Last fall, a few of us took part in a competition/collaborative effort where we uploaded our lifts and challenged each other to greater progress. It was fun, and to the best of my knowledge all of us made improvements.
My squat is finally out of pathetic territory but still needs a lot of work to be more than barely decent, and I especially yearn to get a deadlift over 500. In the stint last year, I got five plates over my knees but failed at the lockout... So with hard work and determination, that should not be over the horizon.
Who wants to do something similar this spring and summer?
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03-26-2021, 06:50 AM #1
Calling anyone interested in a friendly strength competition for this spring/summer
Bench: 350
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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03-26-2021, 06:59 AM #2
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03-26-2021, 07:19 AM #3
We could make it more formally competitive and calculate and compare Wilks, and Big 5 sounds perfect to me. Going that route would be better for me personally, as that will force me to be sensitive to regaining the weight I've lost since then. The OHP has been on my mind a lot lately. I've stalled out at 3 plates on the bench and think moving into some new ground for presses would be the best next move in the long game. My primary goal is getting that deadlift though.
Do you have any specific goals with a particular exercise? Big 5 comp sounds like a good comprehensive approach, in lieu of anyone having specific goals outside of that.Bench: 350
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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03-26-2021, 07:25 AM #4
I guess my goals would depend on the timeframe. 3 months, or how long? But 100 OHP single would be cool. 200 squat single, fk yeah. I'd have to think about realistic goals before committing to them.
There are various "strength scores" we could use. Symmetricstrength.com has various measurements. Strength score, symmetry, percentages, etc.Once upon a time (maxes 2020) ...
Squat 185, Bench 137, DL 205, @ bw 88.5 age 43
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03-26-2021, 07:31 AM #5
Hmm, good point. I was thinking through September. I will most likely be moving to another state shortly thereafter and it is conveniently also the last month of summer, for those who would want to change their training goals with the season. Obviously that's just a suggestion, though.
Honestly not familiar with the other strength metrics one could use. Would they essentially vary much from what Wilks evaluates?Bench: 350
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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03-26-2021, 08:03 AM #6
Wilks is only big 3, so any other lifts we add would make Wilks irrelevant. Symmetricstrength is just another objective measurement that includes multiple lifts. Take a look at the site and see what you come up with for scoring. Strength score, symmetry score, and PL total could all be factored in.
End of Sept. is good with me. Long enough for some solid growth.Once upon a time (maxes 2020) ...
Squat 185, Bench 137, DL 205, @ bw 88.5 age 43
Workout Journal: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=175647011&p=1630928323&viewfull=1#post1630928323
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03-26-2021, 08:39 AM #7
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03-26-2021, 10:35 AM #8
That site is great, thanks for the reference. Comprehensive strength assessment, and the info is clean with multi-faceted presentation (never seen anything have a color-coded muscle chart as well as comparative graphs). I am curious how they derive some of those numbers, however. Robert Wilks of course devised a formula to which the score only functions as a coefficient. For reference, I had been using this site (https://strengthlevel.com/), however those data are self-reported.
Despite the excellent presentation (which suits our purposes here well), if those data are also self-reported, it may skew the objectivity of posting results.
EDIT: Found the detailed answer in the "About" section. Looks like it's directly based off of Wilks, and the breakdown is clearly explained. I like it!Last edited by EliKoehn; 03-26-2021 at 10:52 AM.
Bench: 350
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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03-26-2021, 11:21 AM #9
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03-26-2021, 11:31 AM #10
What are the "big 5"?
I'm in, should do better than December relative to weight as I weighed in at 172.6 this morning.
Haven't been training press as much on my cut, so shoulders are probably my weak link right now.2022 -- Just maintaining and doing the van life
April 2021.................16 week cut.................168 lbs
2020......................375 / 285 / 505..............186 lbs
Pre-COVID..............335 / 295 / 499..............185 lbs
July 1, 2019................9 week cut.................164 lbs
Late April 2019.........285 / 275 / 440.............178 lbs
Oct, 2018..............175x6 / 145x6 / 275x5......163 lbs
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03-26-2021, 12:30 PM #11
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03-26-2021, 12:57 PM #12
Nice! Do you have a specific goal?
If my understandings right, they're
- Bench
- Squat
- Deadlift
- Overhead Press
- Bent-Over Row
Unless he's actually just saying he doesn't care about strength, which to me doesn't really seem consistent with being an active member of this part of the forum.Bench: 350
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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03-26-2021, 01:13 PM #13
Based on past debates, think he doesn't care about lifting bbs/gym weights - but rather lifting "real world" objects in "real life" situations. Which is a diff, because overall bodyweight and body height/size become necessary due to the laws of physics and relative strength loses a lot of its value.
