4300 calories, Not Gaining Weight sigh

[demisecomes]

How long have you been eating like this? It looked like you said only two weeks. If that's the case, don't expect instant gains. Also don't get worked up on your weight number. I didn't see increases on the scale, but could notice physical changes in size and appearance during my first two months of training.

About a month and a half, but maybe you're right the scale is usually what disheartens me. I'll report back here after I get some tests done if anything is up.

[Former300lber]

I really dont know, my friends have commented on my fast metabolism too. But for starters I have no appetite, I can go a day or two easy without eating if I choose to. 1900 would mean I would have to work hard to get that much in.

Im not sure if the workouts contribute much, but I do Parkour/Freerunning, focus heavy on bodyweight conditioning, gymnastics, martial arts. I do occassionally throw a few random kicks in throughout the day, but I really doubt they burn that much.

Also, I'm paki so maybe the dumb asian genes are why I'm so skinny lol.

Boom, Found the problem...


You are UNDERESTIMATING YOUR CALORIE'S... if you think it's hard to get in 1900 calorie's (Something I eat for lunch) then I can PROMISE you, you have NO idea what 4k calorie's actually look's like.


4300 calorie's is like 7 big mac's, and a medium fry...

[ironwill2008]

Was there anything amiss from the diet plan I posted? Am I supposed to measure everything with a food scale and if so are the serving size and calories on nutrition labels inherently flawed in any way?

Well, it's either start measuring everything or continue as you've been doing.


How's that working for you?

Also, I'm paki so maybe the dumb asian genes are why I'm so skinny lol.

You're so skinny because you don't eat enough.

[DAaaMan64]

Seek medical attention if you're telling the truth and still losing weight. That is a symptom of Diabetes type 1.

[demisecomes]

Boom, Found the problem...


You are UNDERESTIMATING YOUR CALORIE'S... if you think it's hard to get in 1900 calorie's (Something I eat for lunch) then I can PROMISE you, you have NO idea what 4k calorie's actually look's like.


4300 calorie's is like 7 big mac's, and a medium fry...

I could do that, just saying I really would hate having to do it lol. I have to be up till 1am just to get all the food in. I posted the diet plan Im eating every day, I can't see it being off by much more than 500 -800 cals even if the labels were really off. the plan is actually around 4500 probably with the cheese and mayo and all that. I could be wrong though I never used a food scale or anything though.

I will try adding more food in any case, but I'm just wondering if it might be a medical thing because usually people that eat this much are 180lb+.

And damn i hope its not diabetes lol.

[MrBillson]

I could do that, just saying I really would hate having to do it lol. I have to be up till 1am just to get all the food in. I posted the diet plan Im eating every day, I can't see it being off by much more than 500 -800 cals even if the labels were really off. the plan is actually around 4500 probably with the cheese and mayo and all that. I could be wrong though I never used a food scale or anything though.

I will try adding more food in any case, but I'm just wondering if it might be a medical thing because usually people that eat this much are 180lb+.

And damn i hope its not diabetes lol.

The sensible thing would be to actually track your calories for a while to see if you are in fact consuming the amount that you think you are.

[demisecomes]

The sensible thing would be to actually track your calories for a while to see if you are in fact consuming the amount that you think you are.

Ill get a food scale and give it a go then.

[MikeK46]

How people struggle to eat food baffles me, eat a pizza/ tub of ice cream a couple share size chocolate bars. So long as you meet your macros and micros it wont kill you

I'm trying to do a little better than eat a diet that "won't kill me." To maximize health, the majority of the calories (e.g. 80-85%) should be coming from whole and minimally processed food. 20% processed food is fine. Tubs of ice cream and a bunch of chocolate candy, however, isn't part of the gameplan.

[devill1am]

I'm trying to do a little better than eat a diet that "won't kill me." To maximize health, the majority of the calories (e.g. 80-85%) should be coming from whole and minimally processed food. 20% processed food is fine. Tubs of ice cream and a bunch of chocolate candy, however, isn't part of the gameplan.

I really struggle to see how people can have trouble eating enough calories too. I'm 5'7, 160lbs and clean bulk on 2800 calories (2500 maintenance) - with a healthy diet. At that, I have to restrict myself from eating more - I could easily eat another 1000 calories. I genuinely cannot feel sorry for people who struggle to eat enough - the other side (struggling to keep weight and appetite down) is so much worse.

[Lvisaa2]

He said he was involved in parkour, martial arts, and weight training. Why do people find his caloric needs to be that unbelievable? I'd get my thyroid checked to be careful and start measuring to ensure accuracy, but I don't think it is crazy to think you just need to eat more.

