Almost everyone would swiftly lose weight with this daily allowance, even with a sedentary lifestyle. Almost everyone also eats well above this amount anyway.
So, does the recommendation deliberately factor in what in many cases would be a huge caloric deficit in an endeavor to combat the obesity epidemic, or is it a sincere generalized estimation of what would be a break-even amount, accounting for females, the elderly, the inactive, etc.? After all, physical activity is also recommended, so one would assume that it is already implicitly relevant to dietary recommendations as well.
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01-21-2022, 11:05 AM #1
Does the 2000 calorie daily recommendation account for the prevalence of obesity?
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01-21-2022, 11:12 AM #2
Isn’t it something to see home videos of people back in the 60s, 70s and 80s as compared to the screen generations of today?
A lot has changed.
Food portions and food preparation has certainly changed.
Activity level has certainly changed
PE requirements in schools have changed
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01-21-2022, 11:43 AM #3
The daily calorie recommendation is irrelevant to obesity since outside of this forum the vast majority of people don’t track calories at all or have any idea of what their intake is. Even people who do the various fad diets generally don’t count calories.
I personally don’t track calories and have no accurate idea what my intake is, other than a logical range via assumption. I adjust to eating “more”, “less” or “about the same” based on the mirror.
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01-21-2022, 12:04 PM #4
It’s a pretty fair amount for the average adult who doesn’t exercise. Like leaner side, low muscle mass.
Like my brother 5’8 145ish doesn’t look super skinny but low muscle mass and doesn’t exercise. He eats about that muchSuperHercules crew
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01-21-2022, 01:06 PM #5
About the time you were making that post, I was having a conversation with a tenant of mine. He had lost about 70 pounds and his blood pressure was super low. He went to see a doctor because he didn't feel well. He is an electrician in a refinery, he's constantly on the move climbing ladders and walking around carrying heavy loads 60 hours a week. Doctor said he was undernourished with his 2000 cal a day diet. Doctor told him to eat 5000 cals a day and gave him T injections. He started feeling better.
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Absolutely. Everyone I know who struggles with their weight has absolutely no idea what they are putting into their mouth. Many think it's because of their "low metabolism". They also don't want to listen if you tell them it's all CICO. Used to be that guy myself so not entitled to sit on a high horse. I think it mostly comes down to not lying to yourself and so many people do that.
You're lucky to not have to track calories though. If I don't do that I'll gain a lot of weight fast no question and end up having to cut way too often!
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01-21-2022, 10:58 PM #17
The original FDA recommendations were based off of studies on developing countries. The individuality of the US varies greatly and diet is no exception.
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I just have 1-2 ready-to-drinks that have a few grams of fat and a few grams of sugar for taste. They usually have a modest list of vitamins/minerals on it too which is good because I get lazy with multivitamins and creatine right now.
I think the appetite is more a product of how much work you're doing, and it's more reflected on your concurrent physical condition, or some sort of set point if you will.
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I eat similar-ish amounts of food categories for meals... meat-fish or plant crap, starch, veggies... so it's not that hard. Plus I don't freak out if I stuff my face at a family or group meal.
I like Ensure Protein Max - 30g protein, 150 cals, 100mg caffeine, vits-mins - when I'm on the go and can't make a shake, in case you ever want to try it.
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From here: https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/ (Appendix 2 in the guidelines):
"The total number of calories a person needs each day varies depending on the person’s age, sex, height, weight, and level of physical activity. In addition, a need to lose, maintain, or gain weight, and other factors affect how many calories should be consumed. Estimated amounts of calories needed to maintain energy balance for various age and sex groups at three different levels of physical activity are provided in Table A2-1 for toddlers ages 12 through 23 months and Table A2-2 for ages 2 and older. These estimates are based on the Estimated Energy Requirements (EER) equations, using reference heights (average) and reference weights (healthy) for each age-sex group. For toddlers, children, and adolescents, reference height and weight vary by age. For adults, the reference man is 5 feet 10 inches tall and weighs 154 pounds. The reference woman is 5 feet 4 inches tall and weighs 126 pounds."My 100% free website: healthierwithscience.com
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