Hi guys, I'm 18, 195 lbs and 22% body fat. I have just got into bodybuilding and am going to be starting within the next week or two. I have decided to start with a cut to get my body fat down under 15% and then I'll give bulking a try. I hope to get my BF down to 15% in about 4 months time.
I've spent a lot of time reading up on nutrient and diet and apparently for cutting you need to be getting close to 1.5 grams of protein per lean body mass, which means that I'd be consuming about 230 grams of protein per day. Isn't that near impossible to do, especially since you're wanting to keep your calories under maintenance? Unless you take protein shakes, in which case, what do you recommend and what is the best time to gulp it down, right after a workout?
PS: I'm going to be doing All Pro's beginner routine. Would you recommend it?
Thanks guys
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10-27-2012, 10:57 PM #1
How the hell do you eat that much protein each day?
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10-27-2012, 11:01 PM #2
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10-27-2012, 11:07 PM #3
I eat around 240g or more of protein. Easy: egg whites, milk, chicken breast (the most), salmon, tuna... Every 100g chicken breast contains around 20-25g protein. Every 100g tuna has 26g protein. Just add these to your daily carb and fat intakes and you'll get to that number. (For example, rice also has proteins, so also make sure you count those)
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10-27-2012, 11:52 PM #4
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10-28-2012, 12:15 AM #7
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10-28-2012, 12:16 AM #8
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10-28-2012, 01:17 AM #9
Thank you, you guys rock!
Just one last thing about the shakes, I read somewhere that certain types don't get absorbed into the body as well as others do. Is there any type of shake I should avoid?
The 10 commandments for cutting on this site say that "To be accurate you need a protein blend. In my opinion the perfect blend for someone who is cutting, post-workout or otherwise, is a mix of 70% micellar casein and 30% of a whey protein with a high Biological value like ion-exchange or cross flow micro-filtration whey. 50 mg in some water or a 2 cups of skim milk will do just fine". What does this mean?
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10-28-2012, 01:33 AM #10
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10-28-2012, 02:17 AM #13
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10-28-2012, 02:22 AM #14
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10-28-2012, 03:48 AM #15
Get some whey/casein, have 1/1.5 scoops whey protein post workout which will yield ~30-35g and another 1 scoop casein before bed which will total over 50-60g protein from supps alone. Remember this is only necessary if you can't get enough protein through your daily diet. Try and eat chicken, tuna, low fat milk, eggs, baked beans etc, it's really easy to get enough protein imo.
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10-28-2012, 04:30 AM #16
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10-28-2012, 05:49 AM #17
Thanks for the advice guys, I found a supp shop near my home and will get additional info from there. I'll probably be having a shake before and a shake after each workout just because it's a fast and high source of protein.
Instead of starting a new thread I thought that I'd just ask in here. Turns out I measured wrong, I'm not 22% BF, I'm closer to 27%. Yikes. So I think that I definitely need a cut before I even think about bulking. Only thing is, some people suggest weight lifting while others suggest pure cardio. Which is better? Right now I'm thinking about doing the All Pro Simple Beginners Routine since supposedly it can be used for cutting and bulking. Is this a good idea? Or should I just cardio 60 mins a day, 3 times a week?
Thank you
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10-28-2012, 06:02 AM #18
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10-28-2012, 06:12 AM #19
You want to do a routine that uses low volume(not alot of sets) and lift heavy i.e. about 75-85% of you 1RM usually closer to 80%. Also get an app called Nutritionist if you have an iphone or ipod touch. I lost 25 lb. with it and it will really help your diet.
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10-28-2012, 06:29 AM #20
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10-28-2012, 06:53 AM #21
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10-28-2012, 05:21 PM #22
I'm 27% BF. I want to be under 20%, preferably closer to 15% and then I'll start bulking. I definitely want to be in this for the long haul, maybe not a competitor or anything but for sure I want BB to be a life-long committment. With that in mind, would starting strength be a better idea than All Pro's Beginner Routine? And can starting strength be used for cutting as well?
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10-28-2012, 06:25 PM #23
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10-28-2012, 06:36 PM #24
Starting strength is probably the better program. If you want to speed things up you should definitely start Doug HIIT cardio and circuit training is also so much better for cutting. Definitely strive for 5-6 meals per day to reach your protein target. Do not use to many protein shakes per day or else this could result in damaging your kidneys and other things that aren't worth it. Tofu is a great source of protein if your vegetarian. Everyone is different so you might have to play around with things before you find the diet and routine that fits you. Hope this helps and don't give up.
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10-28-2012, 06:52 PM #26
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You will lose fat quicker if you lift weights 3 or 4 times a week and cardio on your off days. Check out kris gethins 12 week daily trainer on here. People seem to get great results and it helps guide you on what to do if you are new to this. As far as protein you can get it in your eggs and shakes. I like to take a shake right when I wake up before my breakfast to get everything going and then one before and after a workout. You can take a casein shake at night if you can afford casein and whey proteins. Thats 100 grams alone in protein
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10-28-2012, 06:57 PM #27
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10-28-2012, 10:58 PM #28
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10-29-2012, 10:05 AM #29
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10-29-2012, 10:11 AM #30
Try 1 shake a day. You will burn yourself out by taking 2 in one day. They start to get nasty after a while, imo. You can take them whenever you want, doesnt matter the time of day. It could be right after your workout, before, or even while your're taking a dump. But if you like the taste of protein shakes, go ahead and take two, its up to you. Also, try and get most of your protein from whole foods like chicken, tuna, salmon, beef, tofu, milk, eggs, etc...
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