https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/s...43026349281346
https://twitter.com/Kahlissee/status...52179184705599
American 1st Amendment ends at Israel. America students are being treated worse than North Korea - so much for freedom of sppech. If this was happening in Iran it would be all over the news.
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04-30-2024, 12:28 AM #1
American 1st Amendment ends at Israel
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04-30-2024, 06:07 AM #4
Yes, comparing the treatment they would get if this were Iran is disingenuous, that said, if they were protesting America/white supremacy...it would also be disingenuous to say the treatment would be the same as comported to protesting Israel.
The GOP are quick to point out and chastise Americans and even immigrants waving foreign flags at protests......but for some reason, never an Israeli flag???
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04-30-2024, 06:17 AM #5
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I dont think anyone should be waving around another flag, that being said, that actually IS part of the first amendment. I'm not seeing anyone waving around Israeli flags being violent or restricting others' freedoms.
Just to clarify- anyone bringing the bullchit middle east war to the US should be deported, including US citizens that continue to call out Israel while saying nothing about violent islamists that have, over time, organized themselves here in the US and deceptively use any event surrounding Israel to think theyre being woke noticeers.
It's like everyone wants to forget these people are chanting death to america, are being funded by soros. I didnt forget. You think the "kill all infidels" people are just going to be love Americans if we got rid of all jews? Thats a joke.USMC 0311
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04-30-2024, 07:42 AM #10
half the country said they were fine. half still say they were fine
i havent been paying much attention but i also havent seen the protestors that are being arrested burning down buildings, killing people, looting. so these protest actually are mostly peaceful. they are just protesting against a group that you cant protest against in america becasue america is bought and paid for by israel.
america is being run by traitors to the country. america is being run by people with allegiance to israel.
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04-30-2024, 07:58 AM #11
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04-30-2024, 08:08 AM #12
I see it more as a critique of the feckless GOP than anything. They whined and did little during the #BLM/Antifa riots, just sat back and complained -- but it sure does seem the second someone protesting Israel so much as jaywalks, six armed police are there to surround them and 'bring them to justice'. Cops are pretty good about finding reasons to arrest people when they want to.
There is definitely a double standard when it comes to criticizing Israel.
When it's the left burning chit and rioting over George Floyd, the right barks and makes a lot of noise -- because they need to look like they're against it to their voting base. When it's the left attacking Israel though, they take actual action immediately to shut it down... and more damning, the Democrats and establishment left shut it down pretty hard & fast as well.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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04-30-2024, 08:13 AM #13
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04-30-2024, 08:28 AM #15
BLM riots never challeneged the real power of the US - hence they were allowed and never confronted.
Protesting ISrael does challenge real power - a large number of elites are on the gravy train which is the Israel grift.
Israel grift : Channel money to Israel through whichever programme possible (foreign aid is a favourite) - A lot of this money is then recycled to politicians for influence and pay off. Israel is a means to wash money from western governments and direct it to politicians involved in the grift.
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04-30-2024, 08:30 AM #16
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04-30-2024, 08:47 AM #18
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Reading comprehension, ladies, I'm defending the constitutional right to protest peacefully. Obstructing students going to class, hitting people and stating they are terrorist organizations I am not condoning. Shocking two leftists are in support of Soros-paid antifa type shills setting up tent encampments. All the leftist riots are not peaceful, including this one.
You two arent Americans and are trying to prey on the Gen Z tik tok types of people as if you must take one side in this conflict. Quite a slimy jew tactic to keep ignoring the fact that I want all of your types out of my country.USMC 0311
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04-30-2024, 09:11 AM #19
I don't want to come off as defending the ones who are not protesting peacefully. Some certainly aren't and even those who are but are praising Hamas or chanting for harm to Israel, while I can respect their first amendment right, they can also respect mine when I tell them they are fuking idiots.
It's weird how binary people can be, all people. I am not a fan in the least of the actions of the Israeli zionist Government - but that's as far as it goes. I don't hold all of Israel responsible, any more than I am responsible for the harmful or immoral actions of my Government, and I certainly do not hold all of Jew-kind accountable or responsible for it, either. Some people just go there immediately, though. More, you see people who are (imo, justified) in criticizing Israel but then for some reason they immediately don't just have sympathy for the many innocent Palestinians being killed and hurt, but somehow think Hamas is the solution and not a very big part of the overall problem, which they sure-as-chit are.
I still maintain, these anti-Israel protests are being locked and shut down a lot harder and for a lot less than anything else we've seen, which includes the way more destructive and violent 2019-2020 #BLM/Antia rioting which were utterly out of control. That isn't to say every person in these anti-Israel protests are well-behaved, but just overall the level of tolerance for this free speech is about as close to zero as it gets.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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04-30-2024, 09:14 AM #20
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These protestors are sitting in the buildings right now after breaking into them. I dont see how that's close to zero. Seems similar to the BLM ones minus the fires, so far, and are lasting longer.
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04-30-2024, 09:20 AM #21
And I've seen videos of peaceful protesters doing nothing, getting a fake call from a Jewish woman walking her dog who lies to the police (false reporting) and the cops come and arrest the peaceful protesters and not the lying woman who made a false report - despite it all being caught on video.
Also, I suspect some of the trouble makers are agent provocateurs, as is always the case:
And a way bigger reaction, Columbia suspending students for protesting (not violently, but protesting) or the talk about a bill that sends "anti-semitism monitors" to college campuses and chit. Bipartisan, of course.
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6352033165112
It's absolutely a double standard when it comes to this. Of course it is. All the politicians are bought off by AIPAC or worse, probably many have outright blackmail material hanging over them.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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04-30-2024, 09:29 AM #23
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Im not saying there arent peaceful protestors at all.. I'm saying the response is due to the violent agitators.
There is a point that we are too inter-twined with Israel from military to R&D/tech, etc.. Something nobody really mentions because its good optics.. however, yes I understand it seems swayed towards Israel vs anyone else we are allied with. But just like the BLM riots, when you see this type of gathering, theres an underlying motive behind it. It's too bad the real issues that we can debate on regarding our support of Israel is hi-jacked by people that just dont like joos.USMC 0311
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04-30-2024, 09:41 AM #24
Here's the truth of the protests:
One side that hates America(100% of them) is waiving Palestinian flags and the other side that hates America(75% of them) is waiving Israeli flags. Now once this ends, both sides will come together to attack anyone with a red hat waving an American flag thats the the real boogy man.
Imagine being a MAGA voter and supporting either side, knowing that once its over, both sides will be coming for you..
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04-30-2024, 09:46 AM #25
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04-30-2024, 08:58 PM #29
You said any protestor who bring Middle Eastern wars to the US should be deported. The protestors are protesting both Irael's genocide and the undue influence of Israel over America.
Your position on Palestinian protestors: Just to clarify- anyone bringing the bullchit middle east war to the US should be deported, including US citizens that continue to call out Israel while saying nothing about violent islamists that have, over time, organized themselves here in the US and deceptively use any event surrounding Israel to think theyre being woke noticeers.
You also said "I'm not seeing anyone waving around Israeli flags being violent or restricting others' freedoms."
You clearly have a side, while masquerading as an American firster.
I am not a leftist and I'm not an American. I'm sitting here making fun of your country... you think you have the first amendment and freedom - but your freedom stops at Israel.
Soros is a zionist. You are on his side this time.
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04-30-2024, 09:00 PM #30
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