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    Originally Posted by Megalomaniacal View Post
    I cover 4 hospitals and I can say that they heftiest nurses are the L&D departments usually, followed by Oncology floor.
    Its cause the ****ing oncology patients families keep giving us food. I cant stop.

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    Can't say about our PCU floor, always full with food. My Hispanic colleagues always bring tamales, taco, quesadillas, enchiladas, etc. Not that I'm complaining, it's hard on the cut. Takes a big toll on my patience to stop my self from eating. lol
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    Originally Posted by South Side Stev View Post
    There should be little difference in reimbursement between NPs and PAs since they both do almost the same job - PAs do more since they do OR (a NP needs RNFA in addition to do OR and sometimes they still don't have the same scope).



    DNP has nothing to do with independent practice. It's entirely up to the state boards and has nothing to do with degree. The DNP is a non clinical degree that adds nothing to a NP's practice. I've known this for years, and I laugh when the NPs I know getting their DNP tell me how use less the DNP is.




    Again, there shouldn't be much disparity between salaries when comparing similar sub specialties. Typically a PA will out earn a NP in the surgical subspecialties due to OR duties. Our department of surgery collected over $700,000 for my services alone last year. No NP in our system generates even close to that kind of revenue, and I get productivity bonuses.
    1. In my area there is a difference. Our MD group hired them simply because they were cheaper than hiring NNPs. Horses mouth. And Other than the 2 PAs they hired (one moved) I nor any other travel RN I have ever worked with has ever seen one in the NICU. So, in the one instance there was a chance for comparison, it was less. I know on average they make a bit more, but I'm sure there are other variables to that answer than simply because its PA vs NP.

    2. A DNP absolutely is a clinical degree. Otherwise how is it different than a PhD? The whole point was that its clinical. And obviously it is up to a state if a DNP or any other practitioner can operate independently.

    3. Thats a nice n=1.
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    Originally Posted by Megalomaniacal View Post
    I cover 4 hospitals and I can say that they heftiest nurses are the L&D departments usually, followed by Oncology floor.

    the best shape department is Nutrition, Pharmacy, then Tele-Neuro.
    Originally Posted by DatMurse View Post
    Its cause the ****ing oncology patients families keep giving us food. I cant stop.

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    Originally Posted by zagaboi View Post
    Can't say about our PCU floor, always full with food. My Hispanic colleagues always bring tamales, taco, quesadillas, enchiladas, etc. Not that I'm complaining, it's hard on the cut. Takes a big toll on my patience to stop my self from eating. lol



    I can not be more thankful that our breakroom is really far (relatively) from our unit for this exact reason! Families, coworkers, etc bringing in **** all the time...


    I also notice that CA doesnt have the same number of obese nurses as the units i worked on in the south.

    Also, more likely on night shift. Those ****ed up hunger cues with sleep deprivation.....
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    Originally Posted by J_dazzle23 View Post
    On the topic of emotional nurses-

    I'm 10 weeks into my nursing program. Knock on wood I'm not jinxing myself, but outside of learning pharmacology (which I'm not good at memorizing, I conceptualize) it's really not that hard. Sure, it's no breeze, and they give us a sh*t ton of busy work, but I had to work a lot harder for A's in patho and my phys.

    What I HAVE noticed, is that a lot of the students (women,oops) hehe...and to some degree the instructors make it seem WAY harder so they feel they are accomplished even more than they are.

    Hopefully that comes across right. But left and right of me people are talking nonstop about how they are studying 8 hours a day on top of classes and it's killing them and blah blah blah and it comes across as an ego boost/sympathy beg.

    I hope the profession is better than the schooling, guis. :/
    lol, no brag but i don't think i've studied more than 1.5 hours for each test I've taken. I always just listen closely in class and study off powerpoints, no textbooks. some people do struggle though.

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    Originally Posted by DatMurse View Post
    Its cause the ****ing oncology patients families keep giving us food. I cant stop.

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    Originally Posted by fbreaker View Post
    lol, no brag but i don't think i've studied more than 1.5 hours for each test I've taken. I always just listen closely in class and study off powerpoints, no textbooks. some people do struggle though.

    have you started clinicals?
    That's kinda where I'm at. Outside of pharm, I feel like those struggling were the ones that pumped and dumped all the info in phys and other prerequisites and didn't bother to actually lean it.

    But again....10 weeks in. Knock on wood.

    Started clinicals right off the bat at a VA care center as my program is only 1.5 years. Start this week clinicals at the regional hospital in my area, as well as working as a patient care tech. Throw me in the briar patch. Scared sh*tless but it should be awesome I have a fair amount of biology knowledge but absolutely zero patient care experience.
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    Originally Posted by spicyprice View Post

    2. A DNP absolutely is a clinical degree. Otherwise how is it different than a PhD? The whole point was that its clinical. And obviously it is up to a state if a DNP or any other practitioner can operate independently.
    There is nothing clinical about a DNP. It's bull**** biostats courses, feel free to look it up. It adds nothing to a NP's clinical practice.

