What are the advantages of using a M1-T stack versus doing just M1-T??
I'm not talking about post cycle or anything, I am talking about the people who stack it with ADs.
The reason I am asking is that, upon my research, it seems that 1AD for example has more sides such as hair loss versus M1-T which that does not seem to be the case.
I am still trying to learn about all of these PHs and I am getting the hang of it but would like to know all ins and outs before even considering starting.
I may buy the M1-T soon as it may not be legal for long, lol.
Lemme know, and I will probably have related questions to your answers.
Thanks!
Nick
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12-02-2003, 01:39 PM #1Registered User
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M1-T...To stack, or not to stack...
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12-02-2003, 02:22 PM #2Registered User
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Re: M1-T...To stack, or not to stack...
Nick, keep in mind that m1t does have potential to cause hairloss. M1T is very powerful and does not need to be stacked. However, I recommend adding some 4AD in there if you are bulking. The 4AD will also help with the lethargy. I also think adding in 1,4 andro may be a good choice. This compound will help with lean gains and also stimulate appetite. Hope this helps some.Originally posted by INSSANE
What are the advantages of using a M1-T stack versus doing just M1-T??
I'm not talking about post cycle or anything, I am talking about the people who stack it with ADs.
The reason I am asking is that, upon my research, it seems that 1AD for example has more sides such as hair loss versus M1-T which that does not seem to be the case.
I am still trying to learn about all of these PHs and I am getting the hang of it but would like to know all ins and outs before even considering starting.
I may buy the M1-T soon as it may not be legal for long, lol.
Lemme know, and I will probably have related questions to your answers.
Thanks!
Nick
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12-02-2003, 02:25 PM #3Registered User
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mi11enium fitness(DOT)com price of Legal Gear M1T is $49
Look how tough you look mean-muggin a computer screen.
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12-02-2003, 04:38 PM #4Registered User
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Why do you keep posting this?Originally posted by b1gb0t0
***************(DOT)com price of Legal Gear M1T is $49
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I would only be taking 10mg, maybe split 5 and 5.
Are you saying take 4AD AND 1,4 andro?
That may be a bit much right?
Lethargy, severe acne, and libido loss are my MAIN concerns.
I would notice anything significant and adjust properly.
How much 4AD and when does one start stacking, right away?
Nick"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." - Kay, M.I.B.
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12-02-2003, 05:18 PM #6Sleepy moderator
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you may want to look here... but one thing i was advised not to split the 10mg dose...Originally posted by INSSANE
I would only be taking 10mg, maybe split 5 and 5.
Are you saying take 4AD AND 1,4 andro?
That may be a bit much right?
Lethargy, severe acne, and libido loss are my MAIN concerns.
I would notice anything significant and adjust properly.
How much 4AD and when does one start stacking, right away?
Nick
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=192845
ye i would choose one of the two...
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12-02-2003, 07:01 PM #7Registered User
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I will also be splitting the tab taking 5 in the am and 5 in the pmOriginally posted by INSSANE
I would only be taking 10mg, maybe split 5 and 5.
Are you saying take 4AD AND 1,4 andro?
That may be a bit much right?
Lethargy, severe acne, and libido loss are my MAIN concerns.
I would notice anything significant and adjust properly.
How much 4AD and when does one start stacking, right away?
Nick
I think you can use all three but I personally would use the m1t and 4ad if bulking and m1t and 1,4 andro if cutting.
I would run about 400mgs of 4ad transdermal or 900mgs of 4ad orally to start
You can start the 4ad and the m1t at the same time if you are going 4 weeks
If you plan on running the m1t 2 weeks you may want to do this...
week 1 4ad
week 2 and 3 4ad and m1t
this was recommended by Chemo a very very knowledgable guy
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12-02-2003, 07:08 PM #8Senior Member
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Re: M1-T...To stack, or not to stack...
well if you don't consider high blood pressure and liver toxicity to be sides then I guess M1T may have less, but these are fairly extreme sides that could have serious potential long term health implications, and should not be discounted because they are not visually noticable like hairloss, acne, and libido (if your gettin lucky).Originally posted by INSSANE
The reason I am asking is that, upon my research, it seems that 1AD for example has more sides such as hair loss versus M1-T which that does not seem to be the case.
food for thought
cm5
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12-02-2003, 07:10 PM #9Registered User
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Good deal.
