Phil Heath would WRECK Dorian

[PaLftr]

I see so many threads saying Dorian is the GOAT behind Ronnie, and Dorian would destroy Phil Heath.



Are you guys on fking crack?



Phil Heath would WRECK Dorian Yates from head to toe.


If you think otherwise, show a fair comparison that you think shows Dorian beating Phil, I bet you can't.

[Larfleeze]

1. Ronnie
2. Jay
3. Dorian
4. Phil

Dorian annihilates Phil from the front, draws from the side and wins from the back

FBD - Dorian
FLS - Dorian
Ab thigh - Dorian
MM - Phil
Side chest - Phil
Side tri - Dorian
RLS - Dorian
BDB - Dorian

[Gorky88]

Well you are thinking "otherwise", so you should maybe "show a fair comparison" yourself.
Phil can maybe beat him at his best but to say that he would WRECK him from head to toe is a very ballsy thing to say.

Dorian was beating guys like Shawn Ray, Nasser, Kevin, Cormier. He is not some random no name or someone with the development of Larry Scott.

[woodstein]

Personally I think that it would be pretty tight, but that's crazy when you think of the time difference. Dorian was way ahead of his time in terms of condition and even raw size and development.

The advances in training, nutrition and 'supplementation' should imo mean that Phil should be much further ahead than he is. The fact that it's debatable is testament to how good dorian was.

[deathmetal1992]

I'm not going to break it down pose by pose since I've already done one in a previous thread. Let's just say it could go either way, it really depends who's really on that day. 1995 Mr.o/1996 German prix dorian without the torn arms would be really hard to beat, same can be said for 2011 Phil. Only 2 people that could are 2001-2006,2009 Jay and Ronnie at any time during his reign apart from 2002.

[NVious]

Maybe if he had Ronnie's clavicles.

[JaxVilleNick]

Maybe if he had Ronnie's clavicles.

pretty much this. phil would look pretty small next to a prime dorian, and dorian would be just as conditioned if not more.

[bartosh]

The deciding factor would be phil's legs from the rear which look significantly wider than dorian's. That sweep would make phil win all back poses. Phil also wins all side poses so he maybe loses one or two front poses. Phil wins

[Larfleeze]

The deciding factor would be phil's legs from the rear which look significantly wider than dorian's. That sweep would make phil win all back poses. Phil also wins all side poses so he maybe loses one or two front poses. Phil wins

[spamy]

OP should practice more his trolling skills.

[Jaixs]

Yeah, I also have Phil winning quite convincingly.

[RobberBaron13]

OP likes his jokes doesnt he ..

Prime Dorian would crush Heath, the width and hardness difference would be embarrasing.
Heath just doesnt have the frame to hang with the all-time greats, has he ever had an Olympia in which he crushed everybody?NO

[bartosh]

filterfilterfilter

Can you imagine how much better phil would look with filtered/grainy/high contrast shots. i could. ;]

[boxer1234]

Dorian's conditioning and mass trumps Heath
Only pose I see Heath winning are FDB and MM

All side poses and back poses Dorian wins hands down, not to mention FLS and Abs and thighs

Dorian 5'9 1993= 257lbs with grain type conditioning
Phil 5'9 2011- 245lbs with great conditioning

Would be Phils superiour muscle seperation vs Dorians' grainy, dry to the bone look

[Larfleeze]

Can you imagine how much better phil would look with filtered/grainy/high contrast shots. i could. ;]

I can indeed. Still wouldn't beat Dozza. Mass, width, conditioning, dryness..Dorian wins just about everything vs Heath. Some differences in the sharpness etc of photos isn't changing that.

[flangmasterj]

Dorian's not touching this at all.

[RobberBaron13]

Nice try flang, prime Yates's mass, conditioning and width trump Heath and you know it.

[flangmasterj]

Nice try fang, prime Yates's mass, conditioning and width trump Heath and you know it.

I didn't have to try. You reckon Dorian's back double would beat Phil's? A shot which has near zero flaws?

[bartosh]

I can indeed. Still wouldn't beat Dozza. Mass, width, conditioning, dryness..Dorian wins just about everything vs Heath. Some differences in the sharpness etc of photos isn't changing that.

I guess we'l leave it at an agree to disagree. I think the 90s is overrated in general other than a prime dorian.

[RobberBaron13]

Phil's BDB is marginally better because of his delts, arms and quad sweep. Dorian is dryier and has that insane thickness Phil just lacks.
It has one pretty big flaw- lack of width.This would stand out alot if the two were standing next to each other.
Anyway, its not like he who wins the BDB wins the contest.

[JohnSmeton]

Dorians had better thickness, and conditioning. Its not like your going to see them compete next to one another so make even speculate just take what was for just that, history. Dorian was the first man to ever reach that size , weight, and level of conditioning ever in the world up until when he did it.

If you do want to compere, Dorian outsizes and out conditions Phil end of story.

btw look at Phil train and look at Dorian train lol big difference-Dorian outworked worked him huge time, train much heavier, and with much more intensity

[flangmasterj]

Phil's BDB is marginally better because of his delts, arms and quad sweep. Dorian is dryier and has that insane thickness Phil just lacks.
It has one pretty big flaw- lack of width.This would stand out alot if the two were standing next to each other.
Anyway, its not like he who wins the BDB wins the contest.

Funny you keep bringing up width when in the back double Dorian's monstrous lat width pretty much disappears. Also thickness? In the back double? Phil looks pretty thick to me in that shot.

[flangmasterj]

I guess we'l leave it at an agree to disagree. I think the 90s is overrated in general other than a prime dorian.

Did you just stealth out on this thread bro?


I'm sure this exact thread has been done a few times before.

[spamy]

Dorian's not touching this at all.

Here is a pic of Dave Henry alone on stage challenging a pic of Phil alone on stage. It's like Instagram.

[Larfleeze]

I didn't have to try. You reckon Dorian's back double would beat Phil's? A shot which has near zero flaws?

Dorian's is practically flawless too.

[flangmasterj]

Here is a pic of Dave Henry alone on stage challenging a pic of Phil alone on stage. It's like Instagram.

Well then this thread is pointless then.



P.S Phil ****s on David Henry.

[flangmasterj]

Dorian's is practically flawless too.

[Unbiasedfan]

A shot which has near zero flaws?

i am struggling to find one.

[bartosh]

Did you just stealth out on this thread bro?


I'm sure this exact thread has been done a few times before.

Stealth out? what do you mean?

Every month or two, people toss out that the 90s is the golden age and everything after sucks. They go on about how the 90s top6 would all place top 2 these days.
Shawn rhoden would place second at the olympia throughout the 90s.
a 2012 Kai greene and a 2011 phil heath would win throughout the 90s.
The only top guys who came in peeled were shawn ray and dorian

random googling rear shot. I hope i'm wrong and that this is a guestposing shot.



half the lineup in the 90s didn't even have striated glutes. People keep posting these filtered to fk pics with some crazy width distortion and think that's how the competitors in the 90s actually looked. just LOL at nasser's back. he placed top3 with that back

One of these days i'm going to do a comparison of the 90s to now. Or i'll learn photoshop and show people how crazy today's competitors would look with picturs/distorted video effects from the 90s.

[Larfleeze]

Phil's arms are bigger, Dorian takes everything else. I know you love Phil but come on..he's no Dorian, Jay or Ronnie. He can only win in a weak era due to dodgy judging/guys pulling out. He was unbelievable once and has never even come close to it since (and even then wasn't on the level of those guys).