It’s actually amazing how rustled people get about tradies making bank

[TheParish]

I’ve worked both manual labor and white collar jobs. The latter is FAR more exhausting because it causes your test to drop like a rock. If trannys want to transition, they might as well just work in an office semi srs.

All of this. I spent the first 14 years of my career in the "tradie" side of my job. It was great. You're outside, working with men, actually accomplishing something together and going home physically tired and dirty. That's what a job should be.

I got promoted and I'm mostly in a office. I work less hours for more money, but I'm miserable. No purpose, no accomplishment, you're just there. The comparison to a tranny beginning his journey isn't that far fetched lol

[FelixTheCat1919]

$90 an hour is bad money?

Sometimes I wonder what world some of you live in. Our economy is so bad right now we have PhD’s fighting over $20 an hour research jobs….

What PhD's are fighting over $20 research jobs? Even McPoverty's is starting to voluntarily pay $15+ an hours starting these days.

[MeSoHawny]

Wealth is not an achievement. It has nothing to do with how smart you are, how hard you worked, or how good you are as a person.

Just hold down a job for a few weeks before you share you retarded opinion WIncel, FFS

[GhostofCricket]

Just hold down a job for a few weeks before you share you retarded opinion WIncel, FFS

Tucker, please. Stop leeching off my taxes.

[outfoxxed]

Wealth is not an achievement. It has nothing to do with how smart you are, how hard you worked, or how good you are as a person.

“Good person”.

A good person by your communist point of view probably killed 100 million people. Hardly means anything

[Anachron]

I'm just kind of tired of tradies bragging about their incomes and acting obnoxious about it. They need to be reminded of their place.

And you need to be reminded of yours, which is that of a pseudointellectual who is scamming for government bucks to 'go to uni" in his late thirties.

You can start talking when you start actually contributing to society.

Until then you can kindly STFU.

[kcadrenalin]

It's just a sense of moral outrage that we don't feel as if people of low intelligence should be entitled to a remuneration rivalling that of more intelligent and educated professions. Your payment is supposed to reflect both the value to society, the period of education required, and the intelligence that the job demands.

Jesus. I had to read that several times to make sure it wasn't meant as a troll post.

"My 4 year liberal arts degree intitles me to make more money that a skilled tradesman, yet I am having a hard time finding a job that pays more than minimum wage while the tradie is making bank. This is not fair!"

[Madscient1st]

I’ll have my MBA soon but if I had to do it over again I’d go journeyman right out of high school, no doubt. I know a lineman my age that had a house and an $80,000 F350 while I was still in undergrad. He’s killing it.

Lineman crew. It’s stupid money and fun as fuq. Work hard, help deliver a product that is in high demand and get compensated accordingly

[Godfrd824]

Both of those events actually occurred though so how is it not realistic

Remember, everything changed in 2012.

[r32gojirra]

I'll bring facts and figures since OP is all talk.

These incomes are f*cking dogsh*t. Pathetic.

Location: cuckmerica

I got sum bad newz

[r32gojirra]

And you need to be reminded of yours, which is that of a pseudointellectual who is scamming for government bucks to 'go to uni" in his late thirties.

You can start talking when you start actually contributing to society.

Until then you can kindly STFU.

Errybody wanna market economy

But don’t nobody wanna deal with the fact that their chosen “degree” is actually worthless

LIGHT WEIGHT!!!!

[Akd123]

I fell for the officecel chit, did it for 22 years. I quit and started driving a truck dumping fuel 4 days a week and let me tell you. Freedom, mad skrilla, stress free, no dumb mind numbing conference calls and meetings listening to some soft handed limp wristed twink that couldn’t change a flat tire if his life depended on it.

Driving a rig around all day is tough and the money is good but your not a tradie

As for how the misc treats REAL tradies its ridiculous. You think its easy low IQ work and its not. You fuks would be begging to get off the roof in 10 minutes. Ive literally almost thrown smart ass punks off of roofs before. And if being an electrician is so easy why dont you guys do it? Good money and easy. No brainer right? Dumass misc ph@ggots. Truly some of the dumbest fuks on the web.And YOU BODHY are the WORST OF THE WORST!I hope you lose both hands in an accident so you can never type a sentence online again. DED FKN SRS! fuking limpwristed pusst bitches couldnt even swing a harmmer your so low IQ

[buwbs]

Imagine smelling some fat office slam pigs chit at the unisex stall every day

You could be on the open road, wind in the air, wolf whistling barely legal teen girls, drinking monsters, shooting the chit with the gang, swearing, driving to different locations

^ try doing any of that sat at a cubecell

[AlexxVann]

It's just a sense of moral outrage that we don't feel as if people of low intelligence should be entitled to a remuneration rivalling that of more intelligent and educated professions. Your payment is supposed to reflect both the value to society, the period of education required, and the intelligence that the job demands.

