagement for both sides. Unless you want to see Islam usurp a role of world superpower, a likely outcome in the aftermath, I would pray against a war with China.

**Ryan711** · 10-01-2009, 01:04 PM

I think I'm going to stay out of these threads because there are just too many morons. China's economy is greater than the US, really? REALLY? Holy sh it, take a basic macro econ course for christs sake.

**BoockCake** · 10-01-2009, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Large_Emu

Oh how naive you are, China has 1 billion people, America has 300 million, America is in economic turmoil, China isn't.

Good luck, even Iran arnt scared of you at the moment.

LOL, UK is this= . USA is this= O

**photomasterx** · 10-01-2009, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Illiad

It's hard to imagine a near-future scenario where China and America would be direct enemies in war. Neither has much to gain from conquering the other and A LOT more to lose. Both of their places as world superpowers would be comprimised and neither would make it out on top in the long run due to the loss inflicted in the struggle. Even if America defeated China, trying to convert their people to democracy would be a total exercise in futility; communism has been engrained for over half a century.

A much more likely scenario would be a quiet alliance of China and the Western Powers against the new power rising in the middle east. Fundamental Islam is spreading faster than any other religion in the world by a large margin. From Africa, to India, Indonesia, and Southern China. Radical Islam is a threat to both America and China. The Nations of Islam are a common and more practical enemy, for both powers, with much more to gain and a lot less to lose.

With long term interests in mind, a war between China and America would be a very foolish and costly engagement for both sides. Unless you want to see Islam usurp a role of world superpower, a likely outcome in the aftermath, I would pray against a war with China.

The Chinese are not as stupid as the West.

They would never get involed with a war with an enemy that you can't see for the benifit of the West.

The long term Chinese stragegy is to let the US deplete itself in the middle east, Afghanistan and North Africa. While China builds relations with those countries and use the wastes it's economy fighting the militants.

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**jujuB** · 10-01-2009, 01:10 PM

**** got real in china.

my friend said he wanted to be a member of the cccp when he turned 25. lulz his dad called him a dumbass.

**SpamTech9** · 10-01-2009, 01:11 PM

China, Fuk Yea!

lulz

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/200..._60_years.html

**powercleanlol** · 10-01-2009, 01:16 PM

o.....m......g.................................... .....

i think i just had a 60th celebration in my pants

**SpamTech9** · 10-01-2009, 01:19 PM

^ ^ robots/10

**Illiad** · 10-01-2009, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by photomasterx

The Chinese are not as stupid as the West.

They would never get involed with a war with an enemy that you can't see for the benifit of the West.

The long term Chinese stragegy is to let the US deplete itself in the middle east, Afghanistan and North Africa. While China builds relations with those countries and use the wastes it's economy fighting the militants.

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I suppose it depends on the ambitions of China, and right now, Chinese ambitions seems pretty damned high with the spectacles they have been putting on. Not only with their military, but also culture and development. I'm not sure if China is content on letting the West chew up valuable and resource rich land in the Mid East without China eventually coming up to the plate for their piece of the pie.

Thats one of the reasons why any military success we have in Iraq and Afghanistan is kept on the downlow; as to not provoke China (or Russia) to push their way to the table for the feast of the middle east.

**photomasterx** · 10-01-2009, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by aBoostedSamurai

^ ^ robots/10

I for one welcome my new attractive fembot overlords.

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**powercleanlol** · 10-01-2009, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by aBoostedSamurai

^ ^ robots/10

yeah but you will still tap those furiously, and so will i

**Illiad** · 10-01-2009, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by aBoostedSamurai

^ ^ robots/10

Why, because they are part of something greater than themselves?

**NotStandingBy** · 10-01-2009, 01:28 PM

lol @ you guys posting pics of women

We have come so far, invented so much, developed so much, and men still basic, still drool over ladies 5000-10000 years later. Don't know if it's funny or sad.

Men...

**Shanker** · 10-01-2009, 01:35 PM

I think it is the newest weapons. Atleast the carrier missiles. I read somewhere it was just invented recently. And the plane they showcased was supposedly a mystery because the satellite the plane used wasn't round, but rectangle. So currently the world doesn't know what frequency it's on and where it sends messages to.

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