    And you missed the entire point. In dependent practice has NOTHING to do with DNP vs Masters prepared NP. They are treated the exact same as far as scope of practice and oversight, since the DNP again adds nothing clinically.
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    Originally Posted by South Side Stev View Post
    There is nothing clinical about a DNP. It's bull**** biostats courses, feel free to look it up. It adds nothing to a NP's clinical practice.

    And you missed the entire point. In dependent practice has NOTHING to do with DNP vs Masters prepared NP. They are treated the exact same as far as scope of practice and oversight, since the DNP again adds nothing clinically.
    It doesn't add anything clinically, true. Here what it does for me:

    1)I'll be done with school forever. Might as well get it over with while I'm young

    2)When I'm done with clinical or even have a few years I can go into teaching with little difficulty. It'll be harder when everyone has it, but for now it's an easy way in.
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    Originally Posted by fbreaker View Post
    lol, no brag but i don't think i've studied more than 1.5 hours for each test I've taken. I always just listen closely in class and study off powerpoints, no textbooks. some people do struggle though.

    have you started clinicals?
    I definitely studied more than that, but we would be a week away form a test and people would be huddled around with books out, etc in thwe lounge. Would always panic that we had a test I didnt know about, would ask them and they would say something about a test next week or after. I'd be dumbfounded that they were studying that early. Give me two days before to review my notes and would be gtg.

    I think the other poster made a good point. I think some didnt learn the A&P so they cant really make sense of the disease/management and rationale for things.

    Originally Posted by Rabbitw00t View Post
    It doesn't add anything clinically, true. Here what it does for me:

    1)I'll be done with school forever. Might as well get it over with while I'm young

    2)When I'm done with clinical or even have a few years I can go into teaching with little difficulty. It'll be harder when everyone has it, but for now it's an easy way in.
    It may not add anything clinically, but it is a clinical degree.

    God bless you for wanting to go into teaching. We need good teachers so bad, but I cant imagine wanting to do it. Would rather gouge my eyes out.
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitw00t View Post
    When I'm done with clinical or even have a few years I can go into teaching with little difficulty. It'll be harder when everyone has it, but for now it's an easy way in.
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitw00t View Post
    2)When I'm done with clinical or even have a few years I can go into teaching with little difficulty. It'll be harder when everyone has it, but for now it's an easy way in.
    If I was a teacher, they would hate me.

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    She currently works at a nursing home part time and taking online classes to finish her BSN (around 1-1.5 years left).

    The job offer is to work part time in a doctors office at ColumbiaDoctors (part of the reputable New York Presbyterian system).

    The ONLY reasons of even thinking about that job is because she can network with the people there and get great potential references.

    Her ultimate goal is work in a hospital, and so far she has around 2-3 months home care and 7 months nursing home experience.

    What do?

    I'm thinking nursing home experience is more relevant for hospitals, but she asked a recruiter and one said that they don't really acknowledge nursing home experience anyways.
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    YO RN brahs. My gf is deciding between staying at her current job and accepting a new job offer she recieved.

    She currently works at a nursing home part time and taking online classes to finish her BSN (around 1-1.5 years left).

    The job offer is to work part time in a doctors office at ColumbiaDoctors (part of the reputable New York Presbyterian system).

    The ONLY reasons of even thinking about that job is because she can network with the people there and get great potential references.

    Her ultimate goal is work in a hospital, and so far she has around 2-3 months home care and 7 months nursing home experience.

    What do?

