Harvard scientist: Experts refused lab leak theory because of Trump

[fitnessislife]

TDS truly is a mental illness.

Harvard scientist says experts refused to consider lab leak theory to avoid being called 'racist'

https://independentchronicle.com/har...uPOCUOHlcg-fvc

A scientist from Harvard and MIT said her colleagues denied any possibility of a lab leak theory because they didn't want to be seen as "a tool for racists" or be associated with former President Donald Trump.

"At the time, it was scarier to be associated with Trump and to become a tool for racists, so people didn't want to publicly call for an investigation into lab origins," Alina Chan, a postdoctoral associate at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard University said.

"I know a lot of people want to have a smoking gun," Chan continued. It's more like breadcrumbs everywhere, and they're not always leading in one direction. It's like the whole floor is covered in breadcrumbs."


Chan says it could be possible that the scientists at the Wuhan lab were genetically engineering viruses and tweaking with virus samples. She added that finding evidence of such work would be very difficult to do so.

"You can do recombination without leaving a trace," she said. "Basically, it's like you can 3D-print clothing with no seams, so it's difficult to tell if anything has been manipulated or stitched together in a lab."

Chan made clear that she is not fully on board with the lab leak theory and says it's "definitely possible" that the virus evolved in nature. She contends that since neither theory can be disproven at this time, both must be investigated to find the truth.

All the evidence right now is circumstantial, and it's consistent with both lab and natural origins," Chan continued. "There's precedents for lab leaks, the genetic data could swing either way, and the epidemiological data, which is how it unfolded in Wuhan, can also swing either way. None of this is pointing in any one direction."

Chan was one of 18 experts who signed a letter in May demanding the government thoroughly investigate the Wuhan lab leak theory.

"As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general, the United States and 13 other countries, and the European Union that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve," the letter stated.

[A-GAME]

TryuST tha Scienth okaY gUIzee

[OPGenesis]

Trust the science, baby.

Srsly, there is nothing "scientific" about the scientific community.

It's comprised of little dick incel geeks who have a god complex.

Their peer review system is a joke.

And their hypotheses are a joke.

Everything boils down to politics and money.

And corruption.

[chaunce54]

Just shut up science denier and trust the science!

[128]

I stopped trusting the experts when they were silent if not supportive of BLM “protests” but chirped whenever good people wanted to harmlessly enjoy themselves in public.

Partisan pieces of chit

[dabbmw2002]

Do you know how badly I would love to trust the science? How badly I would love to trust the CIA? But they keep lying so I can't.

[LieutenantGains]

I stopped trusting the experts when they were silent if not supportive of BLM “protests” but chirped whenever good people wanted to harmlessly enjoy themselves in public.

Partisan pieces of chit

Liar

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...virus-pandemic

Dr. Fauci tells Congress attending protests is not advised amid the coronavirus pandemic

[Streetbull]

Isn’t calling someone or something ‘racist’ a sort of ad hominem argument?

Suppose a brilliant surgeon who saves many lives, of all kinds of people, despises black people but saves them anyway? Should he or she be fired as a surgeon?

[wincel]

It's pretty clear cut that you will never be able to prove it either way. So the entire line of thinking only serves to hurt US-China relations. It simply isn't productive or useful to continue pushing this crap, lab leak or not. Also, there is very little evidence it was a lab leak. Actually, there is no evidence whatsoever that it was a lab leak, but there is a lot of speculation. Meanwhile, there are good reasons to believe it is zoonotic.

Frankly, no one will ever be able to prove it one way or the other. And there is no equivalency here either. The majority of scientists do not support the lab leak hypothesis.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01529-3

[frankdtank20]

Trust the science, baby.

Srsly, there is nothing "scientific" about the scientific community.

It's comprised of little dick incel geeks who have a god complex.

Their peer review system is a joke.

And their hypothesis' are a joke.

Everything boils down to politics and money.

And corruption.

There's plenty of incredible science out there, but a lot gets swept under the rug for $$$. Usually by regulators, sometimes by the big players in an industry

I read about an ultrasound treatment that was highly effective in helping reverse Alzheimer's a good 6 or 7 years ago. Still being held up from use even with all positive trial results.

Portable MRI machines. One company got FDA approval finally last year. Costs just 5% of what the large original ones do, can be powered using a standard electrical outlet, read immediately via a laptop giving real time results. You could bring them to a patient's house in a van. We'll probably barely see them in the USA for another decade. The MRI industry itself is massive and will do all it can to stop these. And when these do get used a lot you can bet your ass the FDA won't give another company approval for 10-20 years.

[wincel]

Do you know how badly I would love to trust the science? How badly I would love to trust the CIA? But they keep lying so I can't.

The best thing about science is you don't need to trust anything. Demand evidence. What evidence is there of a lab leak? There you go. Meanwhile we have this for zoonotic origin:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

[wincel]

There's plenty of incredible science out there, but a lot gets swept under the rug for $$$. Usually by regulators, sometimes by the big players in an industry

I read about an ultrasound treatment that was highly effective in helping reverse Alzheimer's a good 6 or 7 years ago. Still being held up from use even with all positive trial results.