Check out my recent thread...do ya think this is gonna be too strong for person just starting PHs?
I can monitor very well and I'm certainly not stupid with this stuff.
The only other thing that is getting me is cost of course.
I need to refill on whey
I need Glutamine
NAC
Milk Thistle
Hawthorne
M1-T
4AD
6oxo
WOW $$$
Know anywhere that I can get ALL of those one stop?
On a side note, can I do creatine while doing these PHs?
Nick"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." - Kay, M.I.B.
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12-02-2003, 07:14 PM #10Registered User
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You can use creatine with androgensOriginally posted by INSSANE
Good deal.
Check out my recent thread...do ya think this is gonna be too strong for person just starting PHs?
I can monitor very well and I'm certainly not stupid with this stuff.
The only other thing that is getting me is cost of course.
I need to refill on whey
I need Glutamine
NAC
Milk Thistle
Hawthorne
M1-T
4AD
6oxo
WOW $$$
Know anywhere that I can get ALL of those one stop?
On a side note, can I do creatine while doing these PHs?
Nick
M1T can be used for someone's first cycle but I do not recommend it. Its better to take something like 1ad and see how your body responds to androgens.
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12-02-2003, 07:17 PM #11Senior Member
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you may want to look into nolva (Tamoxifen Citrate) instead of 6OXO, it's cheaper and generally prefered.Originally posted by INSSANE
I need to refill on whey
I need Glutamine
NAC
Milk Thistle
Hawthorne
M1-T
4AD
6oxo
WOW $$$
yes
Know anywhere that I can get ALL of those one stop?
yes and no, I have read many reviews and posts that say creatine is actually processed more effectively on gear, however, given the pump effects of M1T I don't know that it would be a good idea. On another note, I was wondering something close to this just today. Pump effect aside, how would the water retention effect of creatine interact with M1T and its tendency to cause cramping? I'm guessing not all that well.
On a side note, can I do creatine while doing these PHs?
Nick
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12-02-2003, 07:17 PM #12Registered User
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Re: Re: M1-T...To stack, or not to stack...
yes good post. We do not want to forget about blood pressure and liver toxicityOriginally posted by cookmic5
well if you don't consider high blood pressure and liver toxicity to be sides then I guess M1T may have less, but these are fairly extreme sides that could have serious potential long term health implications, and should not be discounted because they are not visually noticable like hairloss, acne, and libido (if your gettin lucky).
food for thought
cm5
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12-02-2003, 07:17 PM #13Registered User
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Cool...end of THIS discussion.
Come over to my other thread all! lol
Thanks, Ill have to keep M1T under my hat!
Nick"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." - Kay, M.I.B.
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12-02-2003, 07:18 PM #14Registered User
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I guess I didn't consider those as sides. They were my MAIN concern. LOL
Reading does a body good!"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." - Kay, M.I.B.
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12-02-2003, 07:19 PM #15Senior Member
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NOW you tell him!?!?Originally posted by NO MERCY
M1T can be used for someone's first cycle but I do not recommend it. Its better to take something like 1ad and see how your body responds to androgens.
cm5
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12-02-2003, 07:20 PM #16Registered User
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CM...
Can you email me or PM me the place where I can get ALL those items if needed??
Nick"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." - Kay, M.I.B.
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12-02-2003, 07:20 PM #17Registered User
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Originally posted by cookmic5
NOW you tell him!?!?
cm5
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12-02-2003, 07:26 PM #18Senior Member
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you have a pm, but as you'll see I may have misspoken slightly, it may be a two stop shop.
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12-02-2003, 07:35 PM #19Registered User
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Well, thanks for the PM, but they didn't show up.
Throw some spaces in or email me
INSSANE99SS@aol.com
Thanks bro"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." - Kay, M.I.B.
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12-02-2003, 07:48 PM #20Registered User
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I also sent you a PM INSSANE
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01-01-2004, 07:38 PM #21Banned
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When cutting is it stupid to use 4ad? why is 1,4 andro so much better?
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01-02-2004, 01:22 AM #22Registered User
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When trolling is it stupid not to make your own thread?
That has nothing to do with M1T...make a topic!"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." - Kay, M.I.B.
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