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    Question Does anyone here who has a high IQ actually believe in God and an after life?

    High IQ brahs only

    When we die literally nothing happens you just go to sleep. There is no after life heaven etc
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    God told me to just man the **** up... don't ask for **** ,just go out and get it
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    75:1-6
    I do swear by the Day of Judgment!
    And I do swear by the self-reproaching soul!
    Do people think We cannot reassemble their bones?
    Yes ˹indeed˺! We are ˹most˺ capable of restoring ˹even˺ their very fingertips.
    Still people want to deny what is yet to come,
    asking ˹mockingly˺, “When is this Day of Judgment?”

    50:1-3
    Qaf. By the glorious Quran!
    ˹All will be resurrected,˺ yet the deniers are astonished that a warner has come to them from among themselves ˹warning of resurrection˺. So the disbelievers say, “This is an astonishing thing!
    ˹Will we be returned to life,˺ when we are dead and reduced to dust? Such a return is impossible.”

    23:80-83
    And He is the One Who gives life and causes death, and to Him belongs the alternation of the day and night. Will you not then understand?
    But they ˹just˺ say what their predecessors said.
    They said, “Once we are dead and reduced to dust and bones, will we really be resurrected?
    We have already been promised this, as well as our forefathers earlier. This is nothing but ancient fables!”
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    The whole concept of life itself and existence is crazy. I just can't rule anything out to be honest.
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    No. Old timey scientists had to pretend they did, so you hear that cope from sky wizardcels.

    Guys like Einstein were very clearly atheists.
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    Not high iq but I'll comment anyways, forgive me OP. I am a monotheist. That is the very heart and essence of everything in my life. Pray everyday and will never stop.
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    Originally Posted by isawthesign View Post
    The whole concept of life itself and existence is crazy. I just can't rule anything out to be honest.
    This. I have my own beliefs through direct experience and rationalizations but when you really narrow down concentration & sit and think, wtf even is this? What even am I perceiving rn?
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    I guess the better question is - what makes you say that God doesn't exist? 🤔 How do you explain things like your soul and such as well as the very birth of this universe and the human race? 🤔🤔 Do you think there's no creator or higher being at all? 🤔🤔🤔

    Afterlife I guess is something different 😄 the Torah doesn't actually mention heaven or hell so we don't know much about it 🤔 Different religions believe in different things when it comes to afterlife 🤔🤔

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    Not high iq but I'll comment anyways, forgive me OP. I am a monotheist. That is the very heart and essence of everything in my life. Pray everyday and will never stop.
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    Your sub consciousness has to go somewhere

    Sub Consciousness never ceases to be present srs

    Your perception of the universe will always be on so to speak
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    If you've ever seen someone die, actually witnessed the moment of death, you see the light go out in their eyes. According to science, that energy cannot just stop. It has to go somewhere.

    That and we have no clue what created everything. A divine creator makes just as much sense as "in the beginning there was nothing, then it exploded". In fact, the JWST has already started showing things that dispute the big bang theory as it currently sits.
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    Originally Posted by bigcat3655 View Post
    According to science, that energy cannot just stop. It has to go somewhere.
    Oh it goes somewhere.

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    Originally Posted by bigcat3655 View Post
    If you've ever seen someone die, actually witnessed the moment of death, you see the light go out in their eyes. According to science, that energy cannot just stop. It has to go somewhere.
    Yeah that is a trip. When you hear the “death crackle” and the spark in their eyes goes out it is the weirdest thing and it becomes scarily silent.
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    Even people who don't believe in God seem to get weird and change their tune as they get older. It's like they can't accept that this life is all there is. They need to believe there is something better that happens after they die.

    For a forum that uses the word cope so much, God is the ultimate cope.
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    Using a person’s IQ to validate a belief ( either way) is ad hominem and does not add or remove any legitimacy to the claim itself.

    Every high IQ person could believe one way or the other, that is not evidence of the specific belief.


    Originally Posted by Mark604 View Post
    Even people who don't believe in God seem to get weird and change their tune as they get older. It's like they can't accept that this life is all there is. They need to believe there is something better that happens after they die.
    Again, not evidence of anything. Suggestive of the very obvious anxiety that comes with the idea of non-existence


    “there is no atheist in a fox hole”

    Our subconscious desire to be immortal, and natural fear of death/non-existence doesn’t mean god exists or not.


