There just iant enough coverage. I go weeks without hearing anything about any competitor I'm interested in and when I do get an update its Jay Cutler taking a fan photo at a gym somewhere in the world. What happened to training vids? BFTO? This sucks.
We need to go to a straight points system and only the top 10 get into the O. No more auto qualify except for maybe prior O winners. Willingness to compete and consistency should matter more. Reward guys who put in the effort to show up and compete. If Jimmie Johnson or Rory McElroy could show up and win once and get into the championship it would obviously be bad for their respective sports. Especialy when those sports have dozens of events each year. Also, the IFBB needs to get its head out of its ass and acknowledge the need for coverage. The NFL and NBA don't rely soley on ESPN to cover the sport. They have many millions of dollars invested in PR that brings the sport to the fan. Srsly ppl.
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02-10-2015, 08:52 AM #1
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Losing interest in bodybuiilding.
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02-10-2015, 09:55 AM #2
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02-10-2015, 02:23 PM #3
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02-10-2015, 02:43 PM #4
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02-10-2015, 03:11 PM #5
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02-10-2015, 03:20 PM #6
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02-10-2015, 04:18 PM #7
I'll always be a fan... BUT I could see where you're coming from. As much as I loved the sport and all, just some things killed my interest, such as..
Every year whoever wins the NPC Nationals/USAs gets signed to MD, then are dropped after one bad showing.
Coverage has been rather meh lately as well... not too many new videos. Doesn't help 85% of posts on MD are all throwback videos.
It's like "WOW! Cutler is huge again! Is he hinting at a comeback?" "The video is from 2010 bro"
Then you got guys like Big Sean Allen and Jeff Long on Instagram marketing themselves out like they're 20x Mr. Olympias, then verbally attacking, blocking fans and/or commenting on their pics saying they look like sh*t. I seen once where somebody asked BSA if he could beat Ramy, and he responded something like "Who could YOU beat skinny boy? Get Ramy's nuts out your mouth and go train"
Then... I've also seen guys on social media who show up looking 3-4 weeks out going as far as saying "Nobody trained or dieted harder than me"
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02-10-2015, 05:14 PM #8
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02-10-2015, 05:19 PM #9
Pretty much this. Bodybuilding as a sport will never take off because the public knows that these guys are walking human laboratories.
The coverage is ridiculous and makes it certain that even the potential that IS there is not fulfilled.
Personally, I think I am getting more and more into physique and WBFF.
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02-10-2015, 05:28 PM #10
I feel you.
It's like...what's there to talk about, exactly? A bunch of pros get shredded for a few weeks and pose on stage, receive placings we can basically predict in advance, and then for the rest of the year they might as well be dead or in a coma or on the moon. Jason Genova and Bostin Loyd are way more interesting than any serious competitive bodybuilder out there at the moment.We're dodging more ninjitsu attacks than Flex Wheeler. We're ducking more bullets than George Farah. We're facing more death than a kid leg pressing at Branch Warren's gym.
You can't stop us. You can't hold us back.
IFBB brahs über alles.
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02-10-2015, 05:56 PM #11
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02-10-2015, 10:42 PM #12
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02-11-2015, 02:46 AM #13
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02-11-2015, 05:28 AM #15
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02-11-2015, 06:26 AM #16
For me it's the overall condition of the bodybuilders today and the distended stomachs with herniated belly buttons from GH and Slin abuse.
I really wish that things would get back to the "golden era", 70's, 80's, 90's...when small, tight waists and symmetry, aesthetics were emphasized. I think bodybuilding would have a lot more traction if this happened as it was covered by ESPN back then and had a lot more "buzz" in general but it all starts with the judges and what type of physique they award.
Not trying to hate on Phil because to be honest, no one looked overly conditioned or great at the 2014 O, but for a guy with a distended gut like he had to be Mr. O...it just kind of illustrated as to where this sport is headed and how tight waists are not much of the criteria anymore. The problem is that things will not change unless the judges start awarding more physiques that resemble the 70's, 80's and 90's but they won't because they think everyone wants the freaks with size and near 300 pounds on stage. =/THE LEVRONE 2016 MR. OLYMPIA COMEBACK
(Official announcement through Special Invite as of 05/07/16)
"Kick ass, stay strong, keep pumping up the volume baby...Maryland Muscle Machine in the house and we are SHABAMMM!!! outta' here!"
