I don’t want kids and girls don’t want to be with me because of it

[FFAZARI]

I’m 29 and every girl I talk to brings it up and i immediately say no that’s never happening. This world sucks ass no way I’m bringing a poor soul here. In my opinion people that have kids are clueless and selfish.

What do I do in this situation? It seems like 90% want that crap

[jakedel]

Well that escalated quickly

[Silencespeaks]

I never wanted kids either but yes 99% of girls will want them.

Maybe try dating younger before girls are ready to settle down. Or casually date single moms.

[FFAZARI]

I never wanted kids either but yes 99% of girls will want them.

Maybe try dating younger before girls are ready to settle down. Or casually date single moms.

I am far far too busy to do that casual dating stuff I barely have enough time to feed myself.

The thing is me and this chick vibe really good and I actually met her 15 years ago just as a passing meeting. I’m 29 she’s 27 we’re both well off and everything could be perfect but no she wants to have a goddamn kid and I’m like no.. how do I change her mind or should I just hard pass

[Silencespeaks]

I am far far too busy to do that casual dating stuff I barely have enough time to feed myself.

The thing is me and this chick vibe really good and I actually met her 15 years ago just as a passing meeting. I’m 29 she’s 27 we’re both well off and everything could be perfect but no she wants to have a goddamn kid and I’m like no.. how do I change her mind or should I just hard pass

You should pass because children is a major life decision and in a srs relationship you should be on the same page. Let her go so you don’t waste her time and she can find someone else to marry and have kids.

[KingOmar9]

I am far far too busy to do that casual dating stuff I barely have enough time to feed myself.

The thing is me and this chick vibe really good and I actually met her 15 years ago just as a passing meeting. I’m 29 she’s 27 we’re both well off and everything could be perfect but no she wants to have a goddamn kid and I’m like no.. how do I change her mind or should I just hard pass

Lol @ changing an womans mind...you've learned nothing in 27 years.

They want kids because by time they hit 34/35 they're deemed a high risk pregnancy for both the women and fetus.

Either date younger, or find a women that don't want kids...she probably gonna be busted af tho.

[FingerNailsBrah]

Lie and say you do. Hit it till she pressures you

[yewotm8]

Not wanting to take part in the entire purpose of existence makes you undesirable. Surprising.

[FFAZARI]

You should pass because children is a major life decision and in a srs relationship you should be on the same page. Let her go so you don’t waste her time and she can find someone else to marry and have kids.

Alright I’m gonna pass even though we could rake in 500k a year and work out in the farm house gym and **** but whatever she can find some beta to wipe a kids ass with. What the ****

[FFAZARI]

Lol @ changing an womans mind...you've learned nothing in 27 years.

They want kids because by time they hit 34/35 they're deemed a high risk pregnancy for both the women and fetus.

Either date younger, or find a women that don't want kids...she probably gonna be busted af tho.

29 years*

Yeah I was really picking at straws there. It’s really annoying having to hard pass in the situation because everything else is perfect.

[JaymzJ]

I’m 29 and every girl I talk to brings it up and immediately immediately say no that’s never happening. This world sucks ass no way I’m bringing a poor soul here. In my opinion people that have kids are clueless and selfish.

What do I do in this situation? It seems like 90% want that crap

Keep searching for the other 10% if you find a girl that wants kids so bad and she’s a great girl and understanding maybe she will consider adoption as a possible option in the future.

[mgftp]

There are enough women who don't want kids out there and it's a growing trend although still a minority. Date higher class women who have a career focus and passions in life. From what I see any woman middle class or lower wants kids because breeding is the only thing that gives them a feeling of purpose.

[Silencespeaks]

Lie and say you do. Hit it till she pressures you

Don’t do this op. That is really morally wrong.

And time is precious for her because she needs to find someone else to marry and have kids ASAP. So don’t waste her time.

[FFAZARI]

Keep searching for the other 10% if you find a girl that wants kids so bad and she’s a great girl and understanding maybe she will consider adoption as a possible option in the future.