[determined4000]

Just keep a bag of nuts, dried fruit and graonla with you all day and and munch.
Dont drink anything w/o cals-->milk, juice, gatorade, whey

try to vary your diet
sometimes when you eat the same thin over and over you tend to stop caring to eat it again. So maybe spicing things up will at least make it more palatable.
Ex. Instead of pasta twice a day, try rice, potatoes, omelets, sandwiches, make your own pizza,
instead of waffles, try french toast, bagels, eggs, proats, grits
Instead of chicken patty, try burgers, meatballs, ham, etc

[MikeK46]

I really struggle to see how people can have trouble eating enough calories too. I'm 5'7, 160lbs and clean bulk on 2800 calories (2500 maintenance) - with a healthy diet. At that, I have to restrict myself from eating more - I could easily eat another 1000 calories. I genuinely cannot feel sorry for people who struggle to eat enough - the other side (struggling to keep weight and appetite down) is so much worse.

It's often just a time issue. When I had a desk job, I could eat all day and similarly had to restrain myself. Now that I'm back in school full time, I only have a few tiny pockets of spare time during the day and I often have to use this time to study for exams, write lab reports, etc. By the time you realize you haven't eaten anything it's 5:00PM, so you grab some granola bars to get you through a quick workout...by the time you get home you're exhausted and just want to shower and go to sleep, since you're now less than 8 hours from having to wake up....yet you're 3000+ calories in the hole that you must get into your body before you can hit the pillow. Hey, I do it...but there's nothing enjoyable about eating 3000 calories in 30 minutes without drinking much...because if you do, your sleep is interrupted when nature calls.

[Womble619]

Why is noone laying the chit down on this guy? why are some of you saying your jelous as if you actually believe this guy is 146lbs and not gaining on 4300??

Mate you are not eating 4300.. end of.. start weighting food and counting accuratly.. I would be surprised if your eating over 3k cals at your light azz weight.

[libtolu]

I'm trying to do a little better than eat a diet that "won't kill me." To maximize health, the majority of the calories (e.g. 80-85%) should be coming from whole and minimally processed food. 20% processed food is fine. Tubs of ice cream and a bunch of chocolate candy, however, isn't part of the gameplan.

how many calories are you eating? Because i'm maintaining on 3000 and can happily eat 'Healthy', but the OP is 'struggling' to eat his calories and therefore eating more calorie dense food will help.

Also FYI pizza (depending on topings) along with ice cream actually has quite a lot of micros in it.

[michaels22]

You sigh when not gaining on 4300? Why not be excited? That's a great problem to have, in my opinion.

[Former300lber]

You sigh when not gaining on 4300? Why not be excited? That's a great problem to have, in my opinion.

It sounds fun right? and let me tell you.. It really is at the START, however after a month in, it loses it's appeal.

Brb cost $500.00 a month just for me
Brb Bloated 24/7
Brb Carb Coma's
Brb you MUST eat this amount of calorie's every day, or risk spinning wheels / LOSING
Brb become disgusted of food after a while.


It seems like a GOD SEND after a cut, but after 4 months of doing it, I can't wait to start eating less to cut weight because man, It really does become stupid.... Like I said, I Gotta eat 9 big mac's worth of food every fking day....

[DatMurse]

It sounds fun right? and let me tell you.. It really is at the START, however after a month in, it loses it's appeal.

Brb cost $500.00 a month just for me
Brb Bloated 24/7
Brb Carb Coma's
Brb you MUST eat this amount of calorie's every day, or risk spinning wheels / LOSING
Brb become disgusted of food after a while.


It seems like a GOD SEND after a cut, but after 4 months of doing it, I can't wait to start eating less to cut weight because man, It really does become stupid.... Like I said, I Gotta eat 9 big mac's worth of food every fking day....

I am too much of a pussy to go on an all out bulk.

[Former300lber]

I am too much of a pussy to go on an all out bulk.

I've gone from 177-187 in the last 4 month's on an average of 5100 calories... that's INCLUDING the initial water weight, food weight etc.. I went from 177-183 in the first week, so I've only gained 4lbs in 4 months.... It's not really an all out bulk lol, I thought I was in the 190's, but scale say's otherwise the other day... ;(

Oh well, my strength is climbing that's all that matter's to me.

and yes, I track my calorie's, and yes I know how to do it properly :P

[demisecomes]

You sigh when not gaining on 4300? Why not be excited? That's a great problem to have, in my opinion.

IT IS NOT! The thing is from another's perspective being an ecto seems like such a great thing with obesity rates so rampant in America, but the problem with that is the other end of the spectrum seems to lose credibility. I could have been considered anorexic at 5'11 134-6ish lbs, but I realized how skinny I looked and bust my ass in the kitchen for a year trying to gain weight. Now I'm 167ish, but my goal was to get to 175 and cut. Among the problems:

-Bloating, indigestion, gas, feeling full, nausea, lethargy
-Bathroom multiple times of day (gross I know, but it gets inconvenient at times having to plan out your trips so nature doesn't call)
-Fat ass grocery bill, as Former300lber said, it runs into 400-500 if you want a diet that actually has a nice taste
-Larger cooking and prep times, cleaning dishes etc
-Having to hunt down foods that aren't going to clog your arteries or give you heart disease, but will still get you good gains.
-Not having enough time to get all that food in or having to inconvenience yourself at every hour to get a meal in
-If you skip a meal or two, kiss your gains goodbye. With meals at 1000cals per skipping one can really hinder gains.
-Needing to cook all your food in batches, or make meals that taste good by yourself
-Having to get groceries more frequently so you don't run out of food
-Having to deal with food allergies etc. (at such large quantities, you'll notice if a particular food doesn't sit well with your stomach)
-Mental drudgery having to eat such large amounts of food day in and out
-Disappointment when you see that you are working so hard and the scale is not moving
etc etc. If you still don't believe me, give it a go for a month or two straight and see if you still feel the same.