- Kevin Levrone
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02-11-2015, 08:41 AM #17
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02-11-2015, 12:51 PM #18
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02-11-2015, 01:05 PM #19
The Mr. O and the Arnold are live streamed by bb.com.
This was NEVER done in the past.
but bb.com only hosts/covers those, the rest you get (or used to get as of a few months ago) from MD.
Vids are old news thanks to piracy and youtube.
If you want to follow a particular bb'er go to ******** or instagram, its how things are done nowadays.
Once upon a time we had TV coverage, then Arnold won when he shouldn't have and coverage was dropped by the major networks.
Not many in this world want to see this on TV anyways and I'm fine with that.
Its bad enough we have bikini, mens physique, and distended unaesthetic oil bags in bb'ing...no need to advertise the worst, and there is at least one at every show.
You need to remember this is not technically a "sport" in the eyes of the public, heck I compete and it is nothing more than a glorified beauty pageant/freak show.
Do you really need PR for every beauty pageant the IFBB puts on?
Bodybuilding will never be mainstream, and a true bodybuilding fan would never want it to go mainstream as that's what makes us tick (bodybuilders). The subculture of bodybuilding is what makes bodybuilding unique and I'm good with it there.
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02-11-2015, 01:37 PM #20
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02-11-2015, 10:52 PM #21
I agree with most of the comments about how the sport might improve, but to turn the tables a bit I think people need to ask themselves: what are YOU doing to improve the sport? Everybody seems to want free videos and pictures sent to them online, which is fine, but I think it's important to support bodybuilding directly.
How many "fans" have never actually been to a live contest? Even at the local level. Supporting shows helps the sport as a whole. Go to the fitness expos. Get off the couch and actually attend an event. The sport becomes more interesting when you get involved with it even as a spectator.
Don't pirate bodybuilding DVDs, spend a few bucks and rent Generation Iron or buy a copy.
And it's not like the IFBB hasn't thought of the idea of TV coverage. Last year's Olympia was cancelled from NBC Sports at the last moment.
As others keep reminding us, bodybuilding is a niche sport and so we might have to work a little bit harder to stay interested in it. But we're not helping if we just expect everything to be spoon-fed to us.
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02-12-2015, 12:09 AM #22
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02-12-2015, 12:40 AM #23
Show me one guy from the 1970s who is more aesthetic, symmetric, proportionate than Shawn Rhoden or Dexter.
The phisiques of that era, for the most part, were not proportionate and balanced .The conditioning wasnt nearly as good as now.
Back then the emphasis was on size too.The arnolds, the Sergio's, the Haney's(guys dominating that era) were the Cutlers, Colemans, Heaths of their day.Being 240-50 lb lean in the 70s was like being 300 lb now.They were absolute freaks.
Btw , the phisiques of the 1990s were similar to the ones now not the 60s thu 80s ones.
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02-12-2015, 03:38 AM #24
When I first started lifting, about 10 years ago, I was in high school.
It was really a magical time of "Dude I got this new Muscle Tech NNANO VAPOR" or "Cell tech is unbelievable, I'm getting so strong". We were admiring Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman like gods.
We were all so naïve and everything was awesome.
I guess since then I've been just curious enough to see what happens at the Olympia and Arnold.
Aside from that, I think it's quite a weird thing to be VERY into as a grown man. I see posters on here like "omg look at his glutes" and I just shake my head.
I love bodybuilding for myself, my own body, but the magic of high school naivety surrounding pro BBing has worn off.I
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02-12-2015, 06:04 AM #25
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02-13-2015, 03:00 PM #27
I hate to say it but I miss those days... being at Wal-Mart/Barnes and Noble the day a new MD Mag came out, going to GNC/The Vitamin Shoppe and being like a kid in the toy store.
"Aw man I can't imagine training without Nano Vapor"
I still watch The Olympia, Arnold, and catch coverage for other shows when I can. I'll always be a fan of the sport, will always love bodybuilding..
As for the glutes you mentioned- yeah man, lol. When I see a guy like a Ronnie Coleman or so, I'm thinking "Damn that back!" or "Holy **** his quads are huge" shoot me the day I say "Awww man I want glutes like his"
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02-13-2015, 03:50 PM #28
Went to my first show a few months ago, most of the big names were there.
It killed it for me, i just kinda thought it wasn't really 'real' or something - like there were plenty of lower tiered guys who just looked terrible. I always liked the idea of bodybuilders striving for the perfect body but some of the guys looked really bad. Not sure how to explain it really.Go to buy some food and see someone i know so i leave the shop and go home and be hungry crew
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