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    Originally Posted by WilyCoder View Post
    Its a drug WAR right?

    So when you go to WAR do you only view the leader as your enemy or do you view the entire army as your enemy?

    Cops are in the army of the opposite side of me in this WAR.

    Remember it wasn't my "side" that declared a "war".

    I'm certainly not going to ruin the life of any cops, ever. They cannot say the same thing about me.

    I am not the aggressor in this "war".
    When you get arrested for drugs its no ones fault but your own.

    At this point you are just rambling on...
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    Originally Posted by AMERICAZHUSTLA View Post
    so ur friend was a moron for driving drunk thanks to dui checkpoints drunk driving fatality rates are actually going through the roof

    what now?
    Please provide proof that DUI check points have made fatality rates increase.
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    That is why you should carry a weapon and not depend on someone else brah
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    Originally Posted by Forge3 View Post
    Every institution has corruption within its doors whether it is the police force, the church or whatever. Having said that their are good cops who legitimately do their job...I have met some and *******s who should never wear a badge. It just is more flagrant when those who are called to protect do not...
    This is what it breaks down to. When I do my job poorly someones PC doesn't get fixed or the network is down for a minute... When cops are jackasses things get ROYALLY fuked up. I believe they should be held to a much higher standard. They do not. Go figure.
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    Originally Posted by AMERICAZHUSTLA View Post
    newark isnt that much fun either

    it has been my expierience that the majority of police officers are pieces of **** they would rather pull people over for dui and make easy arrests than handle any real crime when i lived in philly u could drive through north philly as soon as it gets dark and witness crimes go down all night and not see one cop all night but drive through the suburbs and they got dui stops everywhere they break up parties and all other kinds of bull**** that doesnt negatively effect society
    DUI is a crime. It effect the lives of many man.
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    Originally Posted by burlyman808 View Post
    When you get arrested for drugs its no ones fault but your own.

    At this point you are just rambling on...
    Yeah and the SS Nazis were just doing there job too right?

    Was it the Jews fault for being Jewish?

    Just because something is a law does not mean it is morally justified.
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    Originally Posted by AMERICAZHUSTLA View Post
    newark isnt that much fun either


    newark is way worse than plainfield.

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    That is why you should carry a weapon and not depend on someone else brah
    no average citizen should carry. its a great way to get shot.
    its gains o clock.
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    Originally Posted by burlyman808 View Post
    Please provide proof that DUI check points have made fatality rates increase.
    quoting the head nurse at the hospital in my area because almost everyone knows where the dui checkpoints are by the time they leave the bar/party/whatever they take more back roads which are typically smaller and harder to navigate at night when ur drunk they have a ton in incidences where drivers come in cause they wrapped their car around a tree
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    Originally Posted by burlyman808 View Post
    DUI is a crime. It effect the lives of many man.
    i completely agree but the current dui system the police have or i guess it lies more in the hands of the courts does not cause any reform it seems like more of a way for them to raise money

    i cant even see why people would get behind the wheel drunk im 6'6 240 and ive slept in my mustang so many times i cant count cause i wont do it i dont know what goes through peoples heads
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    Originally Posted by WilyCoder View Post
    Yeah and the SS Nazis were just doing there job too right?

    Was it the Jews fault for being Jewish?

    Just because something is a law does not mean it is morally justified.
    you are comparing ethnic cleansing to mary jane lol
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    Originally Posted by burlyman808 View Post
    DUI is a crime. It effect the lives of many man.
    because driving drunk poses a greater threat to society than rape and murder..
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    no average citizen should carry. its a great way to get shot.
    Draft up a new Bill of Rights and get it put into effect brah. You're obviously qualified, you have a badge so you can just do whatever you want? Amirite? lmao
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    Originally Posted by burlyman808 View Post
    you are comparing ethnic cleansing to mary jane lol
    the common thread between them? cops. oppression.

    Again, I would have zero problems with police if the drug laws were changed.
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    Originally Posted by burlyman808 View Post
    DUI is a crime. It effect the lives of many man.
    I'll have to agree with this. DUI is one crime that is justified. Too many innocent lives at steak to allow a drunk person to drive.

    Now on the other hand, if I, by myself, want to smoke a little ganja... the fact that the government tries to tell you what you can and cannot do to your own body... well that's immoral. And unjustified. And if I'm causing no trouble to others...

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    Originally Posted by AMERICAZHUSTLA View Post
    so ur friend was a moron for driving drunk thanks to dui checkpoints drunk driving fatality rates are actually going through the roof

    what now?
    er, no my friends friend... I didn't even know the person... and I agree that person was a complete moron killing 2 people. What now, Im saying your downplaying drunk driving as nothing and it's no big deal like nobody is gonna get hurt.

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    Originally Posted by WilyCoder View Post
    Yeah and the SS Nazis were just doing there job too right?

    Was it the Jews fault for being Jewish?

    Just because something is a law does not mean it is morally justified.
    That is probably the most retarded comparison put forth in this entire thread.