Portable MRI machines. One company got FDA approval finally last year. Costs just 5% of what the large original ones do, can be powered using a standard electrical outlet, read immediately via a laptop giving real time results. You could bring them to a patient's house in a van. We'll probably barely see them in the USA for another decade. The MRI industry itself is massive and will do all it can to stop these. And when these do get used a lot you can bet your ass the FDA won't give another company approval for 10-20 years.

Portable mri? I'd be curious to see how it would generate a powerful enough magnetic field.

[OPGenesis]

The best thing about science is you don't need to trust anything. Demand evidence. What evidence is there of a lab leak? There you go. Meanwhile we have this for zoonotic origin:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

Oh.

Cool.

More propaganda.

Lol @ anyone who clicks on that link.

[wincel]

Oh.

Cool.

More propaganda.

Lol @ anyone who clicks on that link.

Lol @ the Russian labeling Nature propaganda. lmfao

[Kane_89]

The best thing about science is you don't need to trust anything. Demand evidence. What evidence is there of a lab leak? There you go. Meanwhile we have this for zoonotic origin:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

Pompeo said he has seen concrete evidence of a lab leak.

He will deliver, we just have to wait.

[wincel]

Pompeo said he has seen concrete evidence of a lab leak.

He will deliver, we just have to wait.

Damn well if Pompeo said so...

lmao

[Hypernation]

It's pretty clear cut that you will never be able to prove it either way. So the entire line of thinking only serves to hurt US-China relations. It simply isn't productive or useful to continue pushing this crap, lab leak or not. Also, there is very little evidence it was a lab leak. Actually, there is no evidence whatsoever that it was a lab leak, but there is a lot of speculation. Meanwhile, there are good reasons to believe it is zoonotic.

Frankly, no one will ever be able to prove it one way or the other. And there is no equivalency here either. The majority of scientists do not support the lab leak hypothesis.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01529-3

Shut up you zoonotic bloat lord.

[nin-com-poop]

Get rid of federal funding for science. I mean...science is racist.

[OPGenesis]

LOL @ wincel.





Nature publisher bows to Chinese censorship

https://www.timeshighereducation.com...ese-censorship


China clamping down on coronavirus research, deleted pages suggest

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-pages-suggest

Just lol.

[wincel]

LOL @ wincel.





Nature publisher bows to Chinese censorship

https://www.timeshighereducation.com...ese-censorship


China clamping down on coronavirus research, deleted pages suggest

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-pages-suggest

Nature is the most prestigious scientific journal. LOL @ you.

I'm sure an engineer like you has never read any Nature publications though.

[nin-com-poop]

Nature is the most prestigious scientific journal. LOL @ you.

In your puny head.

[wincel]

In your puny head.

And the heads of the not so puny researchers that drag you forward, kicking and screaming.

[dabbmw2002]

Stopped feeding the troll.

[NitrogenWidget]

Pompeo said he has seen concrete evidence of a lab leak.

He will deliver, we just have to wait.

just like Schiff and his Russia collusion evidence?

[NitrogenWidget]

Get rid of federal funding for science. I mean...science is racist.

these Harvard *******s should have their funding pulled.
but we know that won't happen because #orangemanstillbad.

[Kane_89]

just like Schiff and his Russia collusion evidence?

The senior govt official directly in charge of the lab leak investigation

VS.

a politician with no access to the investigation, looking to score points before the midterms.

Pretty wide gap there.

[sooby]

so they are admitting that their TDS prevented them from thinking rationally and being objective? And they let politics get in the way of it all?

just lol @ "Science"

[Bodhy]

Um, no, the scientific community favours the zoonotic hypothesis over the lab leak because all the scientific evidence is on one end of the discussion.

They're not holding to the zoonotic theory, in the process either committing academic fraud or withholding vital scientific evidence, just to mess with a narcissistic businessman from the U.S.

[wincel]

Wait, I thought you previously said the majority of scientific evidence, not all.

It's actually all. There is zero scientific evidence for the lab leak. That being said, the evidence itself is quite weak. So an appropriate answer to any question about the origin is "we don't know, but it is likely zoonotic".

[foXs]

Tired of beating this horse to death.
Let this idiots ruin the nation with whatever stupid policy they have, they have 3 years left. Get out there in the next election, win and hopefully return things back to normal, perhaps improve certain policies.
All it takes is a strong, intelligent leader who can talk the talk and walk the walk. Your parties are not letting people like that through because they have become corrupt.

I think American people also have to take a good look at their parties and make some voting changes themselves. Both parties couldn't find a worse selection to chose from, bunch of idiots and dinosaurs who should've been gone long ago. Is it really that hard to find someone intelligent, well spoken and reasonable candidate to run for office? Someone who could unite the nation?
A good leader could easily end this woke madness, it's become an absolute circus.