You talk about intelligence, or the lack thereof of tradies. But if they've managed to find an income rivalling that of the "more intelligent and educated professions" minus the debt and the office slave culture then realistically who is more intelligent?

There will be bottom of the barrel people who work trades, concrete labourer pushing wheelbarrows for 8 hours a day for $40-$50/hour.

But to throw a wide net over the entire construction industry and labeling them unintelligent or uneducated is laughable.

Pulling north of 150k-200k in a licensed trade in Australia is really not unrealistic in the slightest. In Australia in 2023 the construction industry had a revenue of $497 BILLION.
Imagine the revenue that wasn't book through the books as well. Tradies laughing all the way to the bank.

[MiscMathematician]

$90 an hour is bad money?

Sometimes I wonder what world some of you live in. Our economy is so bad right now we have PhD’s fighting over $20 an hour research jobs….

given that a house in cali is > 10x a normal suburb i understand them

[r32gojirra]

You talk about intelligence, or the lack thereof of tradies. But if they've managed to find an income rivalling that of the "more intelligent and educated professions" minus the debt and the office slave culture then realistically who is more intelligent?

There will be bottom of the barrel people who work trades, concrete labourer pushing wheelbarrows for 8 hours a day for $40-$50/hour.

But to throw a wide net over the entire construction industry and labeling them unintelligent or uneducated is laughable.

Pulling north of 150k-200k in a licensed trade in Australia is really not unrealistic in the slightest. In Australia in 2023 the construction industry had a revenue of $497 BILLION.
Imagine the revenue that wasn't book through the books as well. Tradies laughing all the way to the bank.

Bear in mind that’s the salary you would pull as an EMPLOYEE

If you are operating under your own ABN and doing property developments on the side, you’re deep into 7 figures (although many of the tradies I know hold that accumulated wealth as assets rather than cashing out for various reasons)

[EDcellent]

Tradie crew checking in. Feelsgoodman

I took a pay cut down to $25.15hr to break into heavy equipment repair, I monkey branched twice in 3 years, and now I'm making $41hr. Pay supposedly stops in the high 50's according to some of the old timers. One guy cleared 200k last year. There's money to be made if you have a good skill set, don't be afraid to move around if you can get the bumps in pay too.

[Destor]

I’m on a project right now Client side where all the construction supervisors are invoicing $1300-1600/day (srs) plus $200/day per diem in some cases

[AlexxVann]

Bear in mind that’s the salary you would pull as an EMPLOYEE

If you are operating under your own ABN and doing property developments on the side, you’re deep into 7 figures (although many of the tradies I know hold that accumulated wealth as assets rather than cashing out for various reasons)

100% - It's why I've honestly never understood the tradie hate in Australia.
If I had my time again I'd have dropped out of school in Year 10 and been qualified at 20.

I looked at mature age electrical apprenticeships mid 20s but was wary on reduced income for 4 years while getting qualified due to investment properties. No regrets though as reached great salary in a pretty cushy job doing what I'm doing, with enough spare time to manage other interests.

[Anachron]

Errybody wanna market economy

But don’t nobody wanna deal with the fact that their chosen “degree” is actually worthless

LIGHT WEIGHT!!!!

We can't really make to much fun of him, he admitted that he does in fact have low IQ for someone who is on the spectrum.

Add to that his soft science pseudointellectual field that provides no value to society at all...

It's brutal.

[r32gojirra]

100% - It's why I've honestly never understood the tradie hate in Australia.
If I had my time again I'd have dropped out of school in Year 10 and been qualified at 20.

I looked at mature age electrical apprenticeships mid 20s but was wary on reduced income for 4 years while getting qualified due to investment properties. No regrets though as reached great salary in a pretty cushy job doing what I'm doing, with enough spare time to manage other interests.

