OHP carryover to bench?

[workboots]

What do you guys think? Does OHP carryover to bench? I personally believe from experience that it doesn't at all and it seems to be the general consensus from all of the his I've trained with. It is a great lift and has its place in training but It seems pointless to me to use it to supplement your benching. Close grip bench, incline bench, floor presses, etc have carryover to bench. Squats have carryover to deadlift ie your deadlift will go up if your squat goes up, even if you neglect deadlift training. However if you neglect benching and focus on OHP, your bench will not go up.

[gainmusclefast]

for me no

[adpowah]

I find it helps my shoulders stay healthy (which helps in the long run) but I don't believe it adds pounds to my bench in the immediacy.

[Anthony21]

I've noticed no direct carryover at all.

[workboots]

I find it helps my shoulders stay healthy (which helps in the long run) but I don't believe it adds pounds to my bench in the immediacy.

Yeah I'm not denying that at all. OHP has always been part of my routine for that reason

[Trolltongue]

From what I've read it depends largely on people, their weaknesses and how they bench.

For me I've noticed that when I'm doing both bench and OHP and one goes up they both go up, but I think that's more bench carrying over to OHP than vice versa; recently set a 1RM PR in the OHP after not doing it for months but improving my bench quite a bit.

[NorthStrong]

If you have an awful overhead press in comparison to your bench, it wouldn't hurt to bring it up. If you are coming from a strongman background with a huge OHP focus, trying to improve your bench as much as possible then it would not make a ton of sense to keep pushing your OHP super hard since it's already very good.

[Bballer99]

it can help a bit if you bench with a closer grip as close grip depends a bit more on shoulder flexion than horizontal adduction, and shoulder flexion strength is what the overhead press targets mainly.

Wide grip/standard grip benchers would get more benefits from incline than overhead.

[ecchastang]

The only thing I have ever gotten from barbell overhead press is achy shoulders.

[Spacew00t]

It carries over, but if you're training for PL it should be done sparingly to strengthen shoulders. Not 1:1 or anything like in SS\SL. My OHP is strong in comparison to my bench press, but I train them 1:1 as I'm not competing yet.

[littlebones6]

Weak carryover at best for me. I'll echo what others have said in that it helps my shoulders stay in shape with all dat dere bench press.

[scotpak1979]

Incorporated ohp around 9 months ago. Not sure about carryover but my shoulders look and feel great.

[PushForGreat]

I'd echo what was said about it depending on your sticking point. If your anterior delts are your sticking point and the ohp gets you training them more, then yes, there will be a perceived carry over. You are already hitting the anterior delts hard with the flat bench though so it's unnecessary. If you feel it improves your mobility then by all means, stick with it. I mostly lift heavy **** overhead to work on my balance with heavy **** overhead, for real world applications and whatnot...

[justinvb_657]

From what I've read it depends largely on people, their weaknesses and how they bench.

For me I've noticed that when I'm doing both bench and OHP and one goes up they both go up, but I think that's more bench carrying over to OHP than vice versa; recently set a 1RM PR in the OHP after not doing it for months but improving my bench quite a bit.

This x2

[invain]

In general yes. Like Northstrong said, if you have **** shoulder strength, of course you're bench is going to improve as your OHP goes up.

But it definitely depends on the person overall.

[JustinLeeL91]

I only see carry over when I do high rep sets of ohp, about 15-20. My triceps are always my limit in my pressing and that's about when they really start to activate for me.

[sup_jason]

Nope my bench is much stronger compared to ohp...

[paulosantos0922]

I don't know how true it is, but I watched a video where some guy said that it carries over some more if you use the same grip on your bench as you do OHP. Don't know how true it is because I always thought it depended on your weakness.

[adamsz]

It's obviously going to vary form person to person, but in my own experience, it has little to none.

[bigwoody117]

Seated OHP press helped me go from 290 to 330.

[WorldDomnit]

I've noticed front delt work helps my shoulders from feeling like sh*t after I bench...

Front barbell raises superset with OHP (I don't lock it out because my triceps are drained from benching) = shoulders of peace

[Evabody]

During the period my bench has increased from 250 to 275, my OHP has increased from about 160 to 170-175ish. I suspect that the heavy involvement of the triceps in both movements have good carry over to each other.