Misc Firearms Crew LXXVII: Locked (Down) and Loaded

[Farley1324]

Awesome man. Thanks. That was my thought - put one in my car, house, bag, etc. Eventually maybe take some kind of training too. Don’t remember a whole lot from the army honestly. Lol.

Tourniquet the limbs, pack the junctions, seal the box.

TQ at least 3-4" above wound, if in doubt, go high and tight. Don't worry about losing the limb from the TQ restricting bloodflow, that takes numerous hours to become a thing. You are unlikely to cause damage with a TQ, if there's holy **** that's a lot of of blood squirting out, use it first and ask questions later. For thigh especially check pockets for objects first

When in doubt, direct pressure right at the source and keep it there. Lots of pressure. For what will seem like a long time. Then longer. And probably even more pressure, think full bodyweight.

But that's just what I've picked up I'm no medic

[taf1968]

IFAK?

Israeli Bandage/Emergency Trauma Dressing
Gauze (possibly hemostatic variety)
Gloves
TCCC approved tourniquet preferably stored outside the IFAK and accessible with one hand
Chest seals
Sheers

Check north american rescue, chinook medical, dark angel medical (they always have a 20% coupon it seems which makes their prices more normal)

Pouches, depends how much size/real estate you have to give and where you're putting it.

Consider each vehicle, home, range bag, PC/belt

No Kotex . . . I am disappoint.

[Beararms]

Just picked up a JC Higgins Model 60 12g. Nothing crazy but I love it.

[Ikeman83]

Why are you guys still blowing money on a 50th gun? Buy some nods, armor, food, batteries, etc...things that aren't just one more gun on the pile. That is, unless you have 50 unarmed friends.

Somewhere around ~10-20 guns most people are like "oh, why am I still buying new guns?" Then you have the 4eas of the world with 20 identical ARs and no scopes.

[Farley1324]

Somewhere around ~10-20 guns most people are like "oh, why am I still buying new guns?" Then you have the 4eas of the world with 20 identical ARs and no scopes.

Or lights or slings or the T word

Not that there's anything wrong with that

[taf1968]

Just picked up a JC Higgins Model 60 12g. Nothing crazy but I love it.

I have my dad's JC Higgins (Sears) 12g in the basement . . . probably 1950s/1960s. Makes a Mosin Nagant look like an SBR.

[NuggzTheNinja]

I'd love some NODs. But aren't you looking at dropping 15-20k for a good set up? You'd need a MAWL, the actual night vision binoculars, and then a helmet and mount?

Guess we need to define good...I'd define good as in, "Can I shoot, move, and communicate in conditions of darkness that my likely opponents cannot?" You don't need $15k in gear to get there.

You can get a good Gen 3 PVS14 for $2500 and aim passively with your red dot (nv settings are preferred). You don't need a $3000+ MAWL. A DBAL D2 has a more powerful illuminator and you can find them under $1200.

The cheapest you can possibly use NV is basically monocular, Crye nightcap, wilcox mount, a ****ty J arm, and a NV-compatible Holosun and you're at under $3k for the entire thing. Obviously it's not the best setup ever, but it's usable and a hell of a lot better than one or two extra ARs that sit around collecting dust.

What was the helmet you posted the other day? Tried to find the post and couldn’t. Was thinking of getting one of the actual ballistic ones, but no idea what a good brand is.

Opscore bump helmet. I have a ballistic helmet too but it's heavy as **** and, like every other ballistic helmet, doesn't really stop rifle bullets.

https://www.armsunlimited.com/Helmets-s/1841.htm

[Ikeman83]

Delicious...

[4ea]

Somewhere around ~10-20 guns most people are like "oh, why am I still buying new guns?" Then you have the 4eas of the world with 20 identical ARs and no scopes.

2 identical 20" 5.56 ARs, 2 identical 16" 5.56 ARs and 2 identical 20" 308 M5s. soon 2 more identical 16" 308 M5s.

dont lie, you know youre myron

[gbullock32]

Guess we need to define good...I'd define good as in, "Can I shoot, move, and communicate in conditions of darkness that my likely opponents cannot?" You don't need $15k in gear to get there.