I literally think the hate is because white collar degree educated officecucks think they “deserve” a big income and tradies don’t

I think it’s that simple

[Anachron]

I literally think the hate is because white collar degree educated officecucks think they “deserve” a big income and tradies don’t

I think it’s that simple

White collar office cucks?

We have a "never held a job" educationscammer pulling the same chit ITT.

[GhostofCricket]

Friendly reminder the conflict between white and blue collar is manufactured by billionaires to prevent you from rising against them. Blue collar workers are more exploited, but both white and blue collar workers are cucked.

[Anachron]

Friendly reminder the conflict between white and blue collar is manufactured by billionaires to prevent you from rising against them. Blue collar workers are more exploited, but both white and blue collar workers are cucked.

So why are you backing the anti blue collar crew then?

[GhostofCricket]

So why are you backing the anti blue collar crew then?

I'm sure supporting better labor rights, working and living conditions, education, and healthcare for blue collar workers = anti blue collar. I'm anti idiot. Unfortunately, many blue collar people are idiots. This is by design of their capitalist overlords, who robbed them of a life and a proper education.

They won't even let these people pee or sit in chairs. It's insane. Bezos has a penis rocket while his warehousers have to beg for piss breaks.

[Anachron]

I'm sure supporting better labor rights, working and living conditions, education, and healthcare for blue collar workers = anti blue collar. I'm anti idiot. Unfortunately, many blue collar people are idiots.

Feel free to call out your butt buddy ITT then.

We all know you won't do it.

We all also remember how you're an insufferable "muh education" kunt who never had a real job in his whole life.

[wisezeppelin]

Any job that you absolutely have to commute to everyday is pretty much cucked one way or another.

Ideally you have a job that allows flexibility and location independence.

[Anachron]

Any job that you absolutely have to commute to everyday is pretty much cucked one way or another.

Ideally you have a job that allows flexibility and location independence.

Most tradies do not commute ( and if they do it's on the clock ).

[GhostofCricket]

It's just a sense of moral outrage that we don't feel as if people of low intelligence should be entitled to a remuneration rivalling that of more intelligent and educated professions. Your payment is supposed to reflect both the value to society, the period of education required, and the intelligence that the job demands.


But still, it doesn't matter how much you might earn. No one like that could ever rub that in my face, since you are, and will always be, a low IQ tradie. The tradie's pyramid of needs is capped off at food and sex. That can never satisfy someone like me since I need much more in the way of self-actualization and education.

No matter how big my paycheck, I'd be in a constant existential crisis knowing that I never did anything more meaningful than the troglodyte-tier low bar evolution passed milions of years ago. I need more education and more culture.

I disagree with this. There is dignity in labor. All labor is vital to society. We would be nothing without farmers, plumbers, etc. All jobs should pay well enough to live a decent life, or should be supplemented by the government to allow for a decent life. I do not look down on tradesmen even though tradie memes are funny. But they should be given a decent education, regardless. That many are uneducated is regrettable.

Pay does not reflect value to society. It only reflects market demand for what you do, which is only vaguely related to that.

Our economy has a serious problem. There are always undesirable jobs, such as being a janitor. Who is to do them? IMO people should clean their own spaces. We should have a janitorial culture where we clean up after ourselves and those who do not are shamed or even jailed. Just an example of a wage labor role being overly specialized and designated to create a lower class of people.Every person is capable of cleaning, for example. Undesirable jobs should be the shared responsibility of the beneficiaries.

[Anachron]

I disagree with this. There is dignity in labor. All labor is vital to society. We would be nothing without farmers, plumbers, etc. All jobs should pay well enough to live a decent life, or should be supplemented by the government to allow for a decent life. I do not look down on tradesmen even though tradie memes are funny. But they should be given a decent education, regardless. That many are uneducated is regrettable.

An actual tradesperson is most likely smarter than either of you.

And actually provides value to society unlike both of you net negative leeches.



Edit : But you hit the nail on the head with your edit, so props for that.
Maybe there is hope for you after all. Check to see if there are any apprenticeship incentives in your area, would help you get back on your feet.

Edit 2 : by that I mean the second paragraph.

Why do you keep editing the same post after others have replied?

I guess all the "education", and still no common sense.

Just LOL @ educationcels srs