I just recently applied to nursing school, I'm going to just go the associates route for now, I have a 4.0 gpa so I should get in. I already have a Bachelors degree in business so do you brahs think I should worry about getting my BSN? I'm just going through a community college route because its much cheaper and closer to where I live. Any advice I would appreciate, thanks!
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04-05-2013, 11:10 AM #1111
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04-05-2013, 11:45 AM #1112
You're way out there in Eastern Washington right? I'm not sure how the work situation is out East; but a lot of hospitals in Western Washington and Oregon have a strong preference for BSN. It's easy enough to bridge from ASN to BSN from what I've heard. I'm sure that one of the WSU's have a very affordable bridge. The problem with it might come in when you graduate from the ASN because although you'll be a registered nurse after passing the NCLEX a lot of employers won't hire because no BSN. So you might have a period of time without work while doing your bridge.
If you already have a degree I would suggest looking into Accelerated BSN programs. Sadly; they are not very affordable, the pace is difficult and they're hard to get into - but the payoff is you can get your bachelors degree in 11 months - 18 months. I finished my last two nursing prerequisites in Seattle and was looking at schools in the area but got accepted at University of Miami's ABSN before I even got started on their applications. For accelerated BSN Programs there is University of Washington; Oregon Health and Science University; Linfield college of Nursing; and Idaho State University.
You could also go the Traditional route and apply to a University; and because you already have Bachelor's degree you would enter in the upper division and only take the nursing courses. It would probably be more cost effective than the accelerated programs and would take about the same amount of time as the associates degree. Plus more schools in Washington offer traditional BSN - WSU Tri-Cities and Spokane; I believe were the most affordable.
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04-05-2013, 12:57 PM #1113
Thanks for the info! I'm from western Wa. but I like the east side so much better.. Are you off to Florida then? I would love to do the accelerated program but from a cost standpoint I'm trying to maximize my investment lol. I may just do an rn to BSN program once I finish or I may go on to get a masters in healthcare administration, I really want to work on the insurance side of things and I feel getting some hands on experience as an RN will be a good start.
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04-05-2013, 01:27 PM #1114
Ha ha, actually just graduated from University of Miami's ABSN. Drove to Oregon from Miami in December and wrote the NCLEX in March. The license was finally posted today. Yay!! Now to find work.
Yeah, the costs for many of the ABSN's are hard to choke down. University of Miami as a Private school actually cost less than OHSU as a public one.
I would definitely recommend doing an RN-BSN program bridge. One of my professors at the University of Miami did a dual MSN-MBA and the money/opportunity in that area is very good. Here's an example of such a program: http://www.nursing.virginia.edu/programs/msnmba/
I hope you get your acceptance letter soon and wish you luck in your program!
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04-05-2013, 07:00 PM #1115
Don't get caught up in the BSN hype. If you have a bachelors of Science you will be ok as far as finding work/ moving up.
Myself. Bachelor of Science in Applied Physiology and Kinesiology, did my RN licence the fastest route possible (<2 years ) since they took all of my credits. Went straight to nursing classes.
Get it done, you will find work. Focus on NCLEX and learning all you can in Clinicals.
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04-05-2013, 07:50 PM #1119
I did my degree at University of Miami. The employment situation actually is a lot better out there than it is out here on the west coast. Most of my friends got positions at Jackson and UMH shortly after graduation and I know a lot of the nurses I worked with during my clinical rotations had ADN from Miami Dade. Sadly, the west coast isn't that golden for work right now. Oregon, Washington and Cali... Most of my friends that moved back here after graduation are still looking for work with BSN. The new grad programs/residencies out here are only looking at BSN, heck even long term care specifies BSN with 2+ years experience.
I kick myself sometimes for not staying out there.
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No problem, I don't mind at all.
I have an ****** 10mg prescription to help me sleep and all of the symptoms are gone. The tests were inconclusive since nothing showed up and my neurologist said it may be sleep related though not all the symptoms fit. I'm assuming this means it was sleep related since I feel fine now but she did mention she's never seen anything like this before.
Edm's last PM was "I think you may have something very serious, I'm mailing a surgeon I know about your case" or something like that so I'm curious lol.
Either way I feel great now but I'm not sure what'll happen if I run out of ****** since I doubt I'll get another prescription anytime soon at my age.
I have a few hundred Melatonin 3mg pills but they only really have an effect at 9mg and even then it barely helps. They help enough to the point where I don't feel like a zombie and I won't be riding my bicycle off the road all the time but still it's not exactly a great state of mind.
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Ahh interesting. How do you feel with melatonin, does it make you drowsy at night? And how is the quality of your sleep with melatonin? Nursing program definitely hits hard with my sleep schedule...7am clinical and my lectures are later in the day on different days starting at 4pm-9pm. My clinical sites are far too so I have to leave like an hour early.
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Lol'd I know those feels. For some reason I get ADHD like symptoms on test days and need to take my ahem meds..and clinicals..my GI seems to be hyperactive..only around my clinical instructor and pre/post conference. Fuuuu
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04-06-2013, 08:12 AM #1131
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Melatonin should be very helpful for you. Basically it just makes you feel a bit sleepy.
Drowsiness seems to be a common side effect but I've yet to experience any side effects from it besides my throat being a bit dry in the morning.
Basically you start feeling a bit sleepy, for me this only occurs at a dose of 9mg but 3mg should be enough for the average person to feel pretty sleepy.
It's very harmless so I'd definitely recommend it in order to keep your sleep schedule in check.
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04-06-2013, 09:43 AM #1135
I've never actually heard of either being considered a 'mental disorder'. All I've really learned is that there can be am emotional component- which if recognized early enough - can help with prevention, but that is about it. The correlations are so multi-factorial. Seriously, ever discipline has a different idea about causation. When you look at the epidemiology (not my favorite class ever lol) all one can really draw is correlations.
I did a behavioral health class during my first degree and from what I remember the psychology perspective of heart disease had to do with emotions and the effect they played on the sympathetic nervous system. There is a correlation between individuals that have stress & anger problems and heart disease. Basically it's like anger affects the sympathetic nervous system; which causes activation of alpha and beta receptors in the blood vessels which then leads to quick vasoconstriction and then once the anger is over quick vasodilation. The theory is that over time the numerous episodes of the vasoconstriction and vasodialation cause micro tears in the vessels. Cholesterol and other fats get into these microtears and eventually the buildup causes the arteries to narrow leading to atherosclerosis and heart disease.
I took the class 2 years ago so I apologize if my explanation is vague; I don't really remember it extremely well.
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04-06-2013, 11:06 AM #1139
Maybe the older people. The stuff we learn is pretty up to date. Worst thing I heard was weight lifting doesnt help cardiovascular health.
Recently they found that it raises hdl levels which overall helps your heart.
The other intervention for heart disease starts with exercise and increasing monounsat fats.
Which was abig suprise they said that. They also said dietary cholesterol doesnt affect your levels due to autoregulation from your liver....
Medical on the other hand...d
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