California fast food workers are now demanding a $30 minimum wage

[JayJ350]

And you have no knowledge of finance, economics nor the labour market, either theoretical or applied.


Hence, having engaged in “name calling” yourself, (specifically, see below) you are now backtracking rapidly.



You are yet to offer a single counter argument to what is a well-established field of economics.

Bruh, you're spewing bullchit and trying to act like you're an expect. Might as well put on the clown makeup and make the image complete.

[JayJ350]

Not an argument. If 20 factory workers agreed to strike to negotiate a higher wage, is there anything wrong with that? Or is it only wrong if they call it a union and it gets big enough?

You need to exercise nuance. Unions are ripe for corruption at large enough scales, just like everything else, but that doesn't render the action of worker negotiation a bad thing.

Oh yeah, because unions have sure worked out great for Detroit!

[r32gojirra]

Bruh, you're spewing bullchit and trying to act like you're an expect. Might as well put on the clown makeup and make the image complete.

Lmao

Point being? Name calling is not a substitute for valid knowledge.

Lmao

Also let’s not forget you pissed your pants and ran away like a little girl when I called your bluff

[JayJ350]

Lmao



Lmao

Also let’s not forget you pissed your pants and ran away like a little girl when I called your bluff

What bluff? I asked what your knowledge is when it comes to running and operating a food business and you tried to get into a dick measuring contest about tax returns lol.

[eddiehaskell]

Could've sworn i made a thread last week asking why dems weren't politicking for $30/hr this election cycle

[mchabs]

if they want $30/hr then i should demand $300/hr right?

cost of living right?

[r32gojirra]

What bluff? I asked what your knowledge is when it comes to running and operating a food business and you tried to get into dick measuring contest about tax returns lol.

Nope

You asked about finances and running a business

So what you're telling me is how you know nothing about finances or running a business.

Both topics about which I know infinitely more than you

Now phukk off and think about why you can’t even earn minimum wage

[JayJ350]

if they want $30/hr then i should demand $300/hr right?

cost of living right?

"muh living wage"

According to r32gojirra that should have zero impact on pricing because he is such an expert on business management.

[JayJ350]

Nope

You asked about finances and running a business



Both topics about which I know infinitely more than you

Now phukk off and think about why you can’t even earn minimum wage

I get it dude, you're incredibly insecure and desperate to simp for dems.

[mchabs]

Yup. California is a democrat supermajority, meaning it's got virtually zero republican representation or leadership, yet somehow it's problems are due to both parties lol

it's unfortunate. there's still plenty of people who vote red, just not enough. drive through a place like temecula and you'll see trump flags everywhere. unfortunately our politics are controlled by the bay area f ags

[JayJ350]

it's unfortunate. there's still plenty of people who vote red, just not enough. drive through a place like temecula and you'll see trump flags everywhere. unfortunately our politics are controls by the bay area f ags

Yup, I live in The Bay so I know what it's like.

[r32gojirra]

"muh living wage"

According to r32gojirra that should have zero impact on pricing because he is such an expert on business management.

Post up your credentials SNAP boi

You should love the democrats, they live to hand out welfare to people like you

[MiscMathematician]

lol

[mchabs]

Yup, I live in The Bay so I know what it's like.

Bro I spent 2 weeks in Mountain View to dogsit for my cousin while he was on vacation and I wanted to rope. Would rather live in Kharkiv, Ukraine

[Luc1fer]

Oh yeah, because unions have sure worked out great for Detroit!

You could at least try to engage in discussion

[havoc00]

Drs want to unionize now too

Doctors employed by Delaware’s dominant medical system, ChristianaCare, have petitioned the National Labor Relations Board to vote on forming a union, WHYY News has learned.

Two-thirds of the more than 400 physicians who are on staff at the health care system’s main Delaware operations — Christiana and Wilmington hospitals, Helen F. Graham Cancer Center and the Middletown stand-alone emergency care center — signed cards seeking authorization to hold an election, union organizers said. The petition, which only required a 30% vote, was delivered to the NLRB office in Philadelphia late Tuesday.

The union would be the first in the 136-year history of ChristianaCare, Delaware’s largest private employer with about 11,600 staff members. Should the doctors elect to form a union, the next step would be collective bargaining on a contract to address duties, wages and other issues.

Dr. Ragu Sanjeev, a ChristianaCare internist and leader in the unionization effort, told WHYY News in an exclusive interview that he and his colleagues are taking the unprecedented step because physicians have been overworked to the point that many have left ChristianaCare, and that administrators have not addressed concerns about understaffing coming out of the pandemic.

“We have still not been able to staff up enough to where us physicians can get back to just focusing on taking care of patients,” Sanjeev said. “We all went to med school to primarily take good care of patients and keeping them healthy and getting them better once they get into the hospital, especially when they are at their sickest. And because of the hospital’s mismanagement of its employees, especially physicians, a lot of good doctors [who are] well-respected in the community have been leaving.

https://whyy.org/articles/christiana...filed-burnout/




A new generation of doctors struggling with ever-increasing workloads and crushing student debt is helping drive unionization efforts in a profession that historically hasn't organized.

Why it matters: Physicians in training, like their peers in other industries, increasingly see unions as a way to boost their pay and protect themselves against grueling working conditions as they launch their careers.

It also comes amid a wave of unionization and labor actions by nurses and other caregivers across a health care system that's still dealing with high levels of burnout.
What they're saying: "We deserve an increased salary to be able to afford to live in one of the most expensive areas in the United States," said Ali Duffens, a third-year internal medicine resident at Kaiser Permanente's San Francisco Medical Center.