    Oh, and in case you haven't realized it, everything you argue about the legalization of marijuana is simply your OPINION. Stop trying to legitimize it by associating it with factual moral atrocities like the holocaust that having nothing to do with anything being discussed here. It makes you look stupid...seriously.
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    Originally Posted by All_Swoled_Up View Post
    That is probably the most retarded comparison put forth in this entire thread.
    You should be a lawyer.
    Oh, and in case you haven't realized it, everything you argue about the legalization of marijuana is simply your OPINION. Stop trying to legitimize it by associating it with factual moral atrocities like the holocaust that having nothing to do with anything being discussed here. It makes you look stupid...seriously.

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    You should be a lawyer.



    Drug laws are ruining lives every day. That's not a fact?
    ruining lives by having drug laws? So your a drug junkie and your life is being ruined because you can't get your fix without worrying about being arrested?
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    Originally Posted by WilyCoder View Post
    You should be a lawyer.



    Drug laws are ruining lives every day. That's not a fact?
    It's a fact that our prisons are overrun with non-violent and victimless crime offenders.
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    unfortunately, some cops are only cops for the power and pay roll, but the huge numbers of good cops that there are in the world are constantly trying to make our world a better place. Your experience was very unfortunate, and I'm sorry it had to be that way.
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    Draft up a new Bill of Rights and get it put into effect brah. You're obviously qualified, you have a badge so you can just do whatever you want? Amirite? lmao
    theres a difference between officers carrying off duty who are trained in firearms and your average joe carrying a gun


    amiright?


    and alot of states dont allow citizens to carry anyway.
    its gains o clock.
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    Originally Posted by Seanl262 View Post
    ruining lives by having drug laws? So your a drug junkie and your life is being ruined because you can't get your fix without worrying about being arrested?
    Do some research into the subject. See how much of citizens' money goes to this "war on drugs". A prohibition which is an even larger failure than the alcohol prohibition.

    Now, end the war on drugs and instead invest this money into a more needed operation- say a war on sexual assault, murder, theft, etc. Instead of throwing crackheads in jail, try putting them into a rehabilitation program. This way, they won't be turned into a criminal by being put in jail.

    What you'd have is a happier and safer United States. But with the current status of our government, "happy" and "safe" aren't realistic values.
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    quoting the head nurse at the hospital in my area because almost everyone knows where the dui checkpoints are by the time they leave the bar/party/whatever they take more back roads which are typically smaller and harder to navigate at night when ur drunk they have a ton in incidences where drivers come in cause they wrapped their car around a tree
    Ok so no real concrete evidence then. So I am going to assume that if anything, DUI checkpoints remove more drunk drivers than add.
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    Originally Posted by rizoN17 View Post
    Do some research into the subject. See how much of citizens' money goes to this "war on drugs". A prohibition which is an even larger failure than the alcohol prohibition.

    Now, end the war on drugs and instead invest this money into a more needed operation- say a war on sexual assault, murder, theft, etc. Instead of throwing crackheads in jail, try putting them into a rehabilitation program. This way, they won't be turned into a criminal by being put in jail.

    What you'd have is a happier and safer United States. But with the current status of our government, "happy" and "safe" aren't realistic values.
    thats a typical argument by someone who is pro drug.

    Please explain how you stop somebody from being murdered, sexually asaulted, or robbed... You come up with a theory to protect people before something happens.

    I have a couple ideas... but it's probably expensive

    1. Give everyone a personal force field that automatically triggers when sexual predators are around.
    2. Create a device that reads minds of predators, thieves/robbers, killers... etc. And when the thought occurs... arrest them for premeditation.

    See where I am going with this? Your argument won't work, you can't invest money into stopping people on people crimes. It's the parents job to raise someone to have the values and morals not to do such things, also it's partially the medias job and society.\

    And guess what... we do have rehabilitation programs for drug offenders... do you think it works all the time?
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    Originally Posted by WilyCoder View Post
    the common thread between them? cops. oppression.

    Again, I would have zero problems with police if the drug laws were changed.
    The reason that you have a probrolem with them is it effects the lifestyle of a drug user is that correct to assume?
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    Originally Posted by DB791 View Post
    because driving drunk poses a greater threat to society than rape and murder..
    lol wut? I dont get it...
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    Originally Posted by HeadsUp View Post
    theres a difference between officers carrying off duty who are trained in firearms and your average joe carrying a gun


    amiright?


    and alot of states dont allow citizens to carry anyway.
    Sorry, but I do and will maintain the right to defend myself. If you feel you are smarter than the founding fathers you are DEFINITELY in the wrong line of work lol.
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    Originally Posted by LUKEDEICHER View Post
    No matter where you go or what you do in life,

    there is always one bad apple or experience in the bunch.

    Can't predict the future, but those same pigs may save your life one day.
    I feel confident in predicting that these particular cops will do no such thing, for anyone, any time soon.

    Can't rule it out, but I'm pretty close to 100% on that one.

    I mean, "in theory" Rosie O'Donnell might lose weight -- it's possible, we can't rule it out. But anyone who actually thinks that it will happen is not thinking clearly.
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    Originally Posted by rizoN17 View Post
    I'll have to agree with this. DUI is one crime that is justified. Too many innocent lives at steak to allow a drunk person to drive.

    Now on the other hand, if I, by myself, want to smoke a little ganja... the fact that the government tries to tell you what you can and cannot do to your own body... well that's immoral. And unjustified. And if I'm causing no trouble to others...

    Can a cop here please tell me that I'm wrong?
    So does this thought of "what I do to my own body is my choice" include other drugs like meth, heroin and *******?
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