You can get a good Gen 3 PVS14 for $2500 and aim passively with your red dot (nv settings are preferred). You don't need a $3000+ MAWL. A DBAL D2 has a more powerful illuminator and you can find them under $1200.

The cheapest you can possibly use NV is basically monocular, Crye nightcap, wilcox mount, a ****ty J arm, and a NV-compatible Holosun and you're at under $3k for the entire thing. Obviously it's not the best setup ever, but it's usable and a hell of a lot better than one or two extra ARs that sit around collecting dust.




Opscore bump helmet. I have a ballistic helmet too but it's heavy as **** and, like every other ballistic helmet, doesn't really stop rifle bullets.

While I do plan to invest in more set up for NV later, let's be real, most people will get as much legit use from it as another AR or whatever gun they buy; a civilian just isn't likely to need or train with it enough to be effective.

I'll buy one because it's another neat toy to have that I'll rarely use, but first is artificial grass in the yard, new floors, then the Ruger Precision Rifle I want; also looking to get a side by side shotgun, a lever action 45-70, and probably finally a 10/22.

Edit: Remember, for the vast majority, shooting is also a hobby, not like everyone is training for SHTF or to be a LARP Operator (not saying you are).

I like having a wide variety to take to the range a few times a month and have fun with friends just shooting stuff; I train enough through extra range time at work.

[LinuxJon]

any suggestions for a small pistol safe? I want something to keep in my bedroom that'll hold a pair of handguns and is quick to open

https://stopboxusa.com/products/stopbox

They work for kids and lazy adults. That's all any pistol safe does. But this one is easier to open quickly.

[JChippy]

You ever try to sit against a wall as long as you can and then sprint 50 yards?

In high school and haven't done it again. No thanks jeff.

I'm doing his full on plan so it's a 4 day split - power, strength, "speed & quickness" (agility), and hypertrophy. Day 5 is skills (my normal dry fire Friday stuff I'll probably do then, but with less emphasis on squatting and kneeling position stuff...more high ready low ready, more pistol dry fire).

Power is basically 3 x 1 minute circuits of 5 or 6 exercises. 2 should be transverse plane (bag of body parts, one handed dumbell press, smashing a smash ball, throwing a tire, or whacking a tire with a sledge)

Strength is 5 sets x 5 exercises x 5 reps per exercise of progressive load, 2s up, 2s hold, 2s down so pretty slow and heavy. Normal compound strength stuff so squats, deads, but also things like dumbell pushups into rows. I did this one today and it rekt me pretty hard.

Agility is 4 x 1 minute circuits of agility work. I haven't done this one yet...that's for Wednesday.

Hypertrophy is Thursday...it's basically your strength exercises but instead of a bunch of low rep sets, it's 5 or 6 exercises, 20 rep sets to absolute failure followed by drop sets all the way down.



This is totally different than anything else I've done before. The unique parts are emphasis on lots of rotational / "transverse" plane stuff, and the multiple different *types* of workouts that are essentially full body, just emphasizing different things (power, agility, strength...). I'm wondering to see how I'll respond as natty since I've always followed traditional bodybuilding workouts that are very clearly intended for guys that are juiced up (5 day bro split, PPL etc) and not nearly as combat-focused. The truth is, I probably don't need a lot of heavy lifting to maintain the muscle that I do have, but I'm looking to be more resilient against injury and powerful with respect to rotation, punches, kicks, etc.

It's more or less how i've changed my training to mimic as well since gyms are still closed in MI. I've got his bands, and an unfinished basement so my support beams work very well for "planting" the bands. Will probably keep this style even when gyms open back up, with a "power" day at the gym once a week or so.

[gbullock32]

https://stopboxusa.com/products/stopbox

They work for kids and lazy adults. That's all any pistol safe does. But this one is easier to open quickly.

Give any kid more than a minute and they'd be through that; might keep your cat from causing a negligent discharge, but that's about it.