She's among the 400 residents at Kaiser's Northern California system filing to unionize earlier this month.
Duffens earns about $82,000 per year, while paying $3,000 a month for rent and facing $350,000 in medical school loans.
The big picture: The Kaiser residents are part of a growing number of younger peers in medicine who have been unionizing in recent years.

The number of medical residents in unions has about doubled to more than 32,000 in three years, per CalMatters.
In the last year, residents at Montefiore Medical Center, Stanford Health Care, George Washington University and the University of Pennsylvania voted to unionize, per WBUR.
"The cost of day care ... in a month is about half of my salary in total, and the cost of a nanny is essentially the entirety of my salary," Leah Rethy, an internal medicine resident with Penn Medicine, told NPR last year.
Residents can work as much as 80 hours per week while earning far less than their older colleagues.
Yes, but: Just about 6%-7% of physicians are estimated to be in unions.

Historically, doctors have thought they could just suck up the long hours and relatively low pay in training as part of the tradition of medicine, said Robert Wachter, chair of the department of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco.
"For a new generation, they look at it and say, 'That's crazy. I can't believe you did that. I want to work hard, but I also want a life and I want a family, and I want a reasonable income,'" he said.
And it's not just younger doctors. Those more established in their careers are also unionizing as they see the industry changing in ways that they think undermine their profession.

In recent months, attending physicians at Salem Hospital, owned by Mass General Brigham, and a Cedars Sinai-owned anesthesiology practice filed to unionize.
About 600 doctors at Allina Health in Minnesota and Wisconsin last fall agreed to form what appears to be the largest union of private sector physicians.

https://whyy.org/articles/christiana...filed-burnout/

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/15/doc...n-z-millennial

[Luc1fer]

if they want $30/hr then i should demand $300/hr right?

cost of living right?

Go for it, and see if you get the $300 - kudos if so.

On a serious note, the issue is when government gets involved. Government shouldn't be involved with unions.

But there's nothing inherently wrong with unionization. It would be dumb not to use leverage to negotiate.

[FallOutBrah]

the big boys in charge will pass the cost onto the consumer unfortunately if they do this. they wont sacrifice profits.

[r32gojirra]

Go for it, and see if you get the $300 - kudos if so.

On a serious note, the issue is when government gets involved. Government shouldn't be involved with unions.

But there's nothing inherently wrong with unionization. It would be dumb not to use leverage to negotiate.

***marxism intensifies***

Corporate bootlickers in a shambles rn

[r32gojirra]

the big boys in charge will pass the cost onto the consumer unfortunately if they do this. they wont sacrifice profits.

Nope. If for any reason a company can raise prices, they will already have done so, to the full extent that will maximise their profits.

They don’t need to wait for wages or other costs to rise. They will stick you for as much as they possibly can, regardless.

[NitrogenWidget]

Yup. California is a democrat supermajority, meaning it's got virtually zero republican representation or leadership, yet somehow it's problems are due to both parties lol

at least they recognize there is a problem.
that's progress.
somewhat.

[Anachron]

Ah I see

You’re a pussy who backflips when you get called out

Could have just said that to begin with

Brah, you're arguing with a guy who was posting about his dad's car(s), pretending they were his.

[r32gojirra]

Brah, you're arguing with a guy who was posting about his dad's car(s), pretending they were his.

Hey c’mon I’m not Rain Melvin

I can’t memorise every nobody-ass moron who posts here

[ButWhoWasNoodz]

ever notice whenever a lib is in charge libs always say "both sides" but when it's a republican it's only the republicans fault.

Exactly. And when a lib Newsome is caught giving his rich donors exceptions to the minimum wage rules, it's "but blumpf did it too"

[Dave22reborn]

While I don’t think anyone “deserves” anything, a lot of miscers really are simps for corporations. Don’t realize they’ve actually been brainwashed to do the bidding of large corporations.

It’s perfectly valid for workers to unionize for leverage and negotiate better terms. That’s also just part of the free market. But I know people will get triggered by the word “union”.

How will machines and AI unionize?

[N0rds]

[Adam16121]

Between unions and corporations, I think unions are the lesser of the two evils. There’s corruption in both, but corrupt unions and corrupt multinationals tend to find a more of a ying yang harmony than corrupt corporations and the individuals they squeeze, who have little leverage.

[Islandboyo]

Yet again dumb cuckservatives fall into the trap of fighting against liberals on these wage issues when they should be asking why is the economy so twisted and ****ed up in the first place?


Retard cuckservatives will forever be a hamster running on a wheel. Never going anywhere or accomplishing anything. Yeah no **** a wage increase won’t do chit in our chitty economy. When are you cucks gonna start asking why inflation is even a thing, or why we need to have a banker/speculation jew economy in the first place

[TryingMen]

Shocking news! I would not have expected this!

[guest89]

Nope. If for any reason a company can raise prices, they will already have done so, to the full extent that will maximise their profits.

They don’t need to wait for wages or other costs to rise. They will stick you for as much as they possibly can, regardless.

And yet any time minimum wages are raised. Prices of products also raise as well. Maybe it works differently in Australia and y'all can hike minimum wages over and over again and prices remain the same for everything. But we haven't seen that in our economy. Not all businesses are mega-corporations worth billions of dollars that can tolerate repeatedly hiking the minimum wage it must pay to their employees.