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    Solid PPV aside from the hundredth attempt by the WWE to recreate the Screwjob.
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    Originally Posted by ballieveryday View Post
    The only way to save Reigns at this point is to have him team up with the shield. People are going to continue to boo that guy if they continue Reigns vs. The Bullet Club.
    They will still boo Reigns and it will ruin The Shield forever.
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    This was a really good PPV.
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    A good show overall, but the creative was certainly bad at points, and for a "new era," it certainly seems like plenty of the same old, same old.
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    Reigns wins lol
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    Originally Posted by HoganIsGOAT View Post
    A good show overall, but the creative was certainly bad at points, and for a "new era," it certainly seems like plenty of the same old, same old.
    New Era was only for one match.

    Well see how it plays out.

    Hoping for blood and make it a bit edgier.
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    I don't see a Shield reunion happening. It's more likely to be Reigns/Usos/Samoa Joe vs. Balor Club. Especially when you consider Balor and Joe have a pretty lengthy feud going in NXT. If this is the route they go though, Reigns and company need to be the heels, or people probably won't care as much.
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    Why did the Wyatt Family feature on all the promo material to only not feature in the actual event? Some more solid continuity work from WWE.

    Welcome to the new era, exactly the same as the old era.

    My thoughts:

    - Kevin Owens versus Sami Zayn was awesome, even though I dislike both of their characters.
    * They shouldn't have taken shade away from Cesaro and Miz though.

    - Why have AJ Styles lose to Jericho, to have Dean Ambrose beat him and AJ go on to compete for the WWE HWC? Strong logic from WWE.
    * Also this match was awful, despite both being good wrestlers.

    - Re-creating the Montreal screwjob, only this time with Ric Flair's 5.9/10 daughter and a fat lesbian in Bret Hart's ring gear.

    - Going to announce big changes to who runs Raw... Announce that nothing is going to change. WWE gon' WWE.

    - WWE need to strike while the iron is hot with Bullet Club and stop fukking around, also fuk the Usos to hell and back, they are fukking awful and boring as chit. Just hurry up and build towards Bullet Club versus Roman Empire versus Wyatt Family.

    Conclusion:

    WWE are great at making it seem like big, logical story lines are going to happen, only for you to sit through a 3 hour PPV and at the end be like "Okay, nothing fukking happened at all"

    At this point I would welcome Vince Russo back with open arms. Fuk the neck-beard feminist beta nu-male era, it is terrible.
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    Originally Posted by RScary15 View Post
    New Era was only for one match.

    Well see how it plays out.

    Hoping for blood and make it a bit edgier.
    The main event was essentially done to get Shane and Stephanie over. Everything revolves around the McMahon's. They are the stars. It's the same old shit.
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    Originally Posted by HoganIsGOAT View Post
    The main event was essentially done to get Shane and Stephanie over. Everything revolves around the McMahon's. They are the stars. It's the same old shit.
    This.

    AJ Styles busted his ass in that match in order to put over Stephanie McMahon.

    I actually felt for Roman Reigns because with a massive amount of help from AJ, he actually had a good showing and got shade thrown on him by the McMahon's when he could have actually gone over a little bit from that main event, had they actually centred the story on him and AJ rather than Shane and Stephanie... And Vince.
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    Originally Posted by HoganIsGOAT View Post
    The main event was essentially done to get Shane and Stephanie over. Everything revolves around the McMahon's. They are the stars. It's the same old shit.
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    Originally Posted by LMW View Post
    what happened to finn's debut? order 66 on your sources
    "Finn Balor may or may not debut tonight"

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    Originally Posted by LMW View Post
    what happened to finn's debut? order 66 on your sources
    You have to realize that plans for these shows are written hours prior to, or even during, the actual show. Plans are frequently changed. The same source in WWE who told me about Finn also told me that Shane was returning to Raw, and Joe would win the NXT Championship on a house show. We're talking about the date of one thing that he wasn't correct on. That's a great track record for wrestling. Finn will still debut soon. I don't know why it changed, but it did. I would think tonight, or the next PPV, but I think now I'm just going to keep my mouth shut when I hear anything.
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    Originally Posted by HoganIsGOAT View Post
    You have to realize that plans for these shows are written hours prior to, or even during, the actual show. Plans are frequently changed. The same source in WWE who told me about Finn also told me that Shane was returning to Raw, and Joe would win the NXT Championship on a house show. We're talking about the date of one thing that he wasn't correct on. That's a great track record for wrestling. Finn will still debut soon. I don't know why it changed, but it did. I would think tonight, or the next PPV, but I think now I'm just going to keep my mouth shut when I hear anything.
    Not sure why people still complain about dirtsheet-esque reports about this industry that don't come true, since it is known to be a business that keeps info close to the vest, changes plans at the last minute, and known to purposefully throw off insiders. People should realize that all reports should be taken with a grain of salt, even if they were spoken by Vince McMahon himself. They probably did have plans for Finn to debut last night...and probably had plans for him to debut the night after 'Mania...and probably have plans to debut him tonight...and that's just how it is, as Raw rolls on....
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    who really thought AJ was gunna win, like seriously ?
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    Originally Posted by StatutoryApe213 View Post
    ambrose has yet to officially win the wwe championship....the shield should reunite only after these two things have happened imo
    I'm afraid I have some bad news...

    It's clear that Ambrose will never get the strap.
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    Pretty enjoyable PPV in my opinion.

    Shame about Enzo getting hurt in the tag match. Was optimistic about a good showing from those 4.
    Zayn & Owens had a tremendous match.
    Miz & Cesaro had a good match too. I think I liked how those two matches merged and i guess has set up a 4 way rivalry for the IC title? Good.
    Women's match was a little underwhelming, the "screw job" ending was lame. Both are capable of and have given us a lot better in the past. Not terrible but not great.
    Title match I really liked. Roman did his role well and AJ was ... actually... phenomenal. Good story telling IMO.
    McMahon segment I went and made a snack. I think the entire Universe is bored of that stuff. How they've done things lately with Shane just wanting to put on a good show and give new guys a chance should be the "management" storyline IMO. Adds to the show but doesn't dominate it.
    Kickoff matches were good too. Ryback and Kallisto had a nice match IMO. Both guys are kind of underappreciated by the live audiences right now IMO.
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