Vaccine now only 39% effective against delta and losing potency fast

[greenleaf]

LOL...


Vaccine 39% effective at halting virus transmission, 91% against serious illness, Israel's health ministry says

The report has also reflected the decreasing potency of the vaccination

Israel's Health Ministry reported Thursday that the Pfizer vaccine's efficacy in preventing delta variant infections has dropped to 39 percent, while the vaccination was still 91 percent effective in preventing serious illness among those fully inoculated.

The latest figures are based on cases logged from June 20 to July 17, a period when the delta variant of COVID-19 spread throughout Israel.

The report has also reflected the decreasing potency of the vaccination, showing a mere 16 percent effectiveness against transmission among those vaccinated in January, compared to 44 percent of those vaccinated in February, 67 percent of those who received their shots in March, and 75 percent for those vaccinated in April.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/coron...-ministry-says

[NYPat]

91% sounds pretty good. Glad you're posting this to encourage more dum dums to get vaccinated. Sure better than begging for the vaccine on your death bed.

[MirinCanadian99]

91% sounds pretty good. Glad you're posting this to encourage more dum dums to get vaccinated. Sure better than begging for the vaccine on your death bed.

You still coping sheeple?

[BunkerBoy]

Assuming this is even true, its still better than no vaccine at all.

Sounds like everyone should still get it.

[NYPat]

You still coping sheeple?

How bad do you wish the US would open the border? LOL

Assuming this is even true, its still better than no vaccine at all.

Sounds like everyone should still get it.

Only to people who aren't retarded.

[DeshaunWatson]

Assuming this is even true, its still better than no vaccine at all.

Sounds like everyone should still get it.

99.99% survival without jab if you’re under 50






Logic







Pick one.

[Bracket199]

Do we pick and choose what news sources push the narrative? I thought US CDC was the best; but I guess it's not?

[DrumsNotDead]

everyone is free to make their own choices, for now anyway....

[Reliance012]

Article is misleading. Even if the data turn out to support the 39% estimate, that is for stopping infection. It assumes that fully vaccinated with breakthrough infections are as likely to transmit as infected unvaccinated. That is not the case.

[gixxer0.6g]

I would be curious how those numbers compare to the people who had covid and have a natural immunity

[x-trainer ben]

"Still *91 percent effective in preventing serious illness* among those fully inoculated"
Thanks OP, i didn't know the percentage was so high; very helpful information that needs to be shared widely.

Is 91%>0%?

[badreligion]

91% sounds pretty good. Glad you're posting this to encourage more dum dums to get vaccinated. Sure better than begging for the vaccine on your death bed.

Aww you really are that stupid if you believed that fluff piece from Alabama.

[ghostfacedup]

Assuming this is even true, its still better than no vaccine at all.

low iq. The vaccine isn't the only option.

[EdwardTheGreat]

I would be curious how those numbers compare to the people who had covid and have a natural immunity

They don't care. They want everyone to submit.

[Dave22reborn]

"Still *91 percent effective in preventing serious illness* among those fully inoculated"
Thanks OP, i didn't know the percentage was so high; very helpful information that needs to be shared widely.

Is 91%>0%?

I know of a doctor who held the hands of those who were dying, and the person asked the doctor, "Why is this happening to me, I'm vaccinated."

The doctor didn't have an answer and just continued to hold their hand.

[Dave22reborn]

Assuming this is even true, its still better than no vaccine at all.

Sounds like everyone should still get it.

You know what would also help? If people like you lived healthy lives, instead of relying on a jab to protect you.

Why isn't the CDC encouraging people to lose weight and eat healthy, hit the gym? Eat their fruit and vegetables?

[cncman]

91% sounds pretty good. Glad you're posting this to encourage more dum dums to get vaccinated. Sure better than begging for the vaccine on your death bed.

death bed hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA

[x-trainer ben]

I know of a doctor who held the hands of those who were dying, and the person asked the doctor, "Why is this happening to me, I'm vaccinated."