And for all you saying pizza, ice cream etc, I've eaten whole pizzas and up to 3 mcdoubles, 2 tacos at taco bell by myself, but I find I don't make any real gains with junk food. After all the end goal is muscle right?

I can tell you as a traceur/freerunner, mixed martial artist, gymnast, that the level of dedication it takes on the nutrition side can be just as grueling as it is when you're trying to drill a 5-minute horse stance or one-arm pushups or 9ft drops for an hour. I really have a new respect for bodybuilding after this and I can't imagine how much more dedication it would take trying to figure out a proper roid cycle and everything.

[MikeK46]

how many calories are you eating? Because i'm maintaining on 3000 and can happily eat 'Healthy', but the OP is 'struggling' to eat his calories and therefore eating more calorie dense food will help.

Also FYI pizza (depending on topings) along with ice cream actually has quite a lot of micros in it.

The hard part isn't eating the calories, it's finding the time to eat when your schedule is packed. I'm eating anywhere from 2700 on low activity days to 4000+ on high activity days.

[libtolu]

The hard part isn't eating the calories, it's finding the time to eat when your schedule is packed. I'm eating anywhere from 2700 on low activity days to 4000+ on high activity days.

If? or just eat huge meals. Even on 3k cals my first meal is usually around 1800-2400 cals and then i have the rest in a second meal. Eating twice a day is just more convienient

[MrBillson]

If? or just eat huge meals. Even on 3k cals my first meal is usually around 1800-2400 cals and then i have the rest in a second meal. Eating twice a day is just more convienient

4000+ cals in 2 meals while meeting protein, fibre and micro goals?

No thanks.

I use IF on a cut, no way I could slam those kinds of cals in a single meal, especially with fibre in the mix.

[AlwaysTryin]

It sounds fun right? and let me tell you.. It really is at the START, however after a month in, it loses it's appeal.

Brb cost $500.00 a month just for me
Brb Bloated 24/7
Brb Carb Coma's
Brb you MUST eat this amount of calorie's every day, or risk spinning wheels / LOSING
Brb become disgusted of food after a while.


It seems like a GOD SEND after a cut, but after 4 months of doing it, I can't wait to start eating less to cut weight because man, It really does become stupid.... Like I said, I Gotta eat 9 big mac's worth of food every fking day....

It would be a God send having a high TDEE without exercise

[Nhayes91]

I'm going to say you're miscounting calories, weigh everything with a food scale to the gram. Drink lots of milk throughout the day, pour olive oil on everything, eat tons of pizza and fast food. I don't know how someone couldn't gain weight unless you truly do have a medical issue.

[libtolu]

4000+ cals in 2 meals while meeting protein, fibre and micro goals?

No thanks.

I use IF on a cut, no way I could slam those kinds of cals in a single meal, especially with fibre in the mix.

True i have occassionally hit 50g fibre in a meal, the after effect were not pleasant. However i try to keep my fiber around 30g a day now so i have no problem getting the majority in one meal.

[MrBillson]

True i have occassionally hit 50g fibre in a meal, the after effect were not pleasant. However i try to keep my fiber around 30g a day now so i have no problem getting the majority in one meal.

Yeah, I eat a lot of veg though so a 2000cal meal would be very filling.

[respawn]

See what the Dr says. ask him to check for celiac disease as well. Friend of mine has that and found it next to impossible to gain weight. Cut out all Gluten foods and is now gaining weight. just one opinion.

[MikeK46]

If? or just eat huge meals. Even on 3k cals my first meal is usually around 1800-2400 cals and then i have the rest in a second meal. Eating twice a day is just more convienient

Yes, sometimes I end up having to eat 2000+ calories immediately before climbing into bed. It's not pleasant.

[ErikTheElectric]

I'm jealous lol.

Unless you're actually at that point, no you wouldn't be jealous.

[12baird12]

My suggestion is to measure and log everything you eat in a week. From your post I can tell you either are not eating this everyday or you are miss calculating something.

You might find you're getting 4k calories one day but the next day you're only getting 2k or 3k. Make sure to keep things consistent, because if you are telling the truth you would not be losing weight.

-Find your TDEE
-Buy a scale and weigh/measure your food.
-Log everything for 1 week doing nothing different than what you normally do.
-Adjust your intake according to your results from the 1 week log.
-Log a second week with adjusted numbers. STAY CONSTANT!
-See how you feel after that week.

Remember no matter how much you eat today you can never feed yourself yesterday.

If you log everything and you're getting 4k calories and still losing weight then, like others said, see a doctor.