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03-16-2015, 01:53 PM #5191
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03-16-2015, 03:04 PM #5192
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03-16-2015, 06:50 PM #5193
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1. In my area there is a difference. Our MD group hired them simply because they were cheaper than hiring NNPs. Horses mouth. And Other than the 2 PAs they hired (one moved) I nor any other travel RN I have ever worked with has ever seen one in the NICU. So, in the one instance there was a chance for comparison, it was less. I know on average they make a bit more, but I'm sure there are other variables to that answer than simply because its PA vs NP.
2. A DNP absolutely is a clinical degree. Otherwise how is it different than a PhD? The whole point was that its clinical. And obviously it is up to a state if a DNP or any other practitioner can operate independently.
3. Thats a nice n=1.What's Spicy Training For?? LIFE MOTHER F-ER!
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03-16-2015, 06:52 PM #5194
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I can not be more thankful that our breakroom is really far (relatively) from our unit for this exact reason! Families, coworkers, etc bringing in **** all the time...
I also notice that CA doesnt have the same number of obese nurses as the units i worked on in the south.
Also, more likely on night shift. Those ****ed up hunger cues with sleep deprivation.....What's Spicy Training For?? LIFE MOTHER F-ER!
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03-16-2015, 07:44 PM #5195
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03-16-2015, 08:05 PM #5196
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03-16-2015, 08:29 PM #5197
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03-16-2015, 09:01 PM #5198
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03-16-2015, 10:20 PM #5199
That's kinda where I'm at. Outside of pharm, I feel like those struggling were the ones that pumped and dumped all the info in phys and other prerequisites and didn't bother to actually lean it.
But again....10 weeks in. Knock on wood.
Started clinicals right off the bat at a VA care center as my program is only 1.5 years. Start this week clinicals at the regional hospital in my area, as well as working as a patient care tech. Throw me in the briar patch. Scared sh*tless but it should be awesome I have a fair amount of biology knowledge but absolutely zero patient care experience.NASM CPT
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03-17-2015, 02:47 AM #5200
There is nothing clinical about a DNP. It's bull**** biostats courses, feel free to look it up. It adds nothing to a NP's clinical practice.
And you missed the entire point. In dependent practice has NOTHING to do with DNP vs Masters prepared NP. They are treated the exact same as far as scope of practice and oversight, since the DNP again adds nothing clinically.I don't gang bang, ho, I just gang bang these hoes.
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03-17-2015, 06:16 AM #5201
It doesn't add anything clinically, true. Here what it does for me:
1)I'll be done with school forever. Might as well get it over with while I'm young
2)When I'm done with clinical or even have a few years I can go into teaching with little difficulty. It'll be harder when everyone has it, but for now it's an easy way in.
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03-17-2015, 01:30 PM #5202
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I definitely studied more than that, but we would be a week away form a test and people would be huddled around with books out, etc in thwe lounge. Would always panic that we had a test I didnt know about, would ask them and they would say something about a test next week or after. I'd be dumbfounded that they were studying that early. Give me two days before to review my notes and would be gtg.
I think the other poster made a good point. I think some didnt learn the A&P so they cant really make sense of the disease/management and rationale for things.
It may not add anything clinically, but it is a clinical degree.
God bless you for wanting to go into teaching. We need good teachers so bad, but I cant imagine wanting to do it. Would rather gouge my eyes out.What's Spicy Training For?? LIFE MOTHER F-ER!
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03-17-2015, 02:59 PM #5203
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03-17-2015, 03:35 PM #5204
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03-17-2015, 04:03 PM #5205
YO RN brahs. My gf is deciding between staying at her current job and accepting a new job offer she recieved.
She currently works at a nursing home part time and taking online classes to finish her BSN (around 1-1.5 years left).
The job offer is to work part time in a doctors office at ColumbiaDoctors (part of the reputable New York Presbyterian system).
The ONLY reasons of even thinking about that job is because she can network with the people there and get great potential references.
Her ultimate goal is work in a hospital, and so far she has around 2-3 months home care and 7 months nursing home experience.
What do?
I'm thinking nursing home experience is more relevant for hospitals, but she asked a recruiter and one said that they don't really acknowledge nursing home experience anyways.
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03-17-2015, 05:04 PM #5206
Imo, if she really wants to pursue working in a hospital, have her apply in a hosp to get experience as much as possible. She is right, some hospitals won't acknowledge NH experience and will treat you as a new grad. I know the pay is better, work is less hassle, but if her end goal is to work in a hospital, she should start working there already. I do not have anything wrong with NH's and office work, I've been through that, and I wished I applied in a hosp immediately. That is just my opinion though. Good luck to the both of you.
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03-17-2015, 09:46 PM #5207
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03-18-2015, 11:15 AM #5208
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03-18-2015, 06:07 PM #5209
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03-18-2015, 06:39 PM #5210
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03-18-2015, 09:55 PM #5211
Thanks. How about including any clinical rotations? I'm honestly thinking just highlighting the aide job, student activities and my grades. Short and simple, straight to the point. Sound good? I see students with all their random jobs listed, and a box with relevant skills (seems redundant), then all of their clinical rotations. Surely that is too much. I appreciate the help by the way.
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03-19-2015, 04:38 AM #5212
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03-19-2015, 04:48 AM #5213
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03-19-2015, 10:35 AM #5214
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I'm going to disagree. Listing other jobs shows that you havent just sat on your ass through highschool and nursing school, it shows that you have a strong work ethic and that you have a lot of experience being an employee in general. Take a job like waiting tables, it shows you have experience with multitasking and (hopefully) providing good customer service which is important in our job. For example, I worked for the Ritz Carlton which has a great customer service training program. Even to this day I list it as part of my non-clinical experience because I think it shows training in customer service that is above what any hospital training will provide.
Doesnt your nursing school have a professional development class that goes over resume writing, etc?
Those other jobs for someone new to the profession are FAR from irrelevant.What's Spicy Training For?? LIFE MOTHER F-ER!
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03-19-2015, 11:32 AM #5215
There may be exceptions and ways you can tweak non-clinical jobs to make them look relevant, but (IMHO) for the most part it looks silly. Who are you going to list for references, your clinical instructor, your professor, or the GM at the deli counter were you worked when you were 17? For a new nurse, your performance in clinical is the best predictor of how you will actually be as an RN - if you have good grades and your preceptors like you, there's no need to have your employer reading about your paper route when you were 12.
Just my $0.02. Even now, while I list where I worked as an ICU RN, employers don't really care, they just want to talk to my boss at the last place I gave anesthesia.CRNA Crew
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03-20-2015, 10:22 PM #5216
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03-20-2015, 11:11 PM #5217
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But we're talking about someone who has a very limited employment history. You situation is completely different. As an experienced person, you're right, they dgaf.
His previous jobs are how he proves to them that he is a good employee. He isn't trying to prove he is going to be a good nurse because he has no experience to validate the claim.What's Spicy Training For?? LIFE MOTHER F-ER!
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03-21-2015, 11:57 AM #5218
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