I would rather adopt three kids than have one of my own. To me this is a spiritual battle because I’ve lived on four continents and I’ve seen too much **** and know too much to bring another soul into this cesspool of criminality and deceit. I have yet to meet a single person that doesn’t carry pain with them whether it be from lack of understanding or just inability to cope so why would I inflict it on something that didn’t ask for it.

BUT good luck explaining that to her. I made this thread because it pisses me off that out of all the girls I’ve talked to you over the years we vibe the best and everything is literally goddamn perfect career wise goals wise etc as soon as this conversation came up it froze up.

Now I don’t know whether to cut it off completely or just give it a minute

[FFAZARI]

There are enough women who don't want kids out there and it's a growing trend although still a minority. Date higher class women who have a career focus and passions in life. From what I see any woman middle class or lower wants kids because breeding is the only thing that gives them a feeling of purpose.

She’s a periodontist bro. I’m an engineer and have my own company as well.

[Sarevoke75]

you're not obligated to have kids. if a girl you're seeing wants them and you don't, then part ways.

don't beat yourself down because your ideas conflict with others. it's your life. don't sacrifice if you know it won't make you happy

[FFAZARI]

This is the right answer

Source: happily married to a high income broad who wants no kids myself

Out of your experience what percentage of females would you say wanted kids until you found this one?

[bradlehman]

I can't say I really judge people who choose not to have kids, and I have gone back and forth a bit with myself about how badly I really want to have any. However, strictly speaking, it is the entire purpose of your life. You can have a meaningful life without children if you have a meaningfully positive effect on the lives of others, but you still failed the primary mission.

Sure, there are selfish reasons that some people have kids. On the other hand, consider the efforts of your ancestors over even just the past few hundred years to work and sacrifice so that, ultimately, you could be here. Against that backdrop, it seems selfish to adopt the attitude that you don't want the expense or hassle of kids; you're opting not to keep the dream alive. "Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

[CuttyUnderleaf]

Post #2...Am I the only one seeing that? Lol

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[FFAZARI]

you're not obligated to have kids. if a girl you're seeing wants them and you don't, then part ways.

don't beat yourself down because your ideas conflict with others. it's your life. don't sacrifice if you know it won't make you happy

It won’t make me happy in the slightest, I’d be pissed at myself everyday, not because of the responsibility but because I would feel guilty. If only everything else didn’t lineup right it would be an easy decision.

[Silencespeaks]

I can't say I really judge people who choose not to have kids, and I have gone back and forth a bit with myself about how badly I really want to have any. However, strictly speaking, it is the entire purpose of your life. You can have a meaningful life without children if you have a meaningfully positive effect on the lives of others, but you still failed the primary mission.

Sure, there are selfish reasons that some people have kids. On the other hand, consider the efforts of your ancestors over even just the past few hundred years to work and sacrifice so that, ultimately, you could be here. Against that backdrop, it seems selfish to adopt the attitude that you don't want the expense or hassle of kids and to keep the dream alive. "Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

It’s only the purpose of life from a biological perspective. But there are other perspectives on life. From a spiritual perspective for example it’s not the purpose of life.

[bradlehman]

It’s only the purpose of life from a biological perspective. But there are other perspectives on life. From a spiritual perspective for example it’s not the purpose of life.

And when you're dead, unfortunately, no one will remember or care what your spiritual journey entailed. Yesterday's back page news.

[Icepops81]

Simple, bang until the kids born and then disappear. Easy Peazy

[FFAZARI]

I can't say I really judge people who choose not to have kids, and I have gone back and forth a bit with myself about how badly I really want to have any. However, strictly speaking, it is the entire purpose of your life. You can have a meaningful life without children if you have a meaningfully positive effect on the lives of others, but you still failed the primary mission.

Sure, there are selfish reasons that some people have kids. On the other hand, consider the efforts of your ancestors over even just the past few hundred years to work and sacrifice so that, ultimately, you could be here. Against that backdrop, it seems selfish to adopt the attitude that you don't want the expense or hassle of kids and to keep the dream alive. "Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

You put it that way it sounds noble but when you’ve come across some of the individuals I’ve come across or done what I’ve done and seen what I have seen you would feel nothing short of guilty for even possibly exposing a soul that didn’t ask for it to any of that.