[rectifryer]

2 identical 20" 5.56 ARs, 2 identical 16" 5.56 ARs and 2 identical 20" 308 M5s. soon 2 more identical 16" 308 M5s.

dont lie, you know youre myron

where you getting m5 assembled uppers right now?

[PapaBurgandy]

Morning, MFC.

[Farley1324]

While I do plan to invest in more set up for NV later, let's be real, most people will get as much legit use from it as another AR or whatever gun they buy; a civilian just isn't likely to need or train with it enough to be effective.

I'll buy one because it's another neat toy to have that I'll rarely use, but first is artificial grass in the yard, new floors, then the Ruger Precision Rifle I want; also looking to get a side by side shotgun, a lever action 45-70, and probably finally a 10/22.

Edit: Remember, for the vast majority, shooting is also a hobby, not like everyone is training for SHTF or to be a LARP Operator (not saying you are).

I like having a wide variety to take to the range a few times a month and have fun with friends just shooting stuff; I train enough through extra range time at work.

FYI he's probably more RED status, like Bruce Willis

[SpeedCheeser]

FYI he's probably more RED status, like Bruce Willis

You take it back. Nuggz will never be red. Not while I still have any greens left to give.

[PapaBurgandy]

FYI he's probably more RED status, like Bruce Willis

I would venture that Nuggz is more the Malkovich type...at least I hope.

[Scarrdbutsmartr]

What does the Misc recommend regarding sights for an AR15 for general quick target acquisition?

Im looking for a hard working and rugged "Coca-Cola" option and not necessarily the Mercedes Benz...

[Farley1324]

What does the Misc recommend regarding sights for an AR15 for general quick target acquisition?

Im looking for a hard working and rugged "Coca-Cola" option and not necessarily the Mercedes Benz...

Trijicon MRO would be the Coca-Cola, fresh, in an ice cold glass bottle.

A kind of cold-ish aluminum can would be a Vortex Sparc AR II

In case you're curious, the Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet would be a Vortex Razor HD 1-10.

You don't even want to know what the Ferrari would be, more than you can afford pal

[rahfulz]

Missed a blem aero lower and 11.5” bcm upper yesterday..

big mad

[CrookedDink]

What does the Misc recommend regarding sights for an AR15 for general quick target acquisition?

Im looking for a hard working and rugged "Coca-Cola" option and not necessarily the Mercedes Benz...

People seem to like EOTech and Holosun. I have a HS 510C personally. Easy to use with both eyes open.

[Brozef]

GAwk

[Unstumpable]

Eotech g33 magnifier shipped today. Was happy about that until I checked my bank statement. It hadn’t been taken out until it shipped...thought I had already taken that hit lol

[NuggzTheNinja]

FYI he's probably more RED status, like Bruce Willis

Lol very generous ty breh

[PLANETGETLOW]

TFW Mods don't know how to post pictures.......

posting images from a mobile platform sucks....

This little pistol will get down....any guesses on the build

[TBO1313]

posting images from a mobile platform sucks....

This little pistol will get down....any guesses on the build

Poverty Pony with a 7.62 upper, sig Romeo optic with an SB15 brace with a quad rail and M11 style brake. I like it. Srs.

A 30 year old boomer build fo sho. How long is the barrel? 11.5?

[taf1968]

posting images from a mobile platform sucks....

This little pistol will get down....any guesses on the build

Looks like an Anderson/DanFogelberg lower. Can't make out much else on quick glance but maybe someone recognizes upper?

[PLANETGETLOW]

Poverty Pony with a 7.62 upper, sig Romeo optic with an SB15 brace with a quad rail and M11 style brake. I like it. Srs.

A 30 year old boomer build fo sho. How long is the barrel? 11.5?

Pretty close actually. 10.5 barrel and of course the GEN X big dawg binary trigger...

[LinuxJon]

as much as you can possibly negotiate for. try haggling for at least 1000 arguing that 380 is hard to come by and expensive. you may get talked down from that depending on how convincing you are

Guy is willing to trade 900rds of the Federal 9mm plus add 200rds of PMC 223 for my 380. Decent deal? Debating if I hold out for just a good 5.56 package. Would use either.

This is the specific type of federal