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03-26-2021, 01:16 PM #142022 -- Just maintaining and doing the van life
April 2021.................16 week cut.................168 lbs
2020......................375 / 285 / 505..............186 lbs
Pre-COVID..............335 / 295 / 499..............185 lbs
July 1, 2019................9 week cut.................164 lbs
Late April 2019.........285 / 275 / 440.............178 lbs
Oct, 2018..............175x6 / 145x6 / 275x5......163 lbs
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03-26-2021, 03:16 PM #15
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03-26-2021, 03:54 PM #16
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03-26-2021, 04:03 PM #17
No, just don’t give 2 chits about “stength” at evenly loaded barbell lifts, strength being specificand all, having little to no carryover to moving heavy awkward things...
Maybe why I never really found powerlifting or Olympic lifting all that interesting...
Now if you guys start doing yoke walks, flingings kegs overhead or doing car deadlifts, then sign me up!
Right on the money. On spread.
I feel like if I ever stopped doing what I do for a living, I might have to throw in some days of prowler pushing, sled pulls, and may even take Supramax up on his offer to do farmers carries.Last edited by BeginnerGainz; 03-26-2021 at 04:11 PM.
Age: 30
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03-26-2021, 04:47 PM #18
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03-26-2021, 05:19 PM #20
You’re on. Oh btw....
I got a new Wednesday route, lots of bars, including a Mariana/inn that gets 20-40 kegs a day. I’m in heaven. My old route had me working almost 8 hrs with a metric load of cases.
Hasn’t been my experience, having done manual labor my whole adult life.Age: 30
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03-26-2021, 05:34 PM #21
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Must assume you just Havent reached the gym strength levels that surpasses your already accumulated 'work specific' adaptations.
Its exactly how every strongman trains for 80%+ of their training. With the last 20% being event specific.
I rarely do events now, but they all go up like f just training at home with a bar. Yoke, farmers, hussafel stone, loading medleys.. All improve without doing em.
Only thing that doesn't increase is stones cos I can't get my T-Rex arms around em
Again. Gotta do what you enjoy how you enjoy itFMH crew - Couch.
'pick a program from the stickies' = biggest cop out post.
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03-26-2021, 05:55 PM #22
Please keep this thread focused on Eli's group competition.
Start other threads to discuss other topics which are of more interest to you.Once upon a time (maxes 2020) ...
Squat 185, Bench 137, DL 205, @ bw 88.5 age 43
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03-26-2021, 06:17 PM #23
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03-26-2021, 07:05 PM #24
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03-26-2021, 10:59 PM #25
Wish I could do this, but don’t think I’d be any good. Night shift after night shift (including overtime) has left me a weak emaciated kitten. I don’t think a 200kg deadlift is going to cut the mustard here.
Really hoping that soon I will be able to get back on track. Waking up at 3:30pm having not eaten anything and having no time to train is about as catabolic as it gets.*Deadlifts pants after taking a chit crew*
*Typos can go fucl themselves crew*
*Nice miscer crew*
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03-27-2021, 06:11 AM #26
I used the term "big 5" loosely. I meant SBD, OHP, and weighted chins. But I'll join a Big 6 that includes row.
Goals, I'll aim high for 6 months of glory before I crash down on my face Sept. 30.
Sq 200
Bp 150
DL 227
OHP 85x3 / 90x1
Row 110x3 / 120x1
WC 135x3 / 145x1
Bodyweight <85
DL is a big reach. Squat and bench are possible, the others might be a stretch but we'll see. Might go for singles or triples on the non-PLs.
Programming is my own based on the Calgary templates I ran last year. Four 4-week blocks of hypertrophy training, rotating lifts until July, then increasing intensity closer to peak the last week of Sept.
Let's f*ckin do it!!!
Once upon a time (maxes 2020) ...
Squat 185, Bench 137, DL 205, @ bw 88.5 age 43
Workout Journal: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=175647011&p=1630928323&viewfull=1#post1630928323
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03-27-2021, 07:03 AM #27
Had some q’s
- Does the bench need to be meet legal (paused)
- Are deadlifts with straps allowed
Just in the 1% chance I do feel up to doing this.*Deadlifts pants after taking a chit crew*
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03-27-2021, 07:27 AM #28
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03-27-2021, 08:08 AM #30
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I'd vote yes for both.
Chin rules concern me most, its really easy to do more weight/reps with horrid shoulder protracted form and I don't know how to rule around this.
conversely good form chins tend to leave the head less over the bar than bad ones, so chin over bar tends to encourage worse than better
I would 100% be behind a keg toss or keg carry for distance lol, but probably very difficult for most of us to train for, do and film5 day full body crew
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