The doctor didn't have an answer and just continued to hold their hand.

According to Fox news yesterday that is
5,200 break through infections
1,000 that died(75% over age 65)
so yeah Dufus it happens.

[cncman]

According to Fox news yesterday that is
5,200 break through infections
1,000 that died(75% over age 65)
so yeah Dufus it happens.

k den

the iron knee

[katya422]

Article is misleading. Even if the data turn out to support the 39% estimate, that is for stopping infection. It assumes that fully vaccinated with breakthrough infections are as likely to transmit as infected unvaccinated. That is not the case.

Only study I know of found the vaccinated infected were half as likely to transmit the virus, but I don't believe that study was done on participants with the Delta variant which IIRC increases infection rate X6.

[BullittEV]

According to Fox news yesterday that is
5,200 break through infections
1,000 that died(75% over age 65)
so yeah Dufus it happens.

And as he sat there in the gurney, begging for the vaccine, the doctor said:

[Dave22reborn]

According to Fox news yesterday that is
5,200 break through infections
1,000 that died(75% over age 65)
so yeah Dufus it happens.

Sounds like we should shut everything down again to protect your sickly friends/relatives. For the greater good......

[Dan_S]

Only study I know of found the vaccinated infected were half as likely to transmit the virus, but I don't believe that study was done on participants with the Delta variant which IIRC increases infection rate X6.

I'd love to know why people are attributing Israelis having low symptoms with the vaccine as opposed to the variant just being less deadly.

We're halfway there with people acknowledging that variants mutate to spread more easily, but the other half of the equation is still missing. It's the less deadly part, and for some reason everyone's convinced it's the vaccine and not just what we've known viruses to do for the last century.

[Dave22reborn]

And as he sat there in the gurney, begging for the vaccine, the doctor said:

What's hilarious is I just made the story up, but I'm sure if the same story was from Google, he'd fall for it.....

[x-trainer ben]

Sounds like we should shut everything down again to protect your sickly friends/relatives. For the greater good......

No that is a very very poor decision that you are promoting.

[LiftBigEatBig]

Pro-vaxxers attempting mathematical gymnastics to fit legit data out of UK/Israel into their false CNN narrative.

It's ok to admit you've been duped. We will still take you back. (not wincel or NYPat)

[Reliance012]

Only study I know of found the vaccinated infected were half as likely to transmit the virus, but I don't believe that study was done on participants with the Delta variant which IIRC increases infection rate X6.

Have the study? 50% reduction seems reasonable though. And total reduction in transmission would be even higher as it would encompass hosts where infection was prevented.

[Reliance012]

I'd love to know why people are attributing Israelis having low symptoms with the vaccine as opposed to the variant just being less deadly.

We're halfway there with people acknowledging that variants mutate to spread more easily, but the other half of the equation is still missing. It's the less deadly part, and for some reason everyone's convinced it's the vaccine and not just what we've known viruses to do for the last century.

Because there is no evidence that it is evolving to be more benign. If anything, it is evolving to be slightly more harmful.

[Fishman15]

I'd love to know why people are attributing Israelis having low symptoms with the vaccine as opposed to the variant just being less deadly.

We're halfway there with people acknowledging that variants mutate to spread more easily, but the other half of the equation is still missing. It's the less deadly part, and for some reason everyone's convinced it's the vaccine and not just what we've known viruses to do for the last century.

That sounds very sciencey but I'm pretty sure we're running on politics only now...

[GaloisTheory]

I'd love to know why people are attributing Israelis having low symptoms with the vaccine as opposed to the variant just being less deadly.

1. The hospitalization rates among the unvaccinated are nearly the same as they were for other variants (pointing toward higher).

2. The hospitalization rates for people who are vaccinated is 90% lower than the unvaccinated.

Point 1 shows that the virus has not substantially weakened. Point 2 shows that reduction is severity is attributable to the vaccine.