    I agree, a belief in God is cope.

    Personally I don’t view “coping” as a bad thing in and of itself like the misc does for some reason. If you are not coping with your issues you are ignoring them.
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    Dinesh D'Souza has a reasonable IQ, as does Peter Singer. Though I disagree with neither of their views, really. I think Dinesh puts forward the case for God fairly decently, but it's a lost battle as I see it. There is no God, nor any being that truly ever cared about the creation. In all likelihood, we're an accident in evolution, as shown by the behavior of the modern individual to a large extent.
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    The man with the highest IQ ever does, so that should be enough for you midwit
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    Originally Posted by Rotmaxxer View Post
    I guess the better question is - what makes you say that God doesn't exist? ������ How do you explain things like your soul and such as well as the very birth of this universe and the human race? ������������ Do you think there's no creator or higher being at all? ���������������� �

    Afterlife I guess is something different ������ the Torah doesn't actually mention heaven or hell so we don't know much about it ������ Different religions believe in different things when it comes to afterlife ������������
    I did watch a video on how the Jews lost the concept of the afterlife while in the Quran, one of the first things Allah told Moses at the burning bush on the mountain was that the hour (day of judgment) is surely to come.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdJPNLnf3nc
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    Originally Posted by NeoTheCatt View Post
    Your sub consciousness has to go somewhere

    Sub Consciousness never ceases to be present srs

    Your perception of the universe will always be on so to speak
    Absolute cope
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    Dumbass here.

    Yes I believe in God, but not in the external sense.

    Spirituality has taken my interest and it's been a complex and difficult journey to say the least.
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    Using a person’s IQ to validate a belief ( either way) is ad hominem and does not add or remove any legitimacy to the claim itself.

    Every high IQ person could believe one way or the other, that is not evidence of the specific belief.




    Again, not evidence of anything. Suggestive of the very obvious anxiety that comes with the idea of non-existence


    “there is no atheist in a fox hole”

    Our subconscious desire to be immortal, and natural fear of death/non-existence doesn’t mean god exists or not.
    Basically everything you just said is cope. Yeah, even an atheist in his hour of desperation would be willing to beg for mercy to live another day. The very idea of God was man made due to unwillingness to cope.
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    Originally Posted by Mark604 View Post
    Basically everything you just said is cope. Yeah, even an atheist in his hour of desperation would be willing to beg for mercy to live another day. The very idea of God was man made due to unwillingness to cope.
    I edited my post two minutes before you made this post to suggest the same thing. Agreed 100%


    I would add additional intentions such as power/control and money.
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    Originally Posted by bigcat3655 View Post
    If you've ever seen someone die, actually witnessed the moment of death, you see the light go out in their eyes. According to science, that energy cannot just stop. It has to go somewhere.
    If you ever put a nice hot plate of food on your table and then don't eat it, it will get cold. According to science that energy cannot just stop. It has to go somewhere. Does that mean steak and taters must have an afterlife? If not, where does the energy go?
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    The low IQ take is that science and religion are at odds (science like science, not "science" ie. faucism).

    Or rather belief in a creator instead of religion or whatever
    Would kick em in the nuts
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    Originally Posted by isawthesign View Post
    The whole concept of life itself and existence is crazy. I just can't rule anything out to be honest.
    This. I think you’re probably a midwit if you are a fully physicalist srs.
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    Originally Posted by BrightThru2014 View Post
    This. I think you’re probably a midwit if you are a fully physicalist srs.
    How is it so mining blowing?
    Flukes do happen

    Just like winning 300 million lottery
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    Originally Posted by Mark604 View Post
    Even people who don't believe in God seem to get weird and change their tune as they get older. It's like they can't accept that this life is all there is. They need to believe there is something better that happens after they die.

    For a forum that uses the word cope so much, God is the ultimate cope.
    Even if you believe this, what’s the point of trying to existentially disturb others? It feels like a cope for your own nihilistic misery.
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    Originally Posted by TOUCHEDbyMany View Post
    How is it so mining blowing?
    Flukes do happen

    Just like winning 300 million lottery
    Sure the exact conditions of Earth can be a fluke, but why is there anything at all in the first place?
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