Buff the stuff Bagwell got screwed by Vince so hard

[FelixTheCat1919]

Buddy Daddy and so many other solid WCW guys got the shaft so hard by Vince.

[Murph0408]

guys like Buff and Disco were great in their roles at WCW. Alex Wright, all those mid card dudes with pretty straightforward characters but nailed them perfectly.

Buff in WWE, tough time to be joining. that was such a suddenly bloated roster. You have to assume WWE was looking for reasons to cut people and Bagwell apparently gave them a few depending on which podcast/interview you listen to.

[yieldtonothing]

buff wishes he got kennedy's shaft. he would've sold his mama to be kennedy's batty boy like hbk was


buff was done by the time he had his wwe match. he was bloated, balding and had too much size for his frame compared to his peak look. yea he was set up for failure with the chit being in tacoma, but if that was ddp against booker, you know dallas would've found a way to have a solid match.

[Deathstroke]

Really hard.

[stayhomeneet]

Sounded like his attitude stunk.

Buff was an upper mid card guy, I found him entertaining enough in WCW but he was hardly someone the WWF couldn't afford to miss out on, he should have behaved himself.

DDP got screwed worse, he could have done main event business for a couple of years but WWF literally killed his career early, he had a good attitude as well.

Booker T was another who they humiliated and watered down, he put up with so much for years until they gave him a comedy heel run with the secondary world title.

Pretty much everyone from WCW with the exception of Hulk got screwed by Vince, the one I feel bad for the most was Scott Hall who had gotten clean and it was his last chance at a meaningful run and vince tore it up because Austin threw a tantrum and refused to do a job in basically a handicap match.

[squat_blaster]

Not true about Buff. Watch Buff on Dark Side of the Ring.

[drakkarman]

buff should of stayed out of wwe till at least stone cold quit...

[robreynolds1234]

Not everyone post WCW could get a nice run in WWE because the WWE roster was already stacked.

But it wasn't that bad, at least Scott Steiner, Booker T, Goldberg, Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Rey Mysterio got nice runs.

[Deathstroke]

He didn’t fit in backstage. Same as Public Enemy he didn’t pass the locker room test. Maybe even arrived with a bit of arrogance.

The Dudley boyz passed that same test when they were new in wwf.

[drakkarman]

vince bought wcw to bury it and buff was a wcw guy so

[DirtyD79]

Sounded like his attitude stunk.

Buff was an upper mid card guy, I found him entertaining enough in WCW but he was hardly someone the WWF couldn't afford to miss out on, he should have behaved himself.

DDP got screwed worse, he could have done main event business for a couple of years but WWF literally killed his career early, he had a good attitude as well.

Booker T was another who they humiliated and watered down, he put up with so much for years until they gave him a comedy heel run with the secondary world title.

Pretty much everyone from WCW with the exception of Hulk got screwed by Vince, the one I feel bad for the most was Scott Hall who had gotten clean and it was his last chance at a meaningful run and vince tore it up because Austin threw a tantrum and refused to do a job in basically a handicap match.

The whole Invasion could have been a much bigger deal than it was. Unfortunately, Vince McMahon decided to piss away a decade's worth of potential feuds and storylines just to do a victory lap over WCW and ECW because he no longer had to worry about competition.

[FelixTheCat1919]

buff wishes he got kennedy's shaft. he would've sold his mama to be kennedy's batty boy like hbk was


buff was done by the time he had his wwe match. he was bloated, balding and had too much size for his frame compared to his peak look. yea he was set up for failure with the chit being in tacoma, but if that was ddp against booker, you know dallas would've found a way to have a solid match.

Booker looked just as bad as Buff did in that match.

[daysoftheweek]

i remember a story that shane helms cracked a frozen bottle of water over buff's head for being a dick to him.

[drakkarman]

i remember a story that shane helms cracked a frozen bottle of water over buff's head for being a dick to him.

yeah i heard that too and buff was hurt going into that match after that with stitches . shane helms didnt want buff there same as the other wwe talent i bet someone got into vinces ear

[yieldtonothing]

i remember a story that shane helms cracked a frozen bottle of water over buff's head for being a dick to him.

that was on dark side lol. none of that is true

[BrickEX]

Not sure have ever seen anyone step up to the plate to defend the idea of Buff having any value post WCW after he showed up sloppy as sh*t and still battling the addictions that lead him to DDP in recent years.

Also it’s fascinating to see folks still not up to speed on the reality of the WCW contracts of the time that made it more advantageous for most of their top stars to sit at home, and thus the invasion angle was already doomed from hitting full potential.

[FelixTheCat1919]

Not sure have ever seen anyone step up to the plate to defend the idea of Buff having any value post WCW after he showed up sloppy as sh*t and still battling the addictions that lead him to DDP in recent years.

Also it’s fascinating to see folks still not up to speed on the reality of the WCW contracts of the time that made it more advantageous for most of their top stars to sit at home, and thus the invasion angle was already doomed from hitting full potential.

If I recall right, Buff's old WCW contract wasn't much longer once Vince bought WCW. So Buff rushed to volunteer to get back to work. Could he have been better? Sure, but he didn't look THAT bad, and he was only 31 at the time. Dude still had time to get back up to speed if they wouldn't have just canned his ass so fast. What amazes me is how Vince screwed just about every former WCW guy over, yet WWE homers from the time can't put that into consideration when it comes to how Buff was treated.

[Phil9]

If I recall right, Buff's old WCW contract wasn't much longer once Vince bought WCW. So Buff rushed to volunteer to get back to work. Could he have been better? Sure, but he didn't look THAT bad, and he was only 31 at the time. Dude still had time to get back up to speed if they wouldn't have just canned his ass so fast. What amazes me is how Vince screwed just about every former WCW guy over, yet WWE homers from the time can't put that into consideration when it comes to how Buff was treated.

According to Buff, he was still owed around $60,000 from his WCW contract but had it nullified and signed with WWF. Which turned out to be a bad idea, partially because of his own actions and also because of WWF's stigma towards former WCW people.