    I'm thinking nursing home experience is more relevant for hospitals, but she asked a recruiter and one said that they don't really acknowledge nursing home experience anyways.
    Imo, if she really wants to pursue working in a hospital, have her apply in a hosp to get experience as much as possible. She is right, some hospitals won't acknowledge NH experience and will treat you as a new grad. I know the pay is better, work is less hassle, but if her end goal is to work in a hospital, she should start working there already. I do not have anything wrong with NH's and office work, I've been through that, and I wished I applied in a hosp immediately. That is just my opinion though. Good luck to the both of you.
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    Imo, if she really wants to pursue working in a hospital, have her apply in a hosp to get experience as much as possible. She is right, some hospitals won't acknowledge NH experience and will treat you as a new grad. I know the pay is better, work is less hassle, but if her end goal is to work in a hospital, she should start working there already. I do not have anything wrong with NH's and office work, I've been through that, and I wished I applied in a hosp immediately. That is just my opinion though. Good luck to the both of you.
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    Just the aid job (with a list of responsibilities), no irrelevant stuff.
    Thanks. How about including any clinical rotations? I'm honestly thinking just highlighting the aide job, student activities and my grades. Short and simple, straight to the point. Sound good? I see students with all their random jobs listed, and a box with relevant skills (seems redundant), then all of their clinical rotations. Surely that is too much. I appreciate the help by the way.
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    Thanks. How about including any clinical rotations? I'm honestly thinking just highlighting the aide job, student activities and my grades. Short and simple, straight to the point. Sound good? I see students with all their random jobs listed, and a box with relevant skills (seems redundant), then all of their clinical rotations. Surely that is too much. I appreciate the help by the way.
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    Originally Posted by IRockNikes View Post
    Thanks. How about including any clinical rotations? I'm honestly thinking just highlighting the aide job, student activities and my grades. Short and simple, straight to the point. Sound good? I see students with all their random jobs listed, and a box with relevant skills (seems redundant), then all of their clinical rotations. Surely that is too much. I appreciate the help by the way.
    Ya, list clinical rotations and your aid job. Good luck!
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    I'm going to disagree. Listing other jobs shows that you havent just sat on your ass through highschool and nursing school, it shows that you have a strong work ethic and that you have a lot of experience being an employee in general. Take a job like waiting tables, it shows you have experience with multitasking and (hopefully) providing good customer service which is important in our job. For example, I worked for the Ritz Carlton which has a great customer service training program. Even to this day I list it as part of my non-clinical experience because I think it shows training in customer service that is above what any hospital training will provide.

    Doesnt your nursing school have a professional development class that goes over resume writing, etc?

    Those other jobs for someone new to the profession are FAR from irrelevant.
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    I'm going to disagree. Listing other jobs shows that you havent just sat on your ass through highschool and nursing school, it shows that you have a strong work ethic and that you have a lot of experience being an employee in general. Take a job like waiting tables, it shows you have experience with multitasking and (hopefully) providing good customer service which is important in our job. For example, I worked for the Ritz Carlton which has a great customer service training program. Even to this day I list it as part of my non-clinical experience because I think it shows training in customer service that is above what any hospital training will provide.

    Doesnt your nursing school have a professional development class that goes over resume writing, etc?

    Those other jobs for someone new to the profession are FAR from irrelevant.
    There may be exceptions and ways you can tweak non-clinical jobs to make them look relevant, but (IMHO) for the most part it looks silly. Who are you going to list for references, your clinical instructor, your professor, or the GM at the deli counter were you worked when you were 17? For a new nurse, your performance in clinical is the best predictor of how you will actually be as an RN - if you have good grades and your preceptors like you, there's no need to have your employer reading about your paper route when you were 12.

    Just my $0.02. Even now, while I list where I worked as an ICU RN, employers don't really care, they just want to talk to my boss at the last place I gave anesthesia.
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    Originally Posted by StickLegs78 View Post
    There may be exceptions and ways you can tweak non-clinical jobs to make them look relevant, but (IMHO) for the most part it looks silly. Who are you going to list for references, your clinical instructor, your professor, or the GM at the deli counter were you worked when you were 17? For a new nurse, your performance in clinical is the best predictor of how you will actually be as an RN - if you have good grades and your preceptors like you, there's no need to have your employer reading about your paper route when you were 12.

    Just my $0.02. Even now, while I list where I worked as an ICU RN, employers don't really care, they just want to talk to my boss at the last place I gave anesthesia.
    But we're talking about someone who has a very limited employment history. You situation is completely different. As an experienced person, you're right, they dgaf.


    His previous jobs are how he proves to them that he is a good employee. He isn't trying to prove he is going to be a good nurse because he has no experience to validate the claim.
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    Originally Posted by StickLegs78 View Post
    There may be exceptions and ways you can tweak non-clinical jobs to make them look relevant, but (IMHO) for the most part it looks silly. Who are you going to list for references, your clinical instructor, your professor, or the GM at the deli counter were you worked when you were 17? For a new nurse, your performance in clinical is the best predictor of how you will actually be as an RN - if you have good grades and your preceptors like you, there's no need to have your employer reading about your paper route when you were 12.

    Just my $0.02. Even now, while I list where I worked as an ICU RN, employers don't really care, they just want to talk to my boss at the last place I gave anesthesia.
    I can see both ways. I think jobs listing would vary.

    I think grocery store would be irrelevant on there.

    I would think hospitality working in a high end customer service job would be beneficial. They want high patient satisfaction rates.

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    Originally Posted by spicyprice View Post
    But we're talking about someone who has a very limited employment history. You situation is completely different. As an experienced person, you're right, they dgaf.


    His previous jobs are how he proves to them that he is a good employee. He isn't trying to prove he is going to be a good nurse because he has no experience to validate the claim.
    Again, I would list the aid job and clinical experience. His other job is at a grocery store, it really doesn't matter to anyone. But, whatever, probably won't make a huge difference either way.
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