Why are you discussing powerlifters in the context of a purely bodybuilding discussion? Even if we consider your irrelevant point, what powerlifter has done the lifts that Ronnie has done at 270 sub 5% bodyfat? I'm making a point this new years to expose all jackassses on the forum
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12-31-2012, 05:10 PM #91500lb deadlift crew
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01-01-2013, 03:46 AM #92
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01-01-2013, 10:25 AM #97
You don't think weight numbers matter at all for bodybuilders? If that's the case, why do pro's train extremely heavy, e.g. ronnie 800lb deadlift, branch 405lb inclines, evan 585lb deadlifts? If weight doesn't mean "jack ****" then surely pros would train with light weights to reduce the chance of injury. You might want to reexamine your weight lifting philosophy.
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01-01-2013, 10:35 AM #98
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01-01-2013, 11:22 AM #103
Ok man, you can go ahead and believe that weight isn't a factor in determining workout intensity. I'm pretty sure if you ask most people what their most "intense" training day is, they are going to say deadlift or squat day and not days where they do forearm curls and calf raises. And I'm also pretty sure that the reason they will say squats or deadlifts is because of the weight being used.
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01-01-2013, 11:31 AM #104
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01-01-2013, 03:32 PM #111
This is a ridicuous post from a well-known Phil-freak. Ronnie trying to stay relevant? Give me a break.
You make it sound like Kai and Phil are training bare minimum just to beat the weak lineup we have right now. Unfortunately we have pictures and videos of other guys to still compare them to. I never thought of bodybuilding from your perspective I guess. Since you are responsible for your own physique, and take 100% of the credit or blame for winning or losing unlike most other sports, it'd be nice to think even Phil or Kai would want to aim a little higher than just to "win shows in this era". The goal is to not only win now but be the GOAT imo. Once you get to Phil or Kai's level, why wouldn't you strive for that?This sport is called bodybuilding and if we're not building our bodies, what is there to see? Shucks, you want to see some small symmetrical guys, then turn on the TV and watch Survivor or Fear Factor. -Ronnie Coleman
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01-01-2013, 04:05 PM #112
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01-01-2013, 04:59 PM #114
I don't think he is denying at all the importance of lifting heavier, what he is saying is that just because someone lifts heavier weights does not mean they are working any more intensely than someone using lighter weights. Intensity comes down to how hard the athlete pushes themselves, going to failure, resting less, forced reps and so on.
For example I am just as exhausted if I do reps of 25 squats with a lighter weight than if I do reps with 8 at a heavier weight.
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01-01-2013, 05:10 PM #115
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01-01-2013, 06:02 PM #116
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01-01-2013, 06:17 PM #117
lets be real tho, hes damn happy and so are we that he trained that way because it made him the best, he went down hill fast but at least the world got to experience ronnie coleman for what he could be instead of just "really good" and "consistent"
guys like dexter jackson who always compete and always come in looking good are great, but ronnie was the king no matter what he looks like now.
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