My last “girlfriend” who ended up turning to drugs after me giving everything away for two years for a glimmer of hope only to fail in the end, called me one night crying her heart out like I’ve never heard anyone cry, at 2 AM and said - “what kind of life are we living”. Honestly I’m not even sure if she’ll make it to the age of 30. I won’t get into that story but that solidified it for me, never mind my moms story my dads story my sisters - anybody’s.

I have never seen a single life path that I can say “yeah, I want my kid to have that one.”

[FFAZARI]

And when you're dead, unfortunately, no one will remember or care what your spiritual journey entailed. Yesterday's back page news.

Yeah but nobody else’s remembrance matters when it comes to your own personal journey.

[CanuckGame]

Just get snipped and agree to have kids.

Will Save you all the headache.

[bradlehman]

You put it that way it sounds noble but when you’ve come across some of the individuals I’ve come across or done what I’ve done and seen what I have seen you would feel nothing short of guilty for even possibly exposing a soul that didn’t ask for it to any of that.

My last “girlfriend” who ended up turning to drugs after me giving everything away for two years for a glimmer of hope only to fail in the end, called me one night crying her heart out like I’ve never heard anyone cry, at 2 AM and said - “what kind of life are we living”. Honestly I’m not even sure if she’ll make it to the age of 30. I won’t get into that story but that solidified it for me, never mind my moms story my dads story my sisters - anybody’s.

I have never seen a single life path that I can say “yeah, I want my kid to have that one.”

Sorry you went through that stuff, but it's also a sad, defeatist attitude. You have an opportunity to do a good job raising kids and to stack the deck in favor of the good guys going forward. If you've never seen a life path you'd want your kid to have, it seems you've been looking at a very narrow cross-section of the life paths people are or have been on.

[FFAZARI]

My ex-wife didn’t either but she was pretty much broken tbh. I’ve had a lot of good possy in my days and in my estimations I would say 10% max

2nd wife did want them when we first met and I entertained the idea for about the first three months of our relationship and somehow (probably this giant D) brought her over to my point of view which 10 years later I think she only still 5% or so regrets changing her mind about. We recently found out she’s not able to have children anyway so turned out to not matter in the end but I don’t think we would’ve got together initially had I not entertained her wants to have them.

More and more seem to be leaning towards no children these days; I think your odds are better today than they’ve ever been in history and you should hold out for one who doesn’t want them too

So it seems like I have two choices hope she’s not capable of having kids or to just say screw it and find some chick that fits every criteria.

But is that even possible? Every situation I’ve been in or seen it seems like you have to make a compromise in some regard.

[JaymzJ]

I would rather adopt three kids than have one of my own. To me this is a spiritual battle because I’ve lived on four continents and I’ve seen too much **** and know too much to bring another soul into this cesspool of criminality and deceit. I have yet to meet a single person that doesn’t carry pain with them whether it be from lack of understanding or just inability to cope so why would I inflict it on something that didn’t ask for it.

BUT good luck explaining that to her. I made this thread because it pisses me off that out of all the girls I’ve talked to you over the years we vibe the best and everything is literally goddamn perfect career wise goals wise etc as soon as this conversation came up it froze up.

Now I don’t know whether to cut it off completely or just give it a minute

That is a difficult decision and I am on the same page as not wanting to bring a child into this world because it will become increasingly difficult both for the child and yourself living in this world the way it is with so much immorality running rampant. There is a lot to protect a kid from these days. But you shouldn’t judge her for her views either, it’s a very natural want to have your own kids and unless you can help her see differently, you still should respect how she feels and listen to her reasoning.

[bradlehman]

Yeah but nobody else’s remembrance matters when it comes to your own personal journey.

Assuming that's true, you can decide whether you prefer to go on a personal journey that will end and likely be immediately forgotten forever or that will end and be remembered, recounted, and cherished by your progeny (